Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

The problem isn't so much Talau for JAC, because as players and in a vacuum, anyone would take that.

It's that we're trading a guy with tons of potential who's on a cheap deal for a guy who's already at the peak of his powers and will likely be getting overpaid if he's coming as a fullback.

JAC coming across to play winger on winger's money for Talau is fine, JAC on fullback money to struggle at fullback isn't.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209680) said:
Apparently we were looking at that PNG guy who was with rabbits , Eddie G something but he left aus so we didn't get him

I thought he had left to play Qld Cup?
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209680) said:
Apparently we were looking at that PNG guy who was with rabbits , Eddie G something but he left aus so we didn't get him

Papuans may not be the biggest or most celebrated, but they are tougher and play with more heart than anyone.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209664) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209657) said:
Talau will be a marquee centre..with Nofo on the books already...talau is worth more to me than the fox however I would love the fox

This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

I’d have JAC here in a heartbeat over any ‘potential’ unproven rookie. Don’t get me wrong I really like Talau but JAC is already a marquee player and would bring so much to the club now.

100%

Yep agreed. Remember when Cronk came available and what happened with their Roosters junior incumbent halfback.

It would be tough to lose Talau but it maybe needed to land JAC.

Again I'll say, only as a winger.
 
i woukd trade Nofo for JAC - we can use a hoffman or somerhing or Mommo. Nofo will be pushing in next contract for a price upgrade so woukd we keep him then
I would trade Talau for JAC - Mommo can take the spot, yes we lose potential but our last 9 years have been full of potential
i would trade Brooks for JAC - however be happy to play Madden at 7 or go with a Mmbye 7 and AD 6
JAC represents more than just a fullback or a winger he represents a current international and shows the nrl we are a good destination for rep players.
 
Re cronk to roosters they moved on mitchell pearce to get cronk sometimes tough decisions like moving Brooks talau or nofo may be needed
 
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209554) said:
@Furious1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209543) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209519) said:
@CocaCola said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209499) said:
I find it amusing that some posters would prefer to keep Talau and risk losing JAC over it.

Even Momo has shown more ability then Talau has shown so far.
Who cares about potential when you have proven success knocking at the door.

If Talau was a Knights junior, I doubt people would have the same opinion if the same scenario was offered.

Talau is cheap with two years to go on a contract.
The fact the Storm have asked for him should tell you all you need to know. We are not in a position to be releasing quality rookies for big priced wingers. Love the Fox but I sign him for 2022 and remove Storm leverage.

Exactly. Storm already have Momo who i'm sure would stay there but instead they allegedly want Talau. There's a reason for that. A 20 year old kid who has done a great job playing out of position week in and week out in the toughest competition in the world. Bellamy is no fool.

I just don’t think Melbourne have the leverage they think they do. Any player swapped has to be one we can do without but Melbourne need.
Momirovski is probably a wiser move.

All bets are off for Harry Grant I’d move anyone Addo-Carr in the roster for this kid.

Talau for Grant seems fair
Momorovski for Addo-Carr also fair
Who else can we trade
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209694) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209554) said:
@Furious1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209543) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209519) said:
@CocaCola said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209499) said:
I find it amusing that some posters would prefer to keep Talau and risk losing JAC over it.

Even Momo has shown more ability then Talau has shown so far.
Who cares about potential when you have proven success knocking at the door.

If Talau was a Knights junior, I doubt people would have the same opinion if the same scenario was offered.

Talau is cheap with two years to go on a contract.
The fact the Storm have asked for him should tell you all you need to know. We are not in a position to be releasing quality rookies for big priced wingers. Love the Fox but I sign him for 2022 and remove Storm leverage.

Exactly. Storm already have Momo who i'm sure would stay there but instead they allegedly want Talau. There's a reason for that. A 20 year old kid who has done a great job playing out of position week in and week out in the toughest competition in the world. Bellamy is no fool.

I just don’t think Melbourne have the leverage they think they do. Any player swapped has to be one we can do without but Melbourne need.
Momirovski is probably a wiser move.

