Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105632) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105631) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105627) said:
how good would AD to storm and JAC to tigers happy days with that if true

The chances of that happening are 48 trillion to 1.

Can I have 10 cents on that

Sorry $1000 minimum bet
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105639) said:
we have to more money that souths to spend we could offer 500k to JAC hell we were going to offer it to A Douehi

Souths can offer a team that has FG standard fullback and hooker....

We can offer a weakened starting 17 with holes in the most important positions.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105635) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105629) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Take Inglis and the Burgii out of that team and they win nothing.


Same could be said for Reynolds, Keary etc

For sure, but I’m saying that without Richo and Crowe Souths wouldn’t have won. Madge had really good, powerful and influential people around him. Here he’s got Pascoe. Bit of a step down in terms of influence.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Lets ditch the self congratulatory rhetoric about how responsible Maguire is being with contracts. Great post Tigerballs. You have posted what many of us are thinking now. Where are the fast backs?
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.


You just answered your own question....Madge 'coached' those players.

He did not recruit them.

Look at my post history and you will see I think he is a great coach.

Recruitment is not his strength.

Even at Wigan they took recruiting out of his hands.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105641) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105635) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105629) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Take Inglis and the Burgii out of that team and they win nothing.


Same could be said for Reynolds, Keary etc

For sure, but I’m saying that without Richo and Crowe Souths wouldn’t have won. Madge had really good, powerful and influential people around him. Here he’s got Pascoe. Bit of a step down in terms of influence.


Bingo.

100% right.

Great coach, but needs great people around him.

Pascoe is not Richo....Richo knows how to get deals done.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105641) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105635) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105629) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Take Inglis and the Burgii out of that team and they win nothing.


Same could be said for Reynolds, Keary etc

For sure, but I’m saying that without Richo and Crowe Souths wouldn’t have won. Madge had really good, powerful and influential people around him. Here he’s got Pascoe. Bit of a step down in terms of influence.


Yes, you’re right. My point is, and always has been, that all superstars start somewhere. Madge has a record of winning with nobodies who became stars. I believe he can identify early talent and get the best out of it. I’m optimistic this season not because we’ve signed a great bunch of superstars but because we have a super coach.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105647) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105641) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105635) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105629) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Take Inglis and the Burgii out of that team and they win nothing.


Same could be said for Reynolds, Keary etc

For sure, but I’m saying that without Richo and Crowe Souths wouldn’t have won. Madge had really good, powerful and influential people around him. Here he’s got Pascoe. Bit of a step down in terms of influence.


Yes, you’re right. My point is, and always has been, that all superstars start somewhere. Madge has a record of winning with nobodies who became stars. I believe he can identify early talent and get the best out of it. I’m optimistic this season not because we’ve signed a great bunch of superstars but because we have a super coach.

I think Madge is a good coach but a poor recruiter and I’ve seen nothing to change my view on that.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105653) said:
We haven't effectively use our celebrities. Souths have Crowe, we should have used Blue Wiggle

Yeah because doing the Hot Potato with Anthony Field is heaps better than dining with Rusty at Nana Glen.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105649) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105647) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105641) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105635) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105629) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105625) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105551) said:
@TigerTrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105544) said:
We have to applaud Madge. Souths want AD off their books. He simply isn’t going to play first grade. All clubs would expect them to at least contribute 100k for each year or they can have a 600k reserve grader


He wont play reggies, he will be their 14 and an excellent one.

I am a big Madge fan, but recruitment is his weakness.

Crowe and Richo recruited South stars.

Madge not budging so far has got us what? The weakest 1-5 in the comp. Not a single back added to last year's weak backline that lacked pace and strike, Fonua and Esan gone, Benji at 35 expected to play every week. No pace, no strike, no first string kicker.

Madge's rhetoric sounds nice, but reality is different.


Crowe and Richo signed Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, Madge coached a backline of juniors in Reynolds, Keary, Johnston, Gray, Av’au, etc. Players no-one had heard of before Madge got hold of them. How can you say recruitment is his weakness? Looking at his team at Souths, I’d say it’s his strength. He didn’t pay overs for any of those premiership winners.

