Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[finnzo]

I swear I get the biggest dopamine hit when I see the poms name pop up hahaha

 

[Wombat]

TPJ stood down indefinitely by the NRL due to multiple breaches of the covid protocols

Hes legit the stupidest player in the NRL

Based on the whole Bronco team being investigated, I'd say its more a culture of stupidity... or a stupid culture! Brisbane is falling apart...

 

[JC99]

Cheers POM! What’s with the Mbye story ?

He’s gotten the nod to see what else is out there. Definitely others also in the same position. Depending how many we can release & how quick we can do it will effect the line of recruiting. Big names & low/yet to debut players on the block.

In relation to recruits discussions with 2 players in advanced stages but both are contracted.......one happens to be a speedster ?

Hopefully Johnston or JAC. Hope they are quality players and not reserve graders

 

[Tiger5150]

I’ll do it, is anything happening around goalkicking, seems like it’s been completely ignored! Are we looking at a goal kicker by any chance ?

Are you asking me?

 

[Madge]

I’ll do it, is anything happening around goalkicking, seems like it’s been completely ignored! Are we looking at a goal kicker by any chance ?


Are you asking me?

Id take anything!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Cheers POM! What’s with the Mbye story ?

He’s gotten the nod to see what else is out there. Definitely others also in the same position. Depending how many we can release & how quick we can do it will effect the line of recruiting. Big names & low/yet to debut players on the block.

In relation to recruits discussions with 2 players in advanced stages but both are contracted.......one happens to be a speedster ?

Hopefully Johnston or JAC. Hope they are quality players and not reserve graders

Hopefully not anyone we’re trying to offload in 2 years.

 

[Cairnstigers]

I would honestly fork out the 500k for mbye to leave the team, It would be the best investment ill ever make. hopefully we sing tpj as well but I highly doubt it. And if he did he would probably play like 5 games and be suspended for the rest.

Man that is so nice of you to offer to pay $500'000 of your own money to help the club move on Mbye to another club
Have you let the club know of your generous offer

 

[bathursttiger1]

The Bulldogs have beaten rival clubs to lock in star forward Adam Elliott for a further three years.

 

[Needaname]

I'd have Benji back easily. I don't know why there's so much dislike for him. You blame the Newcastle game on him? Give teams time and space and the halves of any defensive team will be exposed defensively, especially paired with Leiluia out wide. Benji is our most creative player and our best kicker and he's not on a big contract, what's the problem? As soon as you get someone better you can drop him, but we don't have anyone better and we SHOULD sign him again if he'd be willing. You guys need to think more pragmatically: he's a good value squad contract who also happens to be our best half, and is one of the best in the league on his day. Don't worry about the fact it's Benji, you're signing him on backup money.

You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree with everything you said, he got dropped for his issues, he came back after supposedly fixing them and he is worse than ever, we played our best footy when he was watching from the stands.
Benji has never been a backup, look at todays team as a prime example, he should have been first dropped, he is always first picked, he is cooked, and he will be 36 next year and even worse,
Madden is signed and can do the job on bugger all money as well.
We need the roster spot, are you happy missing the 8 every year, because that is what he brings, and that is what we get

The idea that we need to get rid of Benji in order to play Madden is strange, we can have both (and do right now). But the solution to play Madden is fantasy. It's a weird assertion to think that a guy who has never played first grade is who we depend on next year. How much footy have you watched? the step up to first grade is always huge and you don't really know how a player will pan out. Maybe he'd be good, maybe not. Having Benji or not wouldn't impact that.

I don't think we played good footy when he wasn't there. Reynolds isn't better than him and I think it's crazy to suggest that.

Reynolds is the contract we need to get rid of. Both he and Mbye are on way too much. They're alright players, but they are being played like superstars.

Benji is one of our best player and he's on a small contract, he's not the problem.

You guys want a scapegoat for last week and benji didn't play well but I don't think that has anything to do with whether or not we offer another reasonable contract for a quality player.

Benji's proven in the past at Brisbane and this year that he can be a very positive squad member, he doesn't demand to start. I think, at the very least, he's a useful player to have in the squad; at his best he's our best player and a match winner.

Who is our alternative?

I've said the same before and I would add Lawrence into this bucket.

People forget that the squad extends beyond 1-17...you need some depth, not just promising juniors.

