Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tiger5150]

I'm not saying he is the best winger in the comp, far from it, and he has his weaknesses but i think he is better than most WTF'rs give him credit for. BY all accounts he is looking rippped and ready to go this ear.

Nofo has copped a lot of well deserved flak here for his defence but that seems to have improved. Has always been brave and tough near the line but his greatest contribution to this team has always been his tough dirty carries on kick returns and when we are pegged.

Ive been spending some time on the Raiders forum reading what they are saying about BJ and almost to a man they are very disappointed that he seems to be leaving and a common point raised is BJ's dirty carries to get the team back on the front foot.

 

[tigerbalm]

Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..


Not 'kept'......'used'.

Ie sent to reserve grade until a deal suited us. Moses spends a month in reserves, so what.::

Kept a trade chip. Like the Storm are doin....

I do not see how this stuff is so hard to comprehend.

Anyway....lets move on.

Your presuming the other Club or whatever remain keen..they could also move on...

Not being funny but so what? If matto wanted to have a sook, he can do that in RG. If he wants to make a career and be professional he will suck it up. Play his best to ensure that his next contract is what he thinks he deserves. Why is it up to Wests to pander to the whims of players?

I still dont see any upside to releasing Matto. None. People can say it was good for team harmony...rubbish. If you think every player at every clib gets along then your naive.

All it did was again show the club to be a soft touch. I'm a fan of the club and I fully expected LM to sign for 3 years on a front loaded contract, play a year for big $$$ and jump to souths for 2021 claiming some type of hardship. Melbourne are playing the JAC thing perfectly and to be honest, so are Parra (vomit). Why let a player leave if it does not directly add to the overall improvement of the team and club? Add to that, we had him on a pittance of his worth which was a risk on West's side but it paid off. We let a 600+k player who was on contract walk for 350. Still waiting on Pascoe's upside to this?

 

[TrueTiger]

I'm not saying he is the best winger in the comp, far from it, and he has his weaknesses but i think he is better than most WTF'rs give him credit for. BY all accounts he is looking rippped and ready to go this ear.


Nofo has copped a lot of well deserved flak here for his defence but that seems to have improved. Has always been brave and tough near the line but his greatest contribution to this team has always been his tough dirty carries on kick returns and when we are pegged.

Ive been spending some time on the Raiders forum reading what they are saying about BJ and almost to a man they are very disappointed that he seems to be leaving and a common point raised is BJ's dirty carries to get the team back on the front foot.

If we get BJ,Ithink he will end up being an asset to us,Im sure Madge will tidy up his faults and we could see a big change in his game for the better....especially if he plays with his brother on the same side of the park,they could be very,very dangerous...just my thoughts guys...

 

[Tiger5150]

Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..


Not 'kept'......'used'.

Ie sent to reserve grade until a deal suited us. Moses spends a month in reserves, so what.::

Kept a trade chip. Like the Storm are doin....

I do not see how this stuff is so hard to comprehend.

Anyway....lets move on.

Your presuming the other Club or whatever remain keen..they could also move on...

Not being funny but so what? If matto wanted to have a sook, he can do that in RG. If he wants to make a career and be professional he will suck it up. Play his best to ensure that his next contract is what he thinks he deserves. Why is it up to Wests to pander to the whims of players?

Thats fine for Sundays but for 4 or 5 other days he has to train with the rest of the squad and thats not a positive environment.

I still dont see any upside to releasing Matto. None. People can say it was good for team harmony...rubbish. If you think every player at every clib gets along then your naive.


Of course every player at every club doesnt get along, but successful clubs haev good cultures and weed out players that are poisonous to it. Roosters & Melbourne the best at it. IMO this was an issue at the Tigers from around 2013 - 2016.

Despite it being true that not everyone gets along, I have never seen a reaction from teammates like the way the Tigers players reacted to Matterson leaving last year. I have never seen a squad openly mock a leaving player like that. IMO there is a LOT more behind the scenes with this one.

 

[Moh]

So, next week everything should start happening.

 

[Cairnstigers]

We need a signing
This forum is about to explode
We are in the early stages of a civil war

The fact is if we were a constant top 4 team we wouldn't be arguing with each other
This is what pressure does to people

Settle down everyone

Tomorrow is a new day
There are far more concerning things in people's lives then missing out on a signing
Things like health
I could tell you some life experiences that test your resolve and that really test a persons will
I don't go into that
But I can tell you that things get better
Eventually

 

[Jimmy]

I’ll even go so far as to say Souths recruiting is far worse since Madge left.

Ours has been abysmal since he arrived.

