Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Not sure I trust anyone at the club to turn this around, but if I did it would be Hartigan and Madge. If they pay overs for blokes that fail then it will be their jobs on the line, so whatever they pick is fine with me.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214565) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214561) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214558) said:
Geez people get excited and carried away here.

Staines has only played 2 games in NRL. One was in a rout. He is not getting picked in first grade currently and supposedly Penrith are going to be happy to let him go.......but he is the next Ponga and worth over $500K pa?

***No-one said that but his agent.*** And every single club would have laughed and told him he's dreaming...!
Ponga had always been labelled a young superstar. Staines has just been a good young footballer. Huge difference.

BB have you just entered this thread now? Over the last 4 pages, 4 posters specifically said we should pay Staines $500k or more and two posters have used Ponga as a reference for Staines (excluding the comparisons in size with Ponga).

Who do you feel we should target?
 
@TigerVinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214471) said:
1 AD
2 Nof
3 BJ
4 Talau
5 JAC
6 Burton
7 Brooks

That's a back line with both speed and power. Burton definitely seems to play more eyes up footy who should hopefully compliment Brook's more structured style. Being that he is young may also help shy Brooks speak up and overcall some plays...finally.

Benji needs to go.

Back up reserve grade halves:
Reynolds (if he stays)
Madden
Walters

Mybe to 14 if Grant doesn't stay.


I think that this is the best we can expect and it's not that good.If we have a pack of forwards denting the line consistently they might go okay. I like Talau but he is an unproven NRL player let alone centre. Those halves would be some of the worst in the comp but hopefully they can improve.

Mbye would be a great bench utility but he is being paid as a marquee player.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214559) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214557) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214550) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214546) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214538) said:
@uuem said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214485) said:
Staines manager asking 2 million for 4yrs

That is overs in my opinion for a guy who has played what...2-3 games of NRL.

Wasn't it Madge who said he's not interested in paying overs?!

He's on the hunt for value because the club still has to re-balance the cap.

This Staines asking price should conclude negotiations between his management and us. Move on

the value argument is completely moot because we have nothing attracting players to the club. The players we can pick up at good value prices will be only because they get no other offers from rivals.

I think Blore & Stefano are good examples of value signings. No guarantee they're gonna be stars but they've got a high ceiling for development. Both clubs wanted to keep them. They just weren't quite ready for the top grade there and we used that to our advantage.

Seems like Madge wants it done that way. Take advantage of other clubs circumstances

I'm not sure they're what you'd call value signings though. Stefano is on almost $300k a year (reportedly) and had never played first grade.


They aren't value signings. They are the type of signings though that may give us some hope in the future. We aren't going to go out and buy marquee plasyers to win us the comp. Look at how our recent marquee recruits in Reynolds and Mbye are going compare to cut price Grant.
 
Its about time we started signing players that other clubs think "Bugger ...we thought we had him and lament and cry into their beers over "
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214538) said:
@uuem said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214485) said:
Staines manager asking 2 million for 4yrs

That is overs in my opinion for a guy who has played what...2-3 games of NRL.

I think we'll get him for $1.6m 4 years
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214563) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214549) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214544) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214541) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214540) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214534) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214506) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214499) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214495) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214492) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

What’s he played, two games? Even $300k a season is overs.

We need to pay up to get talent, even if it's potential talent.

If you were interviewing for the same type of job with 5 different employers and got 5 offers, what would make you take the job with the least desirable employer? Money.

Unless we take some risks and buy on potential, we're going to be left with older, broken players and other clubs cast offs. Gotta role the dice otherwise we'll be crap forever.

I don’t see him being offered that anywhere. Give him $1.2million over 4 years. We need to take risk for sure and I think paying him even that is a risk, he can’t be expecting 500 grand a season.

The Knights signed Ponga for $700k a season after only playing two games. They took the risk and blew everyone out of the water. The year they bought him the Knights won only 1 game, this year they will play finals football.

We are as undesirable now as the Knights were in 2016.

If the reports are true and we are paying $600k for Leilua next year, $500k for one of the most highly touted young fullbacks in the game seems reasonable to me.