Benji is on $175K
Lawrence is on $100K

Even if they sat the entire season in the 18 and 19 jerseys, it would be NRL quality depth and huge experience covering positions that are hard to cover (Halves + Centre). These guys combined are on less than McQueens total contract ($400K)!

Further, we need to get through 1 more year before some big contracts expire. Having NRL quality depth on low contracts allows us to balance our squad in other areas.

We just need to get through 1 more year with these guys...no one is saying they should be starters.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Our squad needs a massive clean out, in terms of both skills and culture. We need speed and power, and we have limited squad positions to recuit these new players. We can't waste precious squad positions on placeholders. We need strike. And we need winners. Players who rise to the challenge of their rivals. The kind who stalk their prey in the night.

Look at the Roosters. Most of the cap on stars that win you games and young backup players that would be starters for us. Tupounioa, Faamusili, Butcher etc. Would you rather Tupouinoa or Lawrence on our bench? I know who i'd prefer, and they're both getting the same money.

These discussions are futile because the main point is missed.

We have LIMITED cap space. Guys like Lawrence serve 2 purposes:

1. To offer squad depth
2. To give as much playing value as possible for the salary we pay them (if we need them).
3.

Yes...Lawrence takes up a roster spot, but you can't just replace Lawrence with a Tupouinoa. Their salaries are totally different and is he available?

The point is...someone needs to be paid low salaries to lighten the load on the rest of the cap.

I actually agree with you though...if such a thing is a realistic possibility...but I don't think there's enough talent in the NRL to have a squad of 30 guys that fit that description and not exceed the cap.

Benji and Lawrence aren't the issue.

It's Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Mcqueen, E Taylor taking up a huge chuck of cap space.

No it's not futile. What's futile is reasoning with people who don't have a grasp of reality.

Toupinoa and Lawrence are both on roughly the same contact value. Which team is getting a better deal there? Lawrence offers a slow old guy with crap hands and no lateral defence. He's done. He offers nothing. UK or retirement awaits.

The Roosters have about 10 players on less than 200k. Their cheapies offer great value. Ours don't.

McIntyre is a last resort, and he takes Lawrence's #30 spot on the roster.

Madge is on the right path. Rather than have Jennings on 400k he has AJ on 150-200k.

Like I said...I don't disagree with the logic, but I think it's you that doesn't have a grasp on reality.

Everyone knows the Roosters are able to get players for less than what other clubs would have to pay.

Roosters contract value vs Tigers contract value don't equate to the same number.

Case in point...we offered Mitchell $1.2 Million and he went to the Rabbits on $800,000...not sure how you solve that issue.

Don’t offer Mitchell 1.2 offer him 900k.
It’s not that hard really...

Ummm...yeah ok...same result...he goes to the Rabbits

Exactly.
But what if it worked out the other way?

Mate...I think you'll find we started the bidding at $800-900k...ended up at $1.2 million...Souths came in and the rest is history. Not sure your plan has "masterstroke" written all over it...

What's everyone smoking today?

No mate.
It’s a ruthless take it or leave it approach.
It’s not the money that entices the players to switch clubs it’s opportunity.

Now, if as a hypothetical we had approached JAC before Mitchell and had him signed on the left wing for that 300k + some obviously. And then approached Mitchell with a 900k deal to come over would that be more enticing than coming to a club to be alone and pick up another 300k. The money was never going to force Mitchell’s hand. He’ll we could of offered 1.5 but we’d still be left with a player learning how to play fullback in his first year with no money to sign any complementary players.

Right...so just sign up Addo-Carr for $300,000, then Mitchell for $900,000?

This is not only ruthless...this is genius...

Thanks, I did say + extra to sign JAC. So $500 all up. But my point was create the interest before trying to land the big fish.
I’ve said this before with how the Titans have signed David Fifita.
Remember the last time we had as much money as the titans had available?
We doubled the salary and contract terms of JReynolds, Ben Matolino and Russell Packer because we were going to Give James Tedesco, Arron Woods and Mitch Moses similar salaries from that bucket.

 

[JC99]

I can kinda see where the telegraph is coming from. I don’t think we’ve only got $300k for next season, but we’re having to pay more for Doueihi and Joey next season, adding Stefano and a few of the guys we are letting go aren’t on big money.