Although hes cleaned up a huge mess.

Can spin it however u want.


Stefano, brilliant, Musgrove, great, Leilua, great, let’s see how Seyfarth and Talau go, could be great, Momo, good, let’s wait and see what else he has in store.

I ain't complaining.
Thats all solid.

Still need some work on our spine tho.
Thats where u spend the big bucks so why we scared to open the wallet?

Mbye + Reynolds on like 1.4m between em.
Shame.

Our cap is stuffed....our spine on value should be Mbye, JR, Brooks, liddle....but nooooo, one can’t find a position and two are injuries all the time...we are lucky benji is playing on for nothing or else we’d be stuffed...Mbye must play in the spine cap wise imo....JR we have to grin and bare which leads to us only having one spine spot (money wise) left in our cap...if liddle is on a smaller contract

 

[Ponyo]

It was top speed. Which i completely understand isn't always maintainable but the comment about his control backs that he can do it at will.

40 yrd stop speed. Nofa has really good running form but can't maintain it over longer distances, he packs a lot of muscle and is more of an explosive sprinter, his data charts would be up, down, up, up spikes & rests

Wingers should be able to finish over 100metres and that is the issue with Nofoaluma.

He was put over the sideline by Fifita in a game against Cronulla at their home ground. It was embarrassing because he had a clearn 65m run to the try line which was open.

I can't remember that play action.off the top of my head to be honest but with due respect, that's an isolated incident you've mentioned. It doesn't factor in both Nofa or Fifita's output throughout the game or in the lead up to the play. As mentioned earlier he's clocked up the 3rd fastest time in the NRL last year - in the 65th minute too mind you which is pretty impressive. He's an explosive athlete, he does things others can't do. He may not run full lengths of the field but he'll run in 60-80 metre tries & break through the line, and put in little dinks into the in goal area & score acrobatic tries. He has his faults, who doesn't. I'm sure he's working on his speed/fitness and his defence/connection with his new teamates -he's a real goer & athlete Nofoaluma

 

[yeahcaz]

What has anything here have to do with signings? Just dribble over peoples speed and positions for pages.

 

[yeahcaz]

What has anything here have to do with signings? Just dribble over peoples speed and positions for pages.

In real SIGNING AND RUMOURS NEWS Douehi has been granted leave from Souths training, surely there is a move imminent

 

[Harvey]

My biggest concern is that BJ turns up, doesn’t buy into the culture and training regime, and ends up becoming a problem child.

If the club stays strong to pul him into line, his younger brother gets put offside. We are then carrying 2 players that don’t want to make the effort.

 

[Goldust]

It was top speed. Which i completely understand isn't always maintainable but the comment about his control backs that he can do it at will.

40 yrd stop speed. Nofa has really good running form but can't maintain it over longer distances, he packs a lot of muscle and is more of an explosive sprinter, his data charts would be up, down, up, up spikes & rests

Wingers should be able to finish over 100metres and that is the issue with Nofoaluma.

He was put over the sideline by Fifita in a game against Cronulla at their home ground. It was embarrassing because he had a clearn 65m run to the try line which was open.

I can't remember that play action.off the top of my head to be honest but with due respect, that's an isolated incident you've mentioned. It doesn't factor in both Nofa or Fifita's output throughout the game or in the lead up to the play. As mentioned earlier he's clocked up the 3rd fastest time in the NRL last year - in the 65th minute too mind you which is pretty impressive. He's an explosive athlete, he does things others can't do. He may not run full lengths of the field but he'll run in 60-80 metre tries & break through the line, and put in little dinks into the in goal area & score acrobatic tries. He has his faults, who doesn't. I'm sure he's working on his speed/fitness and his defence/connection with his new teamates -he's a real goer & athlete Nofoaluma

Facts! First one picked imo.
Been our best meter eater for years

 

[Harvey]

We need a signing
This forum is about to explode
We are in the early stages of a civil war

The fact is if we were a constant top 4 team we wouldn't be arguing with each other
This is what pressure does to people

Settle down everyone

Tomorrow is a new day
There are far more concerning things in people's lives then missing out on a signing
Things like health
I could tell you some life experiences that test your resolve and that really test a persons will
I don't go into that
But I can tell you that things get better
Eventually

Would only take a phone call to Lichaa to reunite the forum.

 

[tigerbalm]

Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..


Not 'kept'......'used'.

Ie sent to reserve grade until a deal suited us. Moses spends a month in reserves, so what.::

Kept a trade chip. Like the Storm are doin....

I do not see how this stuff is so hard to comprehend.

Anyway....lets move on.

