An interesting comment he made in the presser when asked if he would persist with the young fellas is that he would pick the team each week based on the game plan which I took to mean depending on who we were playing.
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W.Boland_c
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I was also surprised at many the kicks on fifth. High, long bombs straight to their back three (mainly Rapana)- Galvin, Sullivan and Sezer all doing it. Just allowed them to get rolling quickly on their return set which back footed us. Corners and grass next week would be my request. On the flipside, grubbers in the red zone were almost all very good.
Love_the_WestsTigers
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I don’t think the coach can do that, only winning will inspire confidence
supercoach
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Our defensive line after the initial first few sets stops moving up. So we were always on the retreat, rather than moving up and trying to smash their attack. This is caused by not being able to slow the play the ball down and not being able to apply any defensive pressure.
Anyway our defensive line becomes a rabble when the scrambling defence breaks down and then it’s one way traffic. Forget the attack for now, it’s all about implementing a defensive structure that can withstand pressure without crumbling. The big question do we have the players capable of defending at the required level???
Anyway our defensive line becomes a rabble when the scrambling defence breaks down and then it’s one way traffic. Forget the attack for now, it’s all about implementing a defensive structure that can withstand pressure without crumbling. The big question do we have the players capable of defending at the required level???
krissy
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The club needs to quit buying other clubs cast offs, there is a reason the clubs cut them loose, they are not good enough, ditto for the UK super league, it is where players who are past it go to get some $$$ before they retire from the game.
The high bombs are ok if they are well placed and we have chasers arriving with the ball.
Problem was none of our players were within cooee when the ball came down... giving them plenty of time to get into stride by the time our lazy blokes finally did arrive.
Apart from Api and a few others we had no urgency in defence.
How hard is it not to be fired up for the first game?
So my thoughts the next day. Sorry, it’s a long read…
As per last year, we got creamed in the possession stats. It ended 55/45 and they had 5 minutes more ball. We won’t beat a good team on those numbers. Some of that was down to poor errors and handling, some of it was down to some calls that went against us. I think there were three or four times where they dropped the ball but retained possession through a penalty or a challenge. Canberra, generally speaking, are a high completion team. We completed at 81% which given we haven’t played for 3 weeks and were chasing the game, wasn’t awful.
Of course we were out run in raw metres because they had more ball but the metres per set were pretty much dead even. They had six line breaks to our four which again in the context of our possession stats isn’t terrible. Attack in their 20 was not good enough again.
Missed tackles were 36 for us 24 for them. Still too many but by 2023 standards and the possession they had, not disastrous. Online defence I thought was pretty good.
Penalties were 13-7 for Canberra. Set restarts were 3-0. So overall a 16-7 infringement stat. I really don’t think the game I watched justifies those figures.
We conceded 5 tries:
1. Canberra backline move, line break on our defensive right. Toa falls off a tackle, Staines is too low to prevent offload but had to quickly adjust. Pass may have been forward. Yoss blames Starford Toa. Dishonourable mentions to Sullivan who was slow moving over, Staines for not being strong enough in his tackle and Seyfarth who, even though Bula has the person with the ball covered, decided to leave the inside guy uncovered to come across to the guy with the ball.
2. Fogerty steps through our goal line defence. Disappointing but it happens too much to us. Bulla and Seyfarth missed tackles, Seyfarth had a decent shot and comes up short. I blame Seyfarth.
3. Last tackle play. It’s actually a really nice play by Canberra. Galvin makes a great tackle on their back rower but he makes a nice offload. Faataape gets caught in no man’s land a bit but I find it hard to blame him completely.
4. Bud Sullivan forgets how to play rugby league. I blame Sullivan.
5. They score from a bomb. Galvin is closest but should he really be relied upon to defuse bombs? Good kick and catch. Not sure who I blame, probably nobody.
Forwards: Pole had 121m. Seyfarth had 16 off one run in 22 minutes. Most of them were ok but got to stop guys walking for 10m.
Galvin, Pole, Api were very good.
Sullivan and Seyfarth were poor,
As per last year, we got creamed in the possession stats. It ended 55/45 and they had 5 minutes more ball. We won’t beat a good team on those numbers. Some of that was down to poor errors and handling, some of it was down to some calls that went against us. I think there were three or four times where they dropped the ball but retained possession through a penalty or a challenge. Canberra, generally speaking, are a high completion team. We completed at 81% which given we haven’t played for 3 weeks and were chasing the game, wasn’t awful.
