South Sydney's Latrell Mitchell in hot water

[dazza65]

Thug has racial undertones? What rubbish. Players in the NRL/AFL etc of all racial backgrounds for a hundred years have been called thugs.

thug noun
plural thugs
Definition of thug
1 see usage paragraph below : a violent or brutish criminal or bully
a brutal thug
a gang of thugs
… in American History X, Norton … plays a vicious young Venice Beach thug, a racist skinhead with … a thick black swastika tattooed over one bulging pec, and a gleam of murder in his eye.
— Owen Gleiberman

or

thug

See synonyms for: thug / thugs on Thesaurus.com
noun
a violent, lawless, or vicious person, especially one who commits a crime such as assault, robbery, or murder:
It wasn't uncommon for hired thugs to intimidate shop owners until they paid up.

 

[rustycage]

“If Latrell Mitchell deserves 4 weeks on the sideline for that incident, I am an astronaut,” Gould tweeted.


I look forward to watching Gus walk on the moon.

Mars would be better

 

[facepalmer]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

 

[facepalmer]

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they’re a thug.


Maybe in your world that is the case but in my world i call them a thug and i have never heard it used to racialy apply to anybody of any race.I am 68

Your age is not a reflection of how much empathy or tolerance you have.

 

[mike]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

You do realise that genetically there is no such thing as race. It’s totally made up concept. By playing the race card you are actually perpetuating the nonsense.

 

[4jtigers]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

a thug is a thug mate - colour of the skin does not matter

 

[facepalmer]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

You do realise that genetically there is no such thing a race. It’s totally made up concept. By playing the race card you are actually perpetuating the nonsense.

Look dude, you and everyone else here can continue to live your lives and do as you please. I really don't care. I understand how the term hurts black people when it's used the way that it was used here and I will attempt to educate someone on this stuff on the off chance they simply didn't realise that the word had that affect on black people. Clearly most of the people here do know but choose not to care and I can't change that.

 

[mike]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

You do realise that genetically there is no such thing a race. It’s totally made up concept. By playing the race card you are actually perpetuating the nonsense.

Look dude, you and everyone else here can continue to live your lives and do as you please. I really don't care. I understand how the term hurts black people when it's used the way that it was used here and I will attempt to educate someone on this stuff on the off chance they simply didn't realise that the word had that affect on black people. Clearly most of the people here do know but choose not to care and I can't change that.

Who are black people? I’ve never noticed.

 

[facepalmer]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

You do realise that genetically there is no such thing a race. It’s totally made up concept. By playing the race card you are actually perpetuating the nonsense.

Look dude, you and everyone else here can continue to live your lives and do as you please. I really don't care. I understand how the term hurts black people when it's used the way that it was used here and I will attempt to educate someone on this stuff on the off chance they simply didn't realise that the word had that affect on black people. Clearly most of the people here do know but choose not to care and I can't change that.

Who are black people? I’ve never noticed.

Congratulations on being enlightened. Unfortunately most black people are still extremely aware of the colour of their skin because the world forces them to be.

 

[4jtigers]

The word thug is a race baiting term. If you don't mean anything racial by it just don't use it. Simple. You can google as much information on the subject as you want te educate yourself. The connotation is what it is and if you don't want to come across racially insensitive just don't use the term. There is no need to come out swinging when someone merely attempts to clue you in that the term has racial connotation.

I would have thought on a forum where people get banned for mild swears that this sentiment would get more support. Particularly given we support a club that is branding itself as inclusive to indigenous people.

My only problem with your post is in the first sentence. When you say a word IS something what does that mean? Does it have that meaning and several others? Or is it mutually exclusive with all other meanings? **Or does it have that meaning when applied in a certain context, which in guessing is what you mean here.**

However, that word is a reasonable English word to describe Latrell Mitchell on the field, perhaps the single best word that won't get you banned here. So while I do appreciate the extra context you provide, and will be more careful how I use that word, I disagree that anyone has used the word with even the slightest implication or Latrell being reprehensible because of his race, only for his actions.

It is overwhelmingly commonly used when describing black people. If Nathan Brown did this people would call him a grub. Black guy does it they're a thug.

**I've stated what I've stated on the subject I'm not going to preach to anyone.** Change or don't, the world is changing around us.

And yet you keep coming back with this nonsense. Ive spent over 50years on the planet and NEVER seen it used in that context. The Oxford dictionary doesnt recognise it but you point to one lefty critical race theory article and we should all change?


Your experience is not a reflection of 7 billion other peoples sir. You don't need to get upset at having your worldview challenged either. I am not asking you to do anything but reconsider the way using certain words in certain contexts make others feel. There is nothing to get upset by and no reason to attack me for it. If you have any actual interest in trying to understand the lived experience of black people as opposed to just flatly refusing to accept my perspective on account of your own that's fine. But if you are actually interested in challenging yourself here are several links to click. Happy to discuss further if you are interested in a conversation rather than hurling insults at me.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy
https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5004736/
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/thug-tupac-racism-language-reappropriation-20190417.html
https://theconversation.com/thugs-is-a-race-code-word-that-fuels-anti-black-racism-100312
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-52892949
https://www.tampabay.com/news/tampa/2020/06/04/tampa-city-council-members-weigh-in-on-protests/
https://www.newsweek.com/brief-history-word-thug-326595
https://www.ebony.com/news/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504/
https://www.lensshift.org/library/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug
https://www.upworthy.com/10-common-phrases-that-are-actually-racist-af
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=thug+racist+term

You do realise that genetically there is no such thing a race. It’s totally made up concept. By playing the race card you are actually perpetuating the nonsense.

Look dude, you and everyone else here can continue to live your lives and do as you please. I really don't care. I understand how the term hurts black people when it's used the way that it was used here and I will attempt to educate someone on this stuff on the off chance they simply didn't realise that the word had that affect on black people. Clearly most of the people here do know but choose not to care and I can't change that.

if you don't care then why do you keep at it - stop playing the race card geez... again a thug is a thug - skin colour doesn't matter

 

[hobbo1]

Stop feeding the Troll

 

[4jtigers]

Stop feeding the Troll

sorry boss :grin:

 

[facepalmer]

Stop feeding the Troll

I'm a troll?

 

[mike]

Stop feeding the Troll

Yeah I should know better.

 

[The_Patriot]

Troll is a very racists word.

It offends small people lmao.

 

[facepalmer]


 

[Geo]

What about Twerp...Latrell is a twerp..is that OK..

 

[hobbo1]

Stop feeding the Troll

I'm a troll?

Yes a Troll
Go join a woman’s weekly forum

 

[facepalmer]

Stop feeding the Troll

I'm a troll?

Yes a Troll
Go join a woman’s weekly forum

Oh I am a paid up member of that forum actually. But thank you for the advice.

 

[facepalmer]

What about Twerp...Latrell is a twerp..is that OK..

Obviously.