Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105969) said:
Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..

The only team Slimey tanked for was Wests Tigers because he was so easily allowed to.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105971) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105963) said:
None of the issues you mention could not have been handled. Matterson would have sooked…so what. Let him sit there and sook until we had a deal in place. Hung around like a bad smell? So what. Off season, tons of time to wait and make a deal. If we kept him a month longer we could have dealt him for Stefano…or part of a JAC deal…an Origin level player on 450 would not have been hard to move.

Revisit these comments in light of what just happened with Latrell and Roosters.

I think you underestimate how important team harmony and culture is, especially to a redeveloping club like Tigers, and how even mildly negative impacts can unravel a team.

Mitch Pearce pretended to root a dog once and the entire season for Easts was ruined. From a distance, Pearce was just being a fool and it was not related to any other player at a personal or public level, yet the team was absolutely and entirely derailed.

So Roosters could have held Latrell indefinitely whilst trying to use him as a bargaining chip. Roosters did not get a single thing in transfer for Latrell - he was not used as leverage in any deal favouring Roosters. Even to the ultimate point where Roosters both paid out his old manager AND released him with 2 months pay under his belt to their arch-nemesis. Roosters basically burned a tens and perhaps hundreds of thousands whilst Latrell went fishing in Taree.

And lo, 2 weeks later, their ready-made Latrell replacement does his ACL. Arguably, in hindsight, Roosters really could/should have held Latrell until a deal came up that was specifically in their favour. I mean, they are the Roosters, by many accounts they can do what they please.

Tigers avoided all that nonsense, all the media circus, by releasing Matto before the pre-season. And that's without even giving a moment's thought to the potential bargaining position wrt Stefano, about which we can only speculate.


All valid points mate....but there were def two ways of doing it. The club went your way....personally I would rather have gone the other route and used the disgruntled blokes as trade assets.

I respect your right to disagree.

Ultimately the empirical will dictate who was right. If we make the finals based on harmony and spirit, you will be right. I, believe it or not, hope you are right and I am wrong.

If we fail due to a lack of class, speed and X factor due to ( my opinion) poor recruitment and weak handling of disgruntled players, then I will be right.

Let's hope you ultimately are right on this one...
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105976) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105974) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105969) said:
Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..


Not 'kept'......'used'.

Ie sent to reserve grade until a deal suited us. Moses spends a month in reserves, so what.::

Kept a trade chip. Like the Storm are doin....

I do not see how this stuff is so hard to comprehend.

Anyway....lets move on.

Your presuming the other Club or whatever remain keen..they could also move on...


Given their age and talent levels, yes, I am presuming other clubs like Parramatta 'would' have remained interested in Slimey and Matterson.

Again, we can agree to disagree and it is too late now to find out.
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105975) said:
Douehi appears to have slipped by. Has BJ Leiluia been signed by Wests Tigers or is he another of the very long list that has slipped from Wests Tigers grasps?

Hopefully we pick up at least 1 of them
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105982) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105975) said:
Douehi appears to have slipped by. Has BJ Leiluia been signed by Wests Tigers or is he another of the very long list that has slipped from Wests Tigers grasps?

Hopefully we pick up at least 1 of them

I think they showed a clear pair of heels and outran us ...probably trying to get a restraining order as we speak lol
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105982) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105975) said:
Douehi appears to have slipped by. Has BJ Leiluia been signed by Wests Tigers or is he another of the very long list that has slipped from Wests Tigers grasps?

Hopefully we pick up at least 1 of them


If its only 1 I really hope its BJ. Not only do I think that he is the most proven of the two of them and a true specialist but at least on the surface of it, BJ seems to be be keen to come and the negotiations seem to have been positive without drama.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105987) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105982) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105975) said:
Douehi appears to have slipped by. Has BJ Leiluia been signed by Wests Tigers or is he another of the very long list that has slipped from Wests Tigers grasps?

Hopefully we pick up at least 1 of them


If its only 1 I really hope its BJ. Not only do I think that he is the most proven of the two of them and a true specialist but at least on the surface of it, BJ seems to be be keen to come and the negotiations seem to have been positive without drama.

And it sounds like raiders are chipping in a fair bit witch is great
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105989) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105987) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105982) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105975) said:
Douehi appears to have slipped by. Has BJ Leiluia been signed by Wests Tigers or is he another of the very long list that has slipped from Wests Tigers grasps?

Hopefully we pick up at least 1 of them


If its only 1 I really hope its BJ. Not only do I think that he is the most proven of the two of them and a true specialist but at least on the surface of it, BJ seems to be be keen to come and the negotiations seem to have been positive without drama.

And it sounds like raiders are chipping in a fair bit witch is great


Nothing but upside. Potentially a true win/win.
 
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

We , the clubs powers that are going to lead us to the promised land according to many let Matterson look at other options
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105969) said:
Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..

Sit them out. Don’t give them up for nothing. The money you spent on them sitting you could get back in a transfer fee or player compensation. Tigers could of signed LL without giving up matterson at the time
 
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

Wests Tigers have become the weak sitting ducks for some NRL clubs.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105995) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

We , the clubs powers that are going to lead us to the promised land according to many let Matterson look at other options

Matterson HAD no options. Realised only 1 man recruits full-time sooks. His name is Brad.
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105998) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

Wests Tigers have become the weak sitting ducks for some NRL clubs.

I LOVE your posts mate, always considered; respectful and passionate - disagree here entirely!
 
@Tigerboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106000) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105998) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

Wests Tigers have become the weak sitting ducks for some NRL clubs.

I LOVE your posts mate, always considered; respectful and passionate - disagree here entirely!

I respect your opinion. It's a forum for everyone's views.
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105998) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

Wests Tigers have become the weak sitting ducks for some NRL clubs.

Yeah wondering who next seasons player of the year will be so they can get picked off as well
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106002) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105998) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105966) said:
But we all know officially we couldn’t have spoken to Stefano before 1st Nov, and given that he reportedly signed at the end of November, there’s no facts to indicate that we spoke to him before we released Matto.

And Parra were not allowed to talk to Matterson before November 1 2020, yet he was gone before November 1 2019, please

Wests Tigers have become the weak sitting ducks for some NRL clubs.

Yeah wondering who next seasons player of the year will be so they can get picked off as well

Brooks was player of the year .
Matterson was the forums player of the year ?
 
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105997) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105969) said:
Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..

Sit them out. Don’t give them up for nothing. The money you spent on them sitting you could get back in a transfer fee or player compensation. Tigers could of signed LL without giving up matterson at the time

There are transfer fees in the NRL now..when did this happen...?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105924) said:
Guys, I think that Doueihi may always have been going to Easts.

There was a poster either here or LU, I cant remember note that they had bumped into Doueihi at Fox Entertainment Quarter a week or so ago. What would Doueihi have been doing at EQ? Roosters head office is at EQ.

That was me. He was dressed very casually. I highly doubt he was heading to a meeting with Roosters officials. More likely going to lunch or a movie.
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106005) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105997) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1105969) said:
Wait a second..we should have kept a bloke who obviously tanked..Slimey.....as well as a bloke who had tanking potential...good solid base to build right there..

Sit them out. Don’t give them up for nothing. The money you spent on them sitting you could get back in a transfer fee or player compensation. Tigers could of signed LL without giving up matterson at the time

There are transfer fees in the NRL now..when did this happen...?

Yeah .:.it’s a bit like a dodgy deal on Gumtree.
“Cash my way”
 

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