He doesn’t look like the next Ponga to me but I understand what you’re saying my point is more we shouldn’t pay that money if we don’t have to. I don’t see him getting offered that, maybe do a long deal where it’s $300k first year and goes up $100k every season over 4 years.

if there's one thing we all know it's that we will have to pay overs to get him

Yeah for sure would just rather do increases every year so he’s still getting paid a good amount over a long period and we aren’t spending huge money in the first season where he’s still finding his feet

We probably won’t even sign him anyway ?

I would rather take a huge risk with a guy who could be anything than throw money at old or broken down blokes like Reynolds, Packer, McQueen, Proctor. Spend big on the best youth in the game and see what happens. Everything else has failed.

Yeah I agree. If you’re gonna pay overs at least do it on kids who could become stars.

I hope they keep the development System for next season and we sign some more young rep stars. I’ve noticed William kei has been doing a lot of training with our first grade side so I reckon he’ll be one

When you buy a car do you all pay asking price .....


We need to haggle ..half a danari


Anyone who joins WT gets paid extra. We paid McQueen, Mbye etc more than their contract. We have been negotiating on price but pushing the figure up not down. So, consequently we have given ourselves a great opportunity to gather a team of individuals who may not really want to be here.
This appears to be much of the problem Madge and Hartigan have had to work through. It’s a little difficult to now say , hey we want players who want to be here first and foremost, then we can talk about fringe benefits.
Due to management incompetence ,and a desire for quick results , we now have this “pick up the scraps and pay a premium “ embedded into our culture.
I’m one of many who are really disappointed about the direction we have taken post the Tim Sheens era. Sheens was a big fan of grow your own talent and lock them up by treating them well and giving them contracts.
I put it to you, the players are not mentally tough because many of them are here for the wrong reasons.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214563) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214549) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214544) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214541) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214540) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214534) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214506) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214499) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214495) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214492) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

What’s he played, two games? Even $300k a season is overs.

We need to pay up to get talent, even if it's potential talent.

If you were interviewing for the same type of job with 5 different employers and got 5 offers, what would make you take the job with the least desirable employer? Money.

Unless we take some risks and buy on potential, we're going to be left with older, broken players and other clubs cast offs. Gotta role the dice otherwise we'll be crap forever.

I don’t see him being offered that anywhere. Give him $1.2million over 4 years. We need to take risk for sure and I think paying him even that is a risk, he can’t be expecting 500 grand a season.

The Knights signed Ponga for $700k a season after only playing two games. They took the risk and blew everyone out of the water. The year they bought him the Knights won only 1 game, this year they will play finals football.

We are as undesirable now as the Knights were in 2016.

If the reports are true and we are paying $600k for Leilua next year, $500k for one of the most highly touted young fullbacks in the game seems reasonable to me.

He doesn’t look like the next Ponga to me but I understand what you’re saying my point is more we shouldn’t pay that money if we don’t have to. I don’t see him getting offered that, maybe do a long deal where it’s $300k first year and goes up $100k every season over 4 years.

if there's one thing we all know it's that we will have to pay overs to get him

Yeah for sure would just rather do increases every year so he’s still getting paid a good amount over a long period and we aren’t spending huge money in the first season where he’s still finding his feet

We probably won’t even sign him anyway ?

I would rather take a huge risk with a guy who could be anything than throw money at old or broken down blokes like Reynolds, Packer, McQueen, Proctor. Spend big on the best youth in the game and see what happens. Everything else has failed.

Yeah I agree. If you’re gonna pay overs at least do it on kids who could become stars.

I hope they keep the development System for next season and we sign some more young rep stars. I’ve noticed William kei has been doing a lot of training with our first grade side so I reckon he’ll be one

When you buy a car do you all pay asking price .....


We need to haggle ..half a danari


Anyone who joins WT gets paid extra. We paid McQueen, Mbye etc more than their contract. We have been negotiating on price but pushing the figure up not down. So, consequently we have given ourselves a great opportunity to gather a team of individuals who may not really want to be here.
This appears to be much of the problem Madge and Hartigan have had to work through. It’s a little difficult to now say , hey we want players who want to be here first and foremost, then we can talk about fringe benefits.
Due to management incompetence ,and a desire for quick results , we now have this “pick up the scraps and pay a premium “ embedded into our culture.
I’m one of many who are really disappointed about the direction we have taken post the Tim Sheens era. Sheens was a big fan of grow your own talent and lock them up by treating them well and giving them contracts.
I put it to you, the players are not mentally tough because many of them are here for the wrong reasons.