All bets are off for Harry Grant I’d move anyone Addo-Carr in the roster for this kid.

Talau for Grant seems fair
Momorovski for Addo-Carr also fair
Who else can we trade

Grant is special if trade anyone on our team
 
Im on the fence with regards to Talau as a swap for JAC, now that Talau knows of the Storms interest im not sure how long he's contracted to us for but what stops him from agitating a move there now the interest has been openly expressed. Maybe a marquee now is better than the possible of potential in the future there's no guarantee of that. But i still firmly believe we should not persue JAC as a fullback though.
 
Addo Carr is on 350k at storm. 500k is fine for him, a pay increase and close to home. Madge is not the sort of coach to guarantee anything. He'd say join us and i'll give you an opportunity to play fullback in the off season but you've got competition. Ultimately whomever works hardest and performs best will play there and anyone else will fill in elsewhere in the backline. 500k is what the likes of Ferguson, Tupou, Vunivalu etc are on.

maybe we can give them someone like Cini who has a strong attacjing game, but needs to improve his defencce. They'd back themselves to do that. Or we give them Mbye for 400k and pay the rest.

Dogs would probably offer them DWZ and pay half his salary.
 
Trading for JAC would have to be cost aligned it’s not as simple as pick any player to trade for him.

On top of that his trade value for next year remains no upgrade or anything unless he agrees to a new deal (but he couldn’t do that for the year whilst under a trade deal).

We should just wait if the Storm release him then sign him.

JAC coming won’t be the difference in making the 8 or not alone
 
JAC was targeted last night for high kicks as opposed to earl. Yes he had Ferguson on that side vs Sivo on the other, but what does that tell you? The Eels def didn’t see him as a threat, and more of a weakness than earl. He made a few mistakes as well.

Yes I know it’s only it’s one game etc but if he was trialling first a fullback position, it was a rubbish performance. Only served to highlight the risks
 
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

We've made enough mistakes with our signings in the past I think we should forget this bloke...all his good years are behind him, and we certainly don't want to give up any of our promising youngsters...stop the rot now😕
 
@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209731) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

We've made enough mistakes with our signings in the past I think we should forget this bloke...all his good years are behind him, and we certainly don't want to give up any of our promising youngsters...stop the rot now😕

Further to the above..if Storm are sniffing around Talau we should keep him if they want him they must think he's pretty good:+1:
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209689) said:
Re cronk to roosters they moved on mitchell pearce to get cronk sometimes tough decisions like moving Brooks talau or nofo may be needed

If we were signing Cooper Cronk then yeah absolutely. Not for a winger though.
 
@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209732) said:
@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209731) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

We've made enough mistakes with our signings in the past I think we should forget this bloke...all his good years are behind him, and we certainly don't want to give up any of our promising youngsters...stop the rot now😕

Further to the above..if Storm are sniffing around Talau we should keep him if they want him they must think he's pretty good:+1:

I was thinking the same thing. They plucked Koro out of our Reggies and signed JAC when he couldn't get a regular starting spot with us. They certainly have an eye for our talented young players.
 
@tigeress said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209731) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209728) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1209663) said:
This is why we are ninth. Potential rated more highly than an actual marquee player. It beggars belief.

You are misrepresenting the position of supporters who oppose the suggestion that we should give up Talau to get JAC.

You are suggesting that we believe that Talau is a better footballer than JAC, or that he will certainly become a better footballer. I haven't seen anybody suggest that.

The issue is how much should we as a club be expected to give up to get the deal over the line.

I'm happy to pay marquee money to get JAC, but that's it. We shouldn't have to give up a promising junior as well.

We've made enough mistakes with our signings in the past I think we should forget this bloke...all his good years are behind him, and we certainly don't want to give up any of our promising youngsters...stop the rot now😕

He is 25, hardly past it
 
JAC is certainly not past it he’s in his prime and playing at the highest level of the sport. He is better than any outside back we have at the club period.

I wouldn’t stress about Talau, don’t think the club will be swapping him Melbourne are just trying their luck.
 

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