Your presuming the other Club or whatever remain keen..they could also move on...

Not being funny but so what? If matto wanted to have a sook, he can do that in RG. If he wants to make a career and be professional he will suck it up. Play his best to ensure that his next contract is what he thinks he deserves. Why is it up to Wests to pander to the whims of players?


Thats fine for Sundays but for 4 or 5 other days he has to train with the rest of the squad and thats not a positive environment.

I still dont see any upside to releasing Matto. None. People can say it was good for team harmony...rubbish. If you think every player at every clib gets along then your naive.


Of course every player at every club doesnt get along, but successful clubs haev good cultures and weed out players that are poisonous to it. Roosters & Melbourne the best at it. IMO this was an issue at the Tigers from around 2013 - 2016.

Despite it being true that not everyone gets along, I have never seen a reaction from teammates like the way the Tigers players reacted to Matterson leaving last year. I have never seen a squad openly mock a leaving player like that. IMO there is a LOT more behind the scenes with this one.

I get your point. but again, west's had the upper hand. If Matto wanted to be a sook he can languish in RG. The hit on the cap was not huge (and we cant spend it anyways) so if they had sat on him for a bit before releasing they may have been able to use him to our benefit. There's no way that Matto would of spent a year in RG. All that would of happened is either Wests have a bargaining chip for future player swap etc.. or Matto plays out a year at Wests. He's not going to dog it and if he does he's back in RG.

If this Stefano kid starts causing issues with training, do you think parra will hand him over? also, the talk of Matto falling out happened after he pushed for more money / new club. We all turned on him aswell. prior to that he was the golden child. Dont re write history, the players (like us) turned when it was clear he was leaving the club. Not prior.

 

[Newtown]

What has anything here have to do with signings? Just dribble over peoples speed and positions for pages.

In real SIGNING AND RUMOURS NEWS Douehi has been granted leave from Souths training, surely there is a move imminent

I hope he hasn't gone on holidays like Mitchell did.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Easy to hate parra
But we messed by letting Matterson and Moses go without any sort of compensation
Lucky we were able to land LL
I really hope stefano joins us but in 2021

We really made a mess of the Matterson saga. We must have been in talks with Utoikamanu while the matterson mess was happening. Why didn't we just seal the deal and tell the slime we would release matterson when they release Stefano. We may have had to pay matterson 1 month of his contract but would have had the young kid for this year.

Are you worry worts going to rehash this every couple of weeks for the next 12 months. ?

No worry on my part - just an observation of maybe we stuffed up and should have held matterson until the Uto... deal was done and then leveraged mattersons release to get a release for Uto. Not sure why you think that is being a worry wort.

It makes sense, but surely WT management would've thought of that at the time....surely?

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

My biggest concern is that BJ turns up, doesn’t buy into the culture and training regime, and ends up becoming a problem child.

If the club stays strong to pul him into line, his younger brother gets put offside. We are then carrying 2 players that don’t want to make the effort.

Stuart trains his team hard like Madge.
BJ will be fine.

The bigger concern is coming with 50 days to go.
If both BJ and AD joined thats alot of change & gel work required - our season start would be surprising if we started well.

 

[Tiger5150]

It was top speed. Which i completely understand isn't always maintainable but the comment about his control backs that he can do it at will.

40 yrd stop speed. Nofa has really good running form but can't maintain it over longer distances, he packs a lot of muscle and is more of an explosive sprinter, his data charts would be up, down, up, up spikes & rests

Wingers should be able to finish over 100metres and that is the issue with Nofoaluma.

He was put over the sideline by Fifita in a game against Cronulla at their home ground. It was embarrassing because he had a clearn 65m run to the try line which was open.

I can't remember that play action.off the top of my head to be honest but with due respect, that's an isolated incident you've mentioned. It doesn't factor in both Nofa or Fifita's output throughout the game or in the lead up to the play. As mentioned earlier he's clocked up the 3rd fastest time in the NRL last year - in the 65th minute too mind you which is pretty impressive. He's an explosive athlete, he does things others can't do. He may not run full lengths of the field but he'll run in 60-80 metre tries & break through the line, and put in little dinks into the in goal area & score acrobatic tries. He has his faults, who doesn't. I'm sure he's working on his speed/fitness and his defence/connection with his new teamates -he's a real goer & athlete Nofoaluma


Facts! First one picked imo.
Been our best meter eater for years

it is one of the reasons I rate Madge as a coach. Early last year Madge had Nofo in reggies and I agreed with it. To Nofo's credit he didnt sulk and got on with it and got as second chance (from memory due to injury) and Madge saw what he needed and kept him there. IMO Nofo showed maturity last year that is encouraging.

he had a good couple of early years, was up for contract at a good time (same time as the "big 4") and got a very good deal. Shows maturity that he was able to buy into the way Madge wanted him to play and is a big contributor to the team which is all you can ask for from a winger.