I would definitely say some not necessarily many
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214563) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214549) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214544) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214541) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214540) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214534) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214506) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214499) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214495) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214492) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

What’s he played, two games? Even $300k a season is overs.

We need to pay up to get talent, even if it's potential talent.

If you were interviewing for the same type of job with 5 different employers and got 5 offers, what would make you take the job with the least desirable employer? Money.

Unless we take some risks and buy on potential, we're going to be left with older, broken players and other clubs cast offs. Gotta role the dice otherwise we'll be crap forever.

I don’t see him being offered that anywhere. Give him $1.2million over 4 years. We need to take risk for sure and I think paying him even that is a risk, he can’t be expecting 500 grand a season.

The Knights signed Ponga for $700k a season after only playing two games. They took the risk and blew everyone out of the water. The year they bought him the Knights won only 1 game, this year they will play finals football.

We are as undesirable now as the Knights were in 2016.

If the reports are true and we are paying $600k for Leilua next year, $500k for one of the most highly touted young fullbacks in the game seems reasonable to me.

He doesn’t look like the next Ponga to me but I understand what you’re saying my point is more we shouldn’t pay that money if we don’t have to. I don’t see him getting offered that, maybe do a long deal where it’s $300k first year and goes up $100k every season over 4 years.

if there's one thing we all know it's that we will have to pay overs to get him

Yeah for sure would just rather do increases every year so he’s still getting paid a good amount over a long period and we aren’t spending huge money in the first season where he’s still finding his feet

We probably won’t even sign him anyway ?

I would rather take a huge risk with a guy who could be anything than throw money at old or broken down blokes like Reynolds, Packer, McQueen, Proctor. Spend big on the best youth in the game and see what happens. Everything else has failed.

Yeah I agree. If you’re gonna pay overs at least do it on kids who could become stars.

I hope they keep the development System for next season and we sign some more young rep stars. I’ve noticed William kei has been doing a lot of training with our first grade side so I reckon he’ll be one

When you buy a car do you all pay asking price .....


We need to haggle ..half a danari


Anyone who joins WT gets paid extra. We paid McQueen, Mbye etc more than their contract. We have been negotiating on price but pushing the figure up not down. So, consequently we have given ourselves a great opportunity to gather a team of individuals who may not really want to be here.
This appears to be much of the problem Madge and Hartigan have had to work through. It’s a little difficult to now say , hey we want players who want to be here first and foremost, then we can talk about fringe benefits.
Due to management incompetence ,and a desire for quick results , we now have this “pick up the scraps and pay a premium “ embedded into our culture.
I’m one of many who are really disappointed about the direction we have taken post the Tim Sheens era. Sheens was a big fan of grow your own talent and lock them up by treating them well and giving them contracts.
I put it to you, the players are not mentally tough because many of them are here for the wrong reasons.

We need to get deals done quickly ...every time we lose the price goes up
 
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214435) said:
@The_Doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214420) said:
Get rid of Grub & Brooks get in Burton let Benji play on but get a Gareth Ellis/Beau Scott type next to him to cover all his turn style tackles.

I would rather see Benji go & keep Brooks, whilst Benji has been a great servant to the Tigers he is too dominant a player & appears to stifle Brooks game. The last time Brooks played without Benji he was Dally M halfback of the year.

Everyone seems to stifle Brooks's game M Moses, Farah Benji the only halves partner that hasnt been accused of the is Reynolds and thats because he runs around like a headless chook. When are people going to realise Brooks isnt what we thought he was going to behe has never controlled a game and never will. Busting out the odd good performace here and there isnt good enough, he's had enpough free passes.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214559) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214557) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214550) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214546) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214538) said:
@uuem said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214485) said:
Staines manager asking 2 million for 4yrs

That is overs in my opinion for a guy who has played what...2-3 games of NRL.

Wasn't it Madge who said he's not interested in paying overs?!

He's on the hunt for value because the club still has to re-balance the cap.

