Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tiger_one]

This whole thing of paying a player to play elsewhere is obviously something we need to work towards avoiding.

However it's a much better scenario versus keeping someone on your books for the sake of it.

Saying that, we could be easily payin $1mil next yr to players playing elsewhere.

I hear you champion @Auburnon80 but it's really handling the salary cap better, ie allowing more $$$ to be spent for players better than those already here on inflated wages.

 

[Cairnstigers]

TPJ on 690k at the Broncos --would need to take a haircut to come here---oops!

Yea he would need to Shave a bit off that price

 

[tony soprano]

Wests Tigers skipper Moses Mbye could become the first major casualty of the club's stuttering season, with the Gold Coast Titans expressing interest in the Queensland Origin representative for next year.

Sources with knowledge of negotiations told the Herald the Tigers would be willing to pay up to half the 26-year-old's $800,000 salary for the next two years should the Titans open formal discussions.



The move could free up money for the Tigers to have a crack at keeping hooker Harry Grant beyond this season. If Cameron Smith decides to play on at Melbourne, it would trigger a free agency clause in Grant's contract with the Storm.

The Tigers are trying to free up space in their roster, shopping Josh Reynolds to the Super League in recent weeks.

The Titans, who are trying to build something special under new coach Justin Holbrook, have secured the services of Brisbane's David Fifita, Melbourne's Tino Fa'asuamaleaui and Newcastle's Herman Ese'ese from next season. Gold Coast sources confirmed Mbye has been discussed as a potential five-eighth or hooker, with Nathan Peats off contract at the end of the year.

With pressure mounting on coach Michael Maguire to end the club's nine-year finals drought, cracks are beginning to appear at the Tigers as question marks surface over his coaching methods and relationship with the players.



Maguire wants to instil a harder edge to a team he believes has become accustomed to mediocrity, and is trying to clear the decks and create salary-cap space to bring in players capable of handling his philosophy. Maguire even tried to lighten the mood at training this week after senior players told him the fun had gone out of their preparation.

The other benefit of releasing Mbye from the final two years of his deal is it provides the Tigers with money at the ready in case Brandon Smith looks to leave the Storm as a result of Harry Grant returning in the off-season.

"I don't know how it would make me feel," Smith told Inside the NRL last month when asked of the possibility of Grant returning to the Storm as their long term No.9.


"It's obviously a tough decision that I'd have to make with the Melbourne Storm. We'll have to wait for that challenge to come. Obviously it's a really tough question for me to answer but we'll have to tackle that challenge when it comes.

"I definitely want to be a No.9. It's very tough for me to answer that at the moment. I'm just trying to focus on this year and don't want to step on anyone's toes. I definitely want to play No.9. Whatever happens happens."

Maguire made Mbye captain when he joined the club in 2019, but has since added Benji Marshall as co-captain. Mbye joined the Tigers from the Bulldogs midway through 2018 and has been used in multiple positions, but hasn't managed to land a permanent spot due to his versatility.

Mbye, who has three young children, is from Queensland and still has family in Noosa, making the move even more attractive should it eventuate in the coming weeks.

How can stories like this be good for us atm. Im no fan of Mybe but I hate reading stuff like this before a game. True or not true it cant be good for any teams headspace.
The media is systematically ruining the integrity of the game -printing stories to stir fans up speculating when their coach will be sacked and which players will possibly be wearing your colours next week and we all feed of it desperate for any information - damaging or not.
"Sources with knowledge told the Herald" - not a name of anyone insight.

Seasons over bud

 

[Strider]

Please pay 400k to get rid of Mbye, it sucks but his best spot for us is utility on bench and its too much. Get rid of the others asap too if possible =/ Have to make big moves.

 

[The_Patriot]

Meninga loves Mybe

 

[bathursttiger1]

Bye bye Mbye

 

[Goldust]

Two captains in three years being sold off 😂

 

[tony soprano]

Need a decent forward pack

 

[Hangonaminute]

Two captains in three years being sold off 😂

You have to ask questions about the coaches who are making them captain in the first place.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Mbye will be great as the Titans no9 IMO 🙂
Brooks would go ok as their no7 too

 

[avocadoontoast]

Two captains in three years being sold off ?

You have to ask questions about the coaches who are making them captain in the first place.

Very good point. Mbye didn’t make himself captain..

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I feel like we’d have to pay a Farah to Souths like subsidy to get him off the books. As bad of a contract he has, Idk if that would be worth it.

