happy_tiger
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@Easy Tiger. said:
Can't be too bad then If he twiitters right handed his right arm was the one in question Fingers crossed 😛ray:
OFFICIAL Simon Dwyer [Discussion]
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Can't be too bad then If he twiitters right handed his right arm was the one in question Fingers crossed 😛ray:
Joel Helmes
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Wests Tigers backrower SIMON DWYER has been cleared of serious injury after being rushed to hospital during last night's NRL clash with Canterbury.
DWYER had trouble standing after hurting his shoulder in mis-timed a tackle on Bulldogs prop MICHAEL HODGSON.
Tigers chief executive STEPHEN HUMPHREYS defended the medics' decision to let the 22-year-old walk off the field.
HUMPHREYS says it is unusual for a player to be stretchered off due to a shoulder injury and the reason DWYER was rubber-legged was due to periphery nerve damage.
Scans cleared DWYER of serious damage but the club are still awaiting news on the shoulder.
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DWYER had trouble standing after hurting his shoulder in mis-timed a tackle on Bulldogs prop MICHAEL HODGSON.
Tigers chief executive STEPHEN HUMPHREYS defended the medics' decision to let the 22-year-old walk off the field.
HUMPHREYS says it is unusual for a player to be stretchered off due to a shoulder injury and the reason DWYER was rubber-legged was due to periphery nerve damage.
Scans cleared DWYER of serious damage but the club are still awaiting news on the shoulder.
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Original_Magpie
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@Chris said:
The Club doctor went on the field and said he was fine to walk off
magpie_mania
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@Kickme said:
Ridiculous post there was no one more worried for him than me.This is quite a surprising whingeing and very "RANDOM" post from someone who doesnt seem to post very much.UMM last time I checked this was a forum which is all about opinions.Its very brave of you from the safety of your laptop big guy to say someone dribbles s*** and this site is full of no it alls.If this is the case why are you on here. :crazy :crazy
I have to be honest (and I am not a doctor), having done a simple first aid course I felt uncomfortable at the moment that he tried to raise his head off the ground. First thing you are taught is that you keep the head/neck still.
TBH to me it looks like the Tigers have been caught with its pants down. No Medicab, took forever to get the stretcher out to him (bringing it on as he was walking off was embarrassing. I can NOT believe a medical professional or even trainers would allow a player with OBVIOUS nerve damage to stand up and walk off.
TBH to me it looks like the Tigers have been caught with its pants down. No Medicab, took forever to get the stretcher out to him (bringing it on as he was walking off was embarrassing. I can NOT believe a medical professional or even trainers would allow a player with OBVIOUS nerve damage to stand up and walk off.
westTAHger
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great to see that Simon has been cleared of any serious damage. if any of us sufffered a simliar impact injury like he did last night, and were later told, there was good news, as in no serious damage, but bad news, shoulder injury.
I would be estatic to learn that there there is a shoulder injury, as in time it will heal.
if it means that Simon has to miss the rest of the season or longer, then really who cares, as it is in significant compared to rest of his life. :smiley:
I would be estatic to learn that there there is a shoulder injury, as in time it will heal.
if it means that Simon has to miss the rest of the season or longer, then really who cares, as it is in significant compared to rest of his life. :smiley:
Really bad pictures of him when he came off. Looked like he had suffered a stroke!
Sincerely hope he recovers and changes are made to procedures as it was a very bad look for the game.
There was nothing too wrong with his technique…timing just a tad off ...more a freak occurance then anything.
Sincerely hope he recovers and changes are made to procedures as it was a very bad look for the game.
There was nothing too wrong with his technique…timing just a tad off ...more a freak occurance then anything.
Farah said on Super Saturday they have fears he may not play again this year. His been moved to Royal North Shore and is still suffering pins and needles down his arm. Link is below.
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/wests-tigers-forward-simon-dwyer-could-miss-rest-of-2011-with-neck-injury-robbie-farah-reveals/story-fn2mcuj6-1226081865684
magpie_mania
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@southerntiger said:
I think youll find that the one you should be pointing your angst at is humphreys who after facing pressure from the media for the poor treatment on the field re stretcher,medicab e.t.c was very quick to downplay the situation next day by saying dwyer had no serious injury.But going off his captain farah he has said something completely different.How you deem this not serious is beyond me.I know who the true grub is.Not me it is the ceo of our freaking club the guys nothing but a politician who cant do his maths when it comes to a salary cap.Maybe the injury aint serious to him because his got plans of getting rid of dwyer too.