This Staines asking price should conclude negotiations between his management and us. Move on

the value argument is completely moot because we have nothing attracting players to the club. The players we can pick up at good value prices will be only because they get no other offers from rivals.

I think Blore & Stefano are good examples of value signings. No guarantee they're gonna be stars but they've got a high ceiling for development. Both clubs wanted to keep them. They just weren't quite ready for the top grade there and we used that to our advantage.

Seems like Madge wants it done that way. Take advantage of other clubs circumstances

I'm not sure they're what you'd call value signings though. Stefano is on almost $300k a year (reportedly) and had never played first grade.

**IF** Stefano plays to a high level next year and dominates opposition props then yes that is good value for money spent. Kind of middle range salary for decent props these days.

And if he turns out to be a dud then at least it's nowhere near Crusty Rusty's cap hit
 
@NT_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214588) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214563) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214549) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214544) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214541) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214540) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214534) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214506) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214499) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214495) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214492) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

What’s he played, two games? Even $300k a season is overs.

We need to pay up to get talent, even if it's potential talent.

If you were interviewing for the same type of job with 5 different employers and got 5 offers, what would make you take the job with the least desirable employer? Money.

Unless we take some risks and buy on potential, we're going to be left with older, broken players and other clubs cast offs. Gotta role the dice otherwise we'll be crap forever.

I don’t see him being offered that anywhere. Give him $1.2million over 4 years. We need to take risk for sure and I think paying him even that is a risk, he can’t be expecting 500 grand a season.

The Knights signed Ponga for $700k a season after only playing two games. They took the risk and blew everyone out of the water. The year they bought him the Knights won only 1 game, this year they will play finals football.

We are as undesirable now as the Knights were in 2016.

If the reports are true and we are paying $600k for Leilua next year, $500k for one of the most highly touted young fullbacks in the game seems reasonable to me.

He doesn’t look like the next Ponga to me but I understand what you’re saying my point is more we shouldn’t pay that money if we don’t have to. I don’t see him getting offered that, maybe do a long deal where it’s $300k first year and goes up $100k every season over 4 years.

if there's one thing we all know it's that we will have to pay overs to get him

Yeah for sure would just rather do increases every year so he’s still getting paid a good amount over a long period and we aren’t spending huge money in the first season where he’s still finding his feet

We probably won’t even sign him anyway ?

I would rather take a huge risk with a guy who could be anything than throw money at old or broken down blokes like Reynolds, Packer, McQueen, Proctor. Spend big on the best youth in the game and see what happens. Everything else has failed.

Yeah I agree. If you’re gonna pay overs at least do it on kids who could become stars.

I hope they keep the development System for next season and we sign some more young rep stars. I’ve noticed William kei has been doing a lot of training with our first grade side so I reckon he’ll be one

When you buy a car do you all pay asking price .....


We need to haggle ..half a danari


Anyone who joins WT gets paid extra. We paid McQueen, Mbye etc more than their contract. We have been negotiating on price but pushing the figure up not down. So, consequently we have given ourselves a great opportunity to gather a team of individuals who may not really want to be here.
This appears to be much of the problem Madge and Hartigan have had to work through. It’s a little difficult to now say , hey we want players who want to be here first and foremost, then we can talk about fringe benefits.
Due to management incompetence ,and a desire for quick results , we now have this “pick up the scraps and pay a premium “ embedded into our culture.
I’m one of many who are really disappointed about the direction we have taken post the Tim Sheens era. Sheens was a big fan of grow your own talent and lock them up by treating them well and giving them contracts.
I put it to you, the players are not mentally tough because many of them are here for the wrong reasons.

I would definitely say some not necessarily many

I would definitely say too many.
It’s not easy to recognise them from statistics alone, you have to look closely at their discretionary effort. I suspect this is what Madge was looking at when he went to the sideline.
 
I may be wrong, but id be surprised if most first graders aren't hitting at least around that 300k mark. Im sure R.Jennings will be on something like that.

For me that's entry level to buy a player. Your now risking 200k on his talent, + he can play fullback.
I just hope were in discussion with him.

For me were not at best a title threat at least until 2023, like this year - next year ill be hoping to jag a spot in the bottom of the 8. If burton/staines are on board ill feel more confident.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214482) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214474) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214435) said:
@The_Doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214420) said:
Get rid of Grub & Brooks get in Burton let Benji play on but get a Gareth Ellis/Beau Scott type next to him to cover all his turn style tackles.