Of course we were out run in raw metres because they had more ball but the metres per set were pretty much dead even. They had six line breaks to our four which again in the context of our possession stats isn’t terrible. Attack in their 20 was not good enough again.
Missed tackles were 36 for us 24 for them. Still too many but by 2023 standards and the possession they had, not disastrous. Online defence I thought was pretty good.
Penalties were 13-7 for Canberra. Set restarts were 3-0. So overall a 16-7 infringement stat. I really don’t think the game I watched justifies those figures.
We conceded 5 tries:
1. Canberra backline move, line break on our defensive right. Toa falls off a tackle, Staines is too low to prevent offload but had to quickly adjust. Pass may have been forward. Yoss blames Starford Toa. Dishonourable mentions to Sullivan who was slow moving over, Staines for not being strong enough in his tackle and Seyfarth who, even though Bula has the person with the ball covered, decided to leave the inside guy uncovered to come across to the guy with the ball.
2. Fogerty steps through our goal line defence. Disappointing but it happens too much to us. Bulla and Seyfarth missed tackles, Seyfarth had a decent shot and comes up short. I blame Seyfarth.
3. Last tackle play. It’s actually a really nice play by Canberra. Galvin makes a great tackle on their back rower but he makes a nice offload. Faataape gets caught in no man’s land a bit but I find it hard to blame him completely.
4. Bud Sullivan forgets how to play rugby league. I blame Sullivan.
5. They score from a bomb. Galvin is closest but should he really be relied upon to defuse bombs? Good kick and catch. Not sure who I blame, probably nobody.
Forwards: Pole had 121m. Seyfarth had 16 off one run in 22 minutes. Most of them were ok but got to stop guys walking for 10m.
Galvin, Pole, Api were very good.
Sullivan and Seyfarth were poor,
twentyforty
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If you wait for a favourable scoreboard to regain your confidence, then you’re waiting a long time. The coach should be looking for the small wins and heaping praise and positive feedback. Youre right that winning a game or positive benchmarking is often a reinforcement and can provide a confidence boost, but can we wait for that?
I think our problem is moreso lack of experience. We have one player who has played more than 60 games in a Tigers jersey and he is off injured.
Against Dragons we missed 39 tackles in the first 40min, likewise against Raiders we missed 24 in the first 40min. What does that tell you?
100% Iron Fist.
Our talent identification & recruitment is absolutely abysmal, and has been for years. Forget Luai, Api, & Ice. Any fool can identify existing high performers outside the club. Who was the last "unknown" we scouted that worked out?
The-moP
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Can't wait for fit Latu Fainu to step up .. someone who has a step and speed off the make around the ruck that can created something out of nothing .. !!
Does that make Sullivan and Staines the Bidens? Wandering around aimlessly because they forgot what they were supposed to be doing? Not tackling anyone just holding them long enough to sniff their hair......
Tucker
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He is becoming vital to this season.
No pressure…,
Tucker
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Pole?…Bula?.
Not too many that’s for sure.
ancient_magpie
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Last year Sullivan had the step and speed off yhe mark wheres it gone ?.
ancient_magpie
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Very clever Pat they need to get angry like Biden.
Tucker
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Good question.
Surely Benji hasn’t told a free running spirit like himself to reign it in?
AmericanHistoryX
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Biden on drugs.
ancient_magpie
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Thats the lnly way hes still upright.
Great post.
Yes we had a lot of issues in our own game, but all the points you raise made it very hard.
Let’s hope our fans get behind the team particularly in our home games and ensure the refs don’t get away with this crap without plenty of hostility to keep them in check.
The Sharks are a top side and will be extremely hard to beat, but surely the players and fans will be up for the contest on a Saturday night at Leichhardt.
It’s a massive game as another heavy loss will just further send the negative and any hope of renewed confidence into a downward spiral, a win will surprise most but will do wonders for the teams confidence moving forward.
Not an impossible task, let’s hope for a big turn around.
AmericanHistoryX
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And let's hope our team get behind the fans