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tiger4ever
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@magpie mania said:
We have all heard why we went over the cap it was a technical breach so there really isnt a need to push your barrow on this topic.Gees give the guy a break its because hes a ex balmain player…thats obvious....
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Ken_Oath
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It was disgusting that they let him walk off. It made me feel sick. Unintentional mistake but unprofessional in the extreme. Hope simon is ok.
magpie_mania
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@tiger4ever said:
Read what I write and youll see that this is 99% about humphreys fronting the media and seemingly flustered tells the world hes fine but the captain on the same day says something completely different.Sorry for pushing the barrow f thats what you call standing up for dwyers health.Im gonna shy away from namecalling because its cowardice but if you continue to jump to the defence of anything balmain instead of whats right and wrong I think thats detrimental to the wests tigers.This time last year I thought the guy was god with getting tuqiri and increased membership e.t.c and if you go back and look at threads youll see that.The guy this year has proven to me that he says one thing when the reality is something different.I ask you this tell me one person me included who had issues with humphreys last year.This sudden defence of anything considered balmain property is getting sickening.Balmain provide a hell of a lot to this jv Ill be the first to admit it and quite frankly yuoll see for a guy whos made over a thousand posts I certainly never used to get shouted down for supposed anti balmain sentiment.In addition to this I have never(zero and I mean zero)times have I started a thread so certainly not the behaviour from a guy who had a barrow to push or was a troll which I was labelled the other day from someone throwing insults from the safety of their computer.The whole way players have been told to leave this year despite numbers of years on their contract has certainly raised questions of player welfare and this incident to me re the statement he released today just confirms to me the bloke dont care about his players.Please feel free to respond to this tiger4ever but please no balmain conspiracy theorist please Im just all for improving the wests tigers.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-doctor-asks-why-wests-tigers-forward-simon-dwyer-walked-off/story-e6frfgbo-1226081957640
THE NRL's chief medical officer Ron Muratore has questioned the Wests Tigers' decision to walk injured back-rower Simon Dwyer from Campbelltown Stadium with nerve damage in his neck.
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The sight of Dwyer being assisted from the field in the first half against the Bulldogs was one of the worst advertisements for the NRL.
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Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys admitted the vision of a disoriented Dwyer being so unsteady on his feet was uncomfortable to watch. The club intends to review its medical assessment procedures after the incident, but stands by Dwyer's treatment on Friday night.
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There is no set procedure on when a player must be medi-cabbed or stretchered from the field. But the Tigers denied Dwyer suffered a heavy concussion, something NRL chief medico Muratore disputed.
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"I couldn't believe they (walked Dwyer off). I wasn't there, so I don't know what they were thinking, but he didn't seem like he could stand up," Muratore said.
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* Origin: Head coach or spectator
* LIVE BLOG: NRL: Live blog: NSW Blues team announcement
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* Dwyer could be out for season FoxSports, 16 hours ago
* Ugly Dogs accept Wade's charity The Australian, 1 day ago
* Bulldogs put bite on lame Tigers The Australian, 1 day ago
* Play Origin on weekends - Bellamy Courier Mail, 1 Jun 2011
* Ennis on report as Titans go missing Courier Mail, 27 May 2011
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"He was pretty significantly concussed."
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When told Tigers doctor Scott Burne's initial diagnosis was Dwyer had suffered a shoulder injury and no concussion, Muratore responded: "But he couldn't stand up. They should have realised when they stood him up that he couldn't stand.
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"From what I could see on the television, the guy was jelly-legged. He couldn't stand, he didn't look like he knew where he was.
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"I can't be critical because I wasn't there, but it didn't look good. The way he was holding his arm, you could see that there was no use in that arm.
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"If you look at the tackle, it didn't look like it was a shoulder injury to me - it looked like a brachial plexus injury. There are five nerves that go down that arm and he's belted them where they form at the neck."
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And as Tigers coach Tim Sheens highlighted, in many instances players refuse to be carried off and insist on walking from the field.
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Muratore maintained even if Dwyer had only complained of a shoulder injury, common sense should have suggested the Tigers back-rower was heavily concussed.
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"We don't have a standard NRL procedure. We leave it up to the doctor and the trainer," Muratore said. "We don't say to them you must stretcher everybody off. You leave it up to their clinical judgment. From what I could see, their clinical judgment lacked a little bit."