Take Inglis and the Burgii out of that team and they win nothing.


Same could be said for Reynolds, Keary etc

For sure, but I’m saying that without Richo and Crowe Souths wouldn’t have won. Madge had really good, powerful and influential people around him. Here he’s got Pascoe. Bit of a step down in terms of influence.


Yes, you’re right. My point is, and always has been, that all superstars start somewhere. Madge has a record of winning with nobodies who became stars. I believe he can identify early talent and get the best out of it. I’m optimistic this season not because we’ve signed a great bunch of superstars but because we have a super coach.

I think Madge is a good coach but a poor recruiter and I’ve seen nothing to change my view on that.


I’ll put it another way, Richo and Crowe were at Souths almost ten years before Madge turned up, recruiting all that time for zero, Madge turns up and they win gold. I’m not saying Richo and Crowe can’t recruit and I’m not saying Madge is a miracle worker, but give the man some credit. Who says he is a poor recruiter except you and EH? I’ve never heard anyone else accuse him of that.
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105664) said:
I’ll even go so far as to say Souths recruiting is far worse since Madge left.

Ours has been abysmal since he arrived.

Although hes cleaned up a huge mess.

Can spin it however u want.
 
This chat is next level funny. We have constantly complained about over paying players. The forum has lost it more times then I can remember. Now we want to pay 500k this year, 600k next year for a dude that cant crack south's backline. Next level funny. For every one saying other teams will get ad, where are they they are free to negotiate as we are. Thats right nobody's biting on that kind of contract for someone so unproven.

Added to that u pay a mil for mitchel because he has done it all and proved himself on the biggest stages, ad for half his price hasnt cemented a first grade spot.

Now I like ad think his handy but im not paying him the same amount for him when i can get a.proven wrecker in by.
 
@Demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105666) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105664) said:
I’ll even go so far as to say Souths recruiting is far worse since Madge left.

Ours has been abysmal since he arrived.

Although hes cleaned up a huge mess.

Can spin it however u want.


Stefano, brilliant, Musgrove, great, Leilua, great, let’s see how Seyfarth and Talau go, could be great, Momo, good, let’s wait and see what else he has in store.
 
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105667) said:
This chat is next level funny. We have constantly complained about over paying players. The forum has lost it more times then I can remember. Now we want to pay 500k this year, 600k next year for a dude that cant crack south's backline. Next level funny. For every one saying other teams will get ad, where are they they are free to negotiate as we are. Thats right nobody's biting on that kind of contract for someone so unproven.

Added to that u pay a mil for mitchel because he has done it all and proved himself on the biggest stages, ad for half his price hasnt cemented a first grade spot.

Now I like ad think his handy but im not paying him the same amount for him when i can get a.proven wrecker in by.

Souths backline is stacked.
Like 1 of the best in the league.

Those gronks at LU said Goodwin is gonna head back to the UK cos he has no chance to make that backline with all the talent there.
 
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105667) said:
This chat is next level funny. We have constantly complained about over paying players. The forum has lost it more times then I can remember. Now we want to pay 500k this year, 600k next year for a dude that cant crack south's backline. Next level funny. For every one saying other teams will get ad, where are they they are free to negotiate as we are. Thats right nobody's biting on that kind of contract for someone so unproven.

Added to that u pay a mil for mitchel because he has done it all and proved himself on the biggest stages, ad for half his price hasnt cemented a first grade spot.

Now I like ad think his handy but im not paying him the same amount for him when i can get a.proven wrecker in by.

But he’s a cedar. Or something
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105668) said:
@Demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105666) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105664) said:
I’ll even go so far as to say Souths recruiting is far worse since Madge left.

Ours has been abysmal since he arrived.

Although hes cleaned up a huge mess.

Can spin it however u want.


Stefano, brilliant, Musgrove, great, Leilua, great, let’s see how Seyfarth and Talau go, could be great, Momo, good, let’s wait and see what else he has in store.

I ain't complaining.
Thats all solid.

Still need some work on our spine tho.
Thats where u spend the big bucks so why we scared to open the wallet?

Mbye + Reynolds on like 1.4m between em.
Shame.
 

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