Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Guest]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

Indeed it is, well said.

 

[Don Kershane]

this thread is one of the lowest IQ threads I have ever seen

We need to co opt some of the hackers from an unnamed foreign entity to find some reliable information- although the rorters probably have more sophisticated anti hacking programs than ASIO.

 

[finnzo]

I think we need to split the thread in two suggested signings and signings rumours

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

Indeed it is, well said.

Brooks would be able to game manage the Storm, Broncos, Roosters, Canterbury, Sharks, Dragons and a few other teams.

 

[Tcat]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It's pretty obvious that you need strength across the field, in all positions and facets of the game if you want to be a long term success. We have a always been a team with too many liabilities vs strengths and genuine talent. We have also been a team that either relies on attack or defence and not both. Some say defence wins games and I agree, but you still need to be able to attack. Club culture is also an important thing that not only attracts players, but determines how the team plays during adversity.

Let's hope Madge can fix most of these things and get us off the joke/sympathy list.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

we need a game managing halfback think Johns Sterling Cronk Stuart even Prince etc all can manage a game and all had good running five eigths to think we dont is just keeping with our status quo.
At present Benji is that game managing 7 his passes are much imprived he can do that role this year. Brooks can run and it will take the pressure off him.
Next year have no idea we need a 7 not many out there but for this year Madge needs to try something different with Brooks

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Yeah I’m with Geo here.
Please go back and check the turning points in the last 2 games. Swap our halves around only! And convince me we win our last two games.

Wouldn't be that we're missing a big hard running centre and three forwards that are walk up starts in our 17.

 

[JC99]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

 

[Needaname]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Yeah I’m with Geo here.
Please go back and check the turning points in the last 2 games. Swap our halves around only! And convince me we win our last two games.

Wouldn't be that we're missing a big hard running centre and three forwards that are walk up starts in our 17.

I agree, that was kind of my point.
If the game goes exactly the same way and our forwards give away the penalties and drop the ball etc.
Does a different set of halves change the outcome?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Yeah I’m with Geo here.
Please go back and check the turning points in the last 2 games. Swap our halves around only! And convince me we win our last two games.

Wouldn't be that we're missing a big hard running centre and three forwards that are walk up starts in our 17.

I agree, that was kind of my point.
If the game goes exactly the same way and our forwards give away the penalties and drop the ball etc.
Does a different set of halves change the outcome?

I know it was your point, I am in agreement. Takes 13 men on a paddock to win a game. We're low on troops, our depth is thin and the inexperience and shortage of talent comes to the fore under those conditions.

Should see a much improved performance this weekend up front with the System and hopefully Twal and Talau back.

 

[gallagher]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

 

[JC99]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

I think they’re under estimating what having a world class game controlling player in your spine can do for your team but they aren’t wrong about their other points if your forwards don’t play well it’s gonna be difficult for any half to win.

 

[JD Tiger]

The childish name calling and non-subtle put-downs put aside, we do need a half (be it five-eighth or halfback) who can manage the game better. Organise the fifth tackle better, kick for the corners or for touch or for the in-goal better, actually making the goal. Someone who can reliably kick a field goal if needed. Someone who can set up a try when in the opposition in-goal through a deft kick or a nice pass. Someone who can lead the team.

No one is saying the whole team doesn't have to take responsibility for controlling the ball, and I'm not bagging Brooks here, but we need a player who can do those things to compliment Brooks. Brooks should be our great support halve, not our main halve.

 

[diedpretty]

Keep an eye on Charlie Staines playing for Penrith today, he’s a young talented back who I believe is available to talk to come November

He is quick and plays well.

Very quick. Still just a kid but he has skills, don’t know how likely he is to leave Penrith though. Can play anywhere in the backline including fullback

He is not a Panther junior but another good country player from Forbes.


Panthers group has bought so many small RSL and Leagues clubs, anything west of Kellyville is Penrith

My young bloke plays div 1 for Emu plains and at every game there’s always 2 Pamfers talent scouts with their clipboards ..
Massive nursery to scout from .