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Humphreys maintained the club doctor had made the correct diagnosis.
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"I know Ron well and respect him, but I think if he wants to comment he should wait for an official briefing first," Humphreys said.
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"Our medical staff have confirmed there was no concussion and no concern for spinal injuries.
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"I'm not a doctor and don't pretend to be one, I can only be guided by the experts."
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**When the paramedics arrived at Campbelltown Stadium, they immediately put Dwyer into a neck brace and onto a stretcher before taking him to Liverpool Hospital.**
A CT scan and MRI scan cleared the young back-rower of any serious neck or shoulder injuries and the club is waiting to learn the extent of the nerve damage.
So one set of medicos put him on a stretcher and neck brace…..but another set of medicos think he's OK to walk?
Looks to be some very differing standards of medicl procedures to me
THE NRL's chief medical officer Ron Muratore has questioned the Wests Tigers' decision to walk injured back-rower Simon Dwyer from Campbelltown Stadium with nerve damage in his neck.
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The sight of Dwyer being assisted from the field in the first half against the Bulldogs was one of the worst advertisements for the NRL.
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Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys admitted the vision of a disoriented Dwyer being so unsteady on his feet was uncomfortable to watch. The club intends to review its medical assessment procedures after the incident, but stands by Dwyer's treatment on Friday night.
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There is no set procedure on when a player must be medi-cabbed or stretchered from the field. But the Tigers denied Dwyer suffered a heavy concussion, something NRL chief medico Muratore disputed.
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"I couldn't believe they (walked Dwyer off). I wasn't there, so I don't know what they were thinking, but he didn't seem like he could stand up," Muratore said.
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Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.
Related Coverage
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* Origin: Head coach or spectator
* LIVE BLOG: NRL: Live blog: NSW Blues team announcement
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* Dwyer could be out for season FoxSports, 16 hours ago
* Ugly Dogs accept Wade's charity The Australian, 1 day ago
* Bulldogs put bite on lame Tigers The Australian, 1 day ago
* Play Origin on weekends - Bellamy Courier Mail, 1 Jun 2011
* Ennis on report as Titans go missing Courier Mail, 27 May 2011
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End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.
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"He was pretty significantly concussed."
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When told Tigers doctor Scott Burne's initial diagnosis was Dwyer had suffered a shoulder injury and no concussion, Muratore responded: "But he couldn't stand up. They should have realised when they stood him up that he couldn't stand.
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"From what I could see on the television, the guy was jelly-legged. He couldn't stand, he didn't look like he knew where he was.
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"I can't be critical because I wasn't there, but it didn't look good. The way he was holding his arm, you could see that there was no use in that arm.
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"If you look at the tackle, it didn't look like it was a shoulder injury to me - it looked like a brachial plexus injury. There are five nerves that go down that arm and he's belted them where they form at the neck."
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And as Tigers coach Tim Sheens highlighted, in many instances players refuse to be carried off and insist on walking from the field.
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Muratore maintained even if Dwyer had only complained of a shoulder injury, common sense should have suggested the Tigers back-rower was heavily concussed.
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"We don't have a standard NRL procedure. We leave it up to the doctor and the trainer," Muratore said. "We don't say to them you must stretcher everybody off. You leave it up to their clinical judgment. From what I could see, their clinical judgment lacked a little bit."
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Humphreys maintained the club doctor had made the correct diagnosis.
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"I know Ron well and respect him, but I think if he wants to comment he should wait for an official briefing first," Humphreys said.
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"Our medical staff have confirmed there was no concussion and no concern for spinal injuries.
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"I'm not a doctor and don't pretend to be one, I can only be guided by the experts."
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**When the paramedics arrived at Campbelltown Stadium, they immediately put Dwyer into a neck brace and onto a stretcher before taking him to Liverpool Hospital.**
A CT scan and MRI scan cleared the young back-rower of any serious neck or shoulder injuries and the club is waiting to learn the extent of the nerve damage.
So one set of medicos put him on a stretcher and neck brace…..but another set of medicos think he's OK to walk?
Looks to be some very differing standards of medicl procedures to me
Tigerdave
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they'll need to review this, it looked awful him trying to walk off the field
He's still in RNS Hospital
you_know_who
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according to robbie farah on fox sports yesterday apparently simon dwyer was rushed to royal north shore for precaution and is unlikey to play again this year.
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