I would rather see Benji go & keep Brooks, whilst Benji has been a great servant to the Tigers he is too dominant a player & appears to stifle Brooks game. The last time Brooks played without Benji he was Dally M halfback of the year.


As a fan base we really need to stop with this kind of reasoning.

If Brooks is dominated by anyone its because he is not good enough and is not the player we need.

Good halves work out a way to play with other good halves.

Excuses for him have dried up.

And if your forwards are being smashed? Sterling and Kenny would find it difficult to operate. What do you say to that?


More excuses.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214592) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214588) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214563) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214549) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214544) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214541) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214540) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214534) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214506) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214499) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214495) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214492) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

What’s he played, two games? Even $300k a season is overs.

We need to pay up to get talent, even if it's potential talent.

If you were interviewing for the same type of job with 5 different employers and got 5 offers, what would make you take the job with the least desirable employer? Money.

Unless we take some risks and buy on potential, we're going to be left with older, broken players and other clubs cast offs. Gotta role the dice otherwise we'll be crap forever.

I don’t see him being offered that anywhere. Give him $1.2million over 4 years. We need to take risk for sure and I think paying him even that is a risk, he can’t be expecting 500 grand a season.

The Knights signed Ponga for $700k a season after only playing two games. They took the risk and blew everyone out of the water. The year they bought him the Knights won only 1 game, this year they will play finals football.

We are as undesirable now as the Knights were in 2016.

If the reports are true and we are paying $600k for Leilua next year, $500k for one of the most highly touted young fullbacks in the game seems reasonable to me.

He doesn’t look like the next Ponga to me but I understand what you’re saying my point is more we shouldn’t pay that money if we don’t have to. I don’t see him getting offered that, maybe do a long deal where it’s $300k first year and goes up $100k every season over 4 years.

if there's one thing we all know it's that we will have to pay overs to get him

Yeah for sure would just rather do increases every year so he’s still getting paid a good amount over a long period and we aren’t spending huge money in the first season where he’s still finding his feet

We probably won’t even sign him anyway ?

I would rather take a huge risk with a guy who could be anything than throw money at old or broken down blokes like Reynolds, Packer, McQueen, Proctor. Spend big on the best youth in the game and see what happens. Everything else has failed.

Yeah I agree. If you’re gonna pay overs at least do it on kids who could become stars.

I hope they keep the development System for next season and we sign some more young rep stars. I’ve noticed William kei has been doing a lot of training with our first grade side so I reckon he’ll be one

When you buy a car do you all pay asking price .....


We need to haggle ..half a danari


Anyone who joins WT gets paid extra. We paid McQueen, Mbye etc more than their contract. We have been negotiating on price but pushing the figure up not down. So, consequently we have given ourselves a great opportunity to gather a team of individuals who may not really want to be here.
This appears to be much of the problem Madge and Hartigan have had to work through. It’s a little difficult to now say , hey we want players who want to be here first and foremost, then we can talk about fringe benefits.
Due to management incompetence ,and a desire for quick results , we now have this “pick up the scraps and pay a premium “ embedded into our culture.
I’m one of many who are really disappointed about the direction we have taken post the Tim Sheens era. Sheens was a big fan of grow your own talent and lock them up by treating them well and giving them contracts.
I put it to you, the players are not mentally tough because many of them are here for the wrong reasons.

I would definitely say some not necessarily many

I would definitely say too many.
It’s not easy to recognise them from statistics alone, you have to look closely at their discretionary effort. I suspect this is what Madge was looking at when he went to the sideline.

Well for a team in our position, one is too many. I think WT has a reasonable core of players that want to play here, but I think Ivans rescue squad came for easy money and an early off season.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214486) said:
Hooper reporting Staines looking for 4 year contract, $500k per season.

Done
$500,000 a year for two years
$500,000 a year for years 3 and 4 club option
Sign before you leave the office
 
@Moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1214601) said:
Lol... Burton 5 games, Stains 2 games... and we're over here frothing.

Some of you...

it might be the only thing we win
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Let us have some hope
 

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