No doubt. My point is Bathurst, Wellington, Wagga Wagga etc, these places are all Pamfers nursery now too because of money poured into local clubs. These kids are brought from the bush into SG Ball

Exactly, in today’s 17 there were kids from Dubbo, Forbes, Parkes, Wellington, and more in the extended squad

Stupid part of all this is we could have based ourselves in Campbelltown years ago, poured the money into junior development in west and southwest NSW and had the same sort of programs in place. Instead for 20 years we have bumbled and fumble our way along as a club with no real home and even now have plonked ourselves down in the centre of Sydney forever. This club will always be playing catch up.

You know our owners may be called Wests, but they are based in Ashfield. Always have been.

They weren't always the sole owners - Campbelltown had a share but got done over nicely. No big deal - Wests Ashfield can just keep pumping money in to Balmain juniors while they ignore the Macarthur junior nursery.

To clarify doesn't the Balmain juniors also encompass a lot of the old Wests Magpies junior district? The quality coming out of this area and teams justifies the investment. This is no reflection on the Campbelltown Macarthur region but I recall posters expressing concern about what was happening out there. Are you able to confirm what the situation is out there now?

My post was just about Wests Ashfield and their inner city centric outlook. To be fair the Macarthur region juniors was a shambles up until 2019. The Wests Group now fund the junior league which is called Wests Tigers Macarthur Juniors. So since 2019 the club has shown that although they don't contribute financially they have created a pathway to WT. So the club is on the right path to strengthening its ties to the area - just remains to be seen how many juniors end up at WT.

https://weststigersjuniors.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Annual-Report-2019.FINAL_.pdf

 

[JC99]

The childish name calling and non-subtle put-downs put aside, we do need a half (be it five-eighth or halfback) who can manage the game better. Organise the fifth tackle better, kick for the corners or for touch or for the in-goal better, actually making the goal. Someone who can reliably kick a field goal if needed. Someone who can set up a try when in the opposition in-goal through a deft kick or a nice pass. Someone who can lead the team.

No one is saying the whole team doesn't have to take responsibility for controlling the ball, and I'm not bagging Brooks here, but we need a player who can do those things to compliment Brooks. Brooks should be our great support halve, not our main halve.

Aiden Sezer really wouldn’t be a bad signing to put in the 7. Clearly he benefited from playing behind a strong raiders pack but he really did control games for them along with Hodgson while they had a running 5/8 in Wighton just like we could have with brooks.

 

[diedpretty]

Herman Ese’Ese officially signed with Titans


and if they got Fafita, thats a core of a decent pack.

If they have signed Essesse , they have missed Fifita

I was thinking that too - time to go hard for TPJ.

 

[the_third]

Keep an eye on Charlie Staines playing for Penrith today, he’s a young talented back who I believe is available to talk to come November

He is quick and plays well.

Very quick. Still just a kid but he has skills, don’t know how likely he is to leave Penrith though. Can play anywhere in the backline including fullback

He is not a Panther junior but another good country player from Forbes.


Panthers group has bought so many small RSL and Leagues clubs, anything west of Kellyville is Penrith

My young bloke plays div 1 for Emu plains and at every game there’s always 2 Pamfers talent scouts with their clipboards ..
Massive nursery to scout from .

No doubt. My point is Bathurst, Wellington, Wagga Wagga etc, these places are all Pamfers nursery now too because of money poured into local clubs. These kids are brought from the bush into SG Ball

Exactly, in today’s 17 there were kids from Dubbo, Forbes, Parkes, Wellington, and more in the extended squad

Stupid part of all this is we could have based ourselves in Campbelltown years ago, poured the money into junior development in west and southwest NSW and had the same sort of programs in place. Instead for 20 years we have bumbled and fumble our way along as a club with no real home and even now have plonked ourselves down in the centre of Sydney forever. This club will always be playing catch up.

You know our owners may be called Wests, but they are based in Ashfield. Always have been.