My guess would be more like $500-$750k left for next season. Pretty crucial we offload Reynolds or Mbye if we want to make big signings

 

[Needaname]

I can kinda see where the telegraph is coming from. I don’t think we’ve only got $300k for next season, but we’re having to pay more for Doueihi and Joey next season, adding Stefano and a few of the guys we are letting go aren’t on big money.

My guess would be more like $500-$750k left for next season. Pretty crucial we offload Reynolds or Mbye if we want to make big signings

Usually, articles released along these lines are to give an insight to some of the important players as to how dire our position may be.
Possibly to encourage them to make a move.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Bulldogs have beaten rival clubs to lock in star forward Adam Elliott for a further three years.

It sounds as though Canterbury helicoptered it's final offer.

 

[Needaname]

The Bulldogs have beaten rival clubs to lock in star forward Adam Elliott for a further three years.

Was interviewed on NRL tonight.
Loves the Bulldogs and the fans love him equally.
Mentioned we initially made an offer along with the raiders and actually spoke of us quite glowingly. Nice to hear from a players perspective.

 

[JC99]

I can kinda see where the telegraph is coming from. I don’t think we’ve only got $300k for next season, but we’re having to pay more for Doueihi and Joey next season, adding Stefano and a few of the guys we are letting go aren’t on big money.

My guess would be more like $500-$750k left for next season. Pretty crucial we offload Reynolds or Mbye if we want to make big signings

Usually, articles released along these lines are to give an insight to some of the important players as to how dire our position may be.
Possibly to encourage them to make a move.

I can kinda see where the telegraph is coming from. I don’t think we’ve only got $300k for next season, but we’re having to pay more for Doueihi and Joey next season, adding Stefano and a few of the guys we are letting go aren’t on big money.

My guess would be more like $500-$750k left for next season. Pretty crucial we offload Reynolds or Mbye if we want to make big signings

Usually, articles released along these lines are to give an insight to some of the important players as to how dire our position may be.
Possibly to encourage them to make a move.

Mbyes manager said he would leave if there’s salary cap issues - maybe Madge wrote the article

 

[JC99]

I seriously hope Tohu Harris is one of these contracted players we are talking to according to The Pom. He’s a fantastic player, experienced player, good leader, just ticks all the boxes

 

[balmain boy]

Elliot looked to see if he could get more cash elsewhere. He couldn't without leaving the country, so he stayed where he is.

 

[Needaname]

I seriously hope Tohu Harris is one of these contracted players we are talking to according to The Pom. He’s a fantastic player, experienced player, good leader, just ticks all the boxes

What’s this statement your referring to?
The three contracted players we were chasing for the second half of this season?

Why isn’t Tohu Harris spoken about. Would be double the acquisition of signing Proctor. Leads the team each week.
Can see the warriors keen to keep him and certainly don’t think his going to get a rise beyond his 700k salary his on...

 

[851]

I seriously hope Tohu Harris is one of these contracted players we are talking to according to The Pom. He’s a fantastic player, experienced player, good leader, just ticks all the boxes

What’s this statement your referring to?
The three contracted players we were chasing for the second half of this season?

Why isn’t Tohu Harris spoken about. Would be double the acquisition of signing Proctor. Leads the team each week.
Can see the warriors keen to keep him and certainly don’t think his going to get a rise beyond his 700k salary his on...

He is an 80 minute work horse with some ball skills, him and LL would be a great backrow, but I still say we need a 13, Twal is not a 13, he is a tireless prop

 

[JC99]

I seriously hope Tohu Harris is one of these contracted players we are talking to according to The Pom. He’s a fantastic player, experienced player, good leader, just ticks all the boxes

What’s this statement your referring to?
The three contracted players we were chasing for the second half of this season?

Why isn’t Tohu Harris spoken about. Would be double the acquisition of signing Proctor. Leads the team each week.
Can see the warriors keen to keep him and certainly don’t think his going to get a rise beyond his 700k salary his on...

The Pom just earlier said we are in talks with two players who are currently contracted - Harris is available to talk to in November and is a quality player. Warriors will definitely try and keep him and he’ll probably stay there if they’re allowed to go back to NZ so it’s a long shot

 

[tigerballs]

Cheers POM! What’s with the Mbye story ?

He’s gotten the nod to see what else is out there. Definitely others also in the same position. Depending how many we can release & how quick we can do it will effect the line of recruiting. Big names & low/yet to debut players on the block.

In relation to recruits discussions with 2 players in advanced stages but both are contracted.......one happens to be a speedster ?

What an insight....