 

[JC99]

Would be great if we offloaded Mbye - big question is whether another club wants to take him.

 

[Telltails]

Wests Tigers skipper Moses Mbye could become the first major casualty of the club's stuttering season, with the Gold Coast Titans expressing interest in the Queensland Origin representative for next year.

Sources with knowledge of negotiations told the Herald the Tigers would be willing to pay up to half the 26-year-old's $800,000 salary for the next two years should the Titans open formal discussions.



The move could free up money for the Tigers to have a crack at keeping hooker Harry Grant beyond this season. If Cameron Smith decides to play on at Melbourne, it would trigger a free agency clause in Grant's contract with the Storm.

The Tigers are trying to free up space in their roster, shopping Josh Reynolds to the Super League in recent weeks.

The Titans, who are trying to build something special under new coach Justin Holbrook, have secured the services of Brisbane's David Fifita, Melbourne's Tino Fa'asuamaleaui and Newcastle's Herman Ese'ese from next season. Gold Coast sources confirmed Mbye has been discussed as a potential five-eighth or hooker, with Nathan Peats off contract at the end of the year.

With pressure mounting on coach Michael Maguire to end the club's nine-year finals drought, cracks are beginning to appear at the Tigers as question marks surface over his coaching methods and relationship with the players.



Maguire wants to instil a harder edge to a team he believes has become accustomed to mediocrity, and is trying to clear the decks and create salary-cap space to bring in players capable of handling his philosophy. Maguire even tried to lighten the mood at training this week after senior players told him the fun had gone out of their preparation.

The other benefit of releasing Mbye from the final two years of his deal is it provides the Tigers with money at the ready in case Brandon Smith looks to leave the Storm as a result of Harry Grant returning in the off-season.

"I don't know how it would make me feel," Smith told Inside the NRL last month when asked of the possibility of Grant returning to the Storm as their long term No.9.


"It's obviously a tough decision that I'd have to make with the Melbourne Storm. We'll have to wait for that challenge to come. Obviously it's a really tough question for me to answer but we'll have to tackle that challenge when it comes.

"I definitely want to be a No.9. It's very tough for me to answer that at the moment. I'm just trying to focus on this year and don't want to step on anyone's toes. I definitely want to play No.9. Whatever happens happens."

Maguire made Mbye captain when he joined the club in 2019, but has since added Benji Marshall as co-captain. Mbye joined the Tigers from the Bulldogs midway through 2018 and has been used in multiple positions, but hasn't managed to land a permanent spot due to his versatility.

Mbye, who has three young children, is from Queensland and still has family in Noosa, making the move even more attractive should it eventuate in the coming weeks.

How can stories like this be good for us atm. Im no fan of Mybe but I hate reading stuff like this before a game. True or not true it cant be good for any teams headspace.
The media is systematically ruining the integrity of the game -printing stories to stir fans up speculating when their coach will be sacked and which players will possibly be wearing your colours next week and we all feed of it desperate for any information - damaging or not.
"Sources with knowledge told the Herald" - not a name of anyone insight.

Seasons over bud

I know that - just an observation about the way the game is headed and our obsession with gaining access to any information - all season. The white noise can't be good for any teams performance despite the rhetoric about how they ignore it.

 

[Goldust]

Two captains in three years being sold off ?

You have to ask questions about the coaches who are making them captain in the first place.

For sure.
Seems like he was the only choice at the time.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So both captains could be gone in 2021. Lawrence most likely gone too. So who gets the nod? Preferably one captain would get named. Not a fan of co-captains. And if there’s 5, someone shoot me.

 

[Hangonaminute]

I feel like we’d have to pay a Farah to Souths like subsidy to get him off the books. As bad of a contract he has, Idk if that would be worth it.

It's worth it

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I feel like we’d have to pay a Farah to Souths like subsidy to get him off the books. As bad of a contract he has, Idk if that would be worth it.

It's worth it

There’s no way 500-600k to an opposition player for the next 2 years would be worth it

 

[Moh]

This whole thing of paying a player to play elsewhere is obviously something we need to work towards avoiding.

However it's a much better scenario versus keeping someone on your books for the sake of it.

Saying that, we could be easily payin $1mil next yr to players playing elsewhere.

I do agree, but it's no different to paying them the full amount to be sitting on the sidelines - or in Mbye's case hogging a spot he doesn't deserve.

 

[JC99]

Out of all the guys contracted from 2022 and beyond Mbye is clearly the worst and on the most coin. Makes a lot of sense to pay half his contract to move him on.