Shame he is such a shortarse with the brain dead new rules coming in.

 

[Tiger5150]

Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..


Not 'kept'......'used'.

Ie sent to reserve grade until a deal suited us. Moses spends a month in reserves, so what.::

Kept a trade chip. Like the Storm are doin....

I do not see how this stuff is so hard to comprehend.

Anyway....lets move on.

Your presuming the other Club or whatever remain keen..they could also move on...

Not being funny but so what? If matto wanted to have a sook, he can do that in RG. If he wants to make a career and be professional he will suck it up. Play his best to ensure that his next contract is what he thinks he deserves. Why is it up to Wests to pander to the whims of players?


Thats fine for Sundays but for 4 or 5 other days he has to train with the rest of the squad and thats not a positive environment.

I still dont see any upside to releasing Matto. None. People can say it was good for team harmony...rubbish. If you think every player at every clib gets along then your naive.


Of course every player at every club doesnt get along, but successful clubs haev good cultures and weed out players that are poisonous to it. Roosters & Melbourne the best at it. IMO this was an issue at the Tigers from around 2013 - 2016.

Despite it being true that not everyone gets along, I have never seen a reaction from teammates like the way the Tigers players reacted to Matterson leaving last year. I have never seen a squad openly mock a leaving player like that. IMO there is a LOT more behind the scenes with this one.

>
If this Stefano kid starts causing issues with training, do you think parra will hand him over?

The fact that Stefano isnt causing issues with training is exactly why we want him. He is a man albeit in a kids body.

>also, the talk of Matto falling out happened after he pushed for more money / new club. We all turned on him aswell. prior to that he was the golden child. ***Dont re write history***, the players (like us) turned when it was clear he was leaving the club. Not prior.

Dont re-write history?

Aaron Woods, James Tedesco, Martin Tapau, Andrew Fafita...for gods sake even that scum bag Mitchell Moses left the Tigers for a new club and more money. THAT is history. Did the playing squad publicly ridicule any of them? Players are different to fans, its their job and they understand the business side of it. Players dont ridicule a player for leaving for more money, it happens 20-30 times a year and they all probably hope they get the opportunity. Matterson was publicly ridiculed by his teammates. Ive never seen that before. There has to be more to it that we know.

 

[Goldust]

It was top speed. Which i completely understand isn't always maintainable but the comment about his control backs that he can do it at will.

40 yrd stop speed. Nofa has really good running form but can't maintain it over longer distances, he packs a lot of muscle and is more of an explosive sprinter, his data charts would be up, down, up, up spikes & rests

Wingers should be able to finish over 100metres and that is the issue with Nofoaluma.

He was put over the sideline by Fifita in a game against Cronulla at their home ground. It was embarrassing because he had a clearn 65m run to the try line which was open.

I can't remember that play action.off the top of my head to be honest but with due respect, that's an isolated incident you've mentioned. It doesn't factor in both Nofa or Fifita's output throughout the game or in the lead up to the play. As mentioned earlier he's clocked up the 3rd fastest time in the NRL last year - in the 65th minute too mind you which is pretty impressive. He's an explosive athlete, he does things others can't do. He may not run full lengths of the field but he'll run in 60-80 metre tries & break through the line, and put in little dinks into the in goal area & score acrobatic tries. He has his faults, who doesn't. I'm sure he's working on his speed/fitness and his defence/connection with his new teamates -he's a real goer & athlete Nofoaluma


Facts! First one picked imo.
Been our best meter eater for years


it is one of the reasons I rate Madge as a coach. Early last year Madge had Nofo in reggies and I agreed with it. To Nofo's credit he didnt sulk and got on with it and got as second chance (from memory due to injury) and Madge saw what he needed and kept him there. IMO Nofo showed maturity last year that is encouraging.

he had a good couple of early years, was up for contract at a good time (same time as the "big 4") and got a very good deal. Shows maturity that he was able to buy into the way Madge wanted him to play and is a big contributor to the team which is all you can ask for from a winger.

Shame he is such a shortarse with the brain dead new rules coming in.

It’s a breath of fresh air in the modern game when a player doesn’t sook and just gets on with it

Yeah I’m a tad concerned about that rule,no doubt it will be the talking point of many controversial tries this season.