They weren't always the sole owners - Campbelltown had a share but got done over nicely. No big deal - Wests Ashfield can just keep pumping money in to Balmain juniors while they ignore the Macarthur junior nursery.

To clarify doesn't the Balmain juniors also encompass a lot of the old Wests Magpies junior district? The quality coming out of this area and teams justifies the investment. This is no reflection on the Campbelltown Macarthur region but I recall posters expressing concern about what was happening out there. Are you able to confirm what the situation is out there now?

My post was just about Wests Ashfield and their inner city centric outlook. To be fair the Macarthur region juniors was a shambles up until 2019. The Wests Group now fund the junior league which is called Wests Tigers Macarthur Juniors. So since 2019 the club has shown that although they don't contribute financially they have created a pathway to WT. So the club is on the right path to strengthening its ties to the area - just remains to be seen how many juniors end up at WT.

https://weststigersjuniors.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Annual-Report-2019.FINAL_.pdf

You are correct mate, Wests Ashfield's strategic plan for many years has been about the Inner West - its been in all of their annual reports.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Geez there is some crap flying around here this morning, the wind must be blowing peoples minds.

 

[Geo]

Ye ole Game manager blaaaaaaaaaaah cliche..

How about we just recruit blokes who run harder and tackle harder than the opposition for 80mins week in week out..

I don't care who they are..

All the best teams win because they have good game managers though. We struggle to gain momentum after we have lost it and we struggle to put teams away. Both goes down to - guess what - game management.

Rubbish

Tell that to Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk, Mitchell Moses, Josh Hodgson, Nathan Cleary etc etc. all these good teams have guys that kick deep into corners, turn the opposition around, find repeat sets, make the right passes and the right kicks at critical times. That’s game management and that’s something we lack

Of course it’s backed up by those guys who run Hard and tackle hard but you need both, you need your halves taking control of a game.

You only have to look at the recent Storm/Rorters game..it was a mistake-a-thon for most of the game..no one from either team managed that game..what it did have is 2 teams with strike power, speed and desire to turn up for your mate..

Had it been game managed by either team it would never gone to Golden point..

The top teams control a game by the whole TEAM managing the game..not 1 or 2 individuals..

Now look at Manly where I'm told by Coops and the crew that DCE is one of the best 'game managers' in the business who haven't fired a shot since Turbo and Walker went down and just had 30 put on them by the Dragons..

It's cool tho.. Game Management terminology is cute for the younger generation

It’s cute for the younger generation and also all
The elite coaches and players that win premierships but what do I know ??‍♂️ Just gotta run hard like it’d 1970 ?

Your point is right, the whole team needs to hold the ball and do their job and that will take you a long way to winning games. At the same time, guys like smith, Cronk can turn momentum of games by putting in perfect kicks and executing plays right, or they work off the back of their forward doing their job and force repeat sets etc. that’s game management and whether you like
It or not, it’s incredibly important.

There’s been storm games where Cameron Smith pretty much lead their team around all on his own and did all the big plays on his own as well, one example doesn’t mean anything.

Yep, swap Pearce for Cronk and the chooks win 2 titles .

Can Tedesco come with a touch of Cronk..

 

[innsaneink]

There are certain clubs that are very loyal to the Panthers, St Marys,Windsor,Emu Plains and St Clair in particular.
I played at Lower Blue Mountains for 20 years and every player that ever made a Rep squad would get sent to one of those clubs.
If they were good enough to make it to the NRL they never mentioned Lower Blue Mountains.

Yeah the Eagles!!! Best sausage sanga around! Never had any big boys like Minchinbury or Blacktown but had some good fighting spirit.

Everything you said was spot on in regard to top shelf players moving on and playing elsewhere (Peter Wallace maybe from memory was one). Ah well as a Wests Tigers fan one thing for sure is you can’t keep em all...

Wallace actually for a season played out of the Penrith district with CarlingFord cougars in Balmain JRL... so he could return to play in his mates team... He was in a different division to his friends when he first got to St Mary's I'm assuming (not sure on his Penrith club)