Stefano Utoikamanu #241

@tiga4eva said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085655) said:
@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.



@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.

But we didn't, because we're run by fools. So we released Matterson and Marsters early and can't even sign an U20s player. Tell me how great our administration is again


Go away, we really don’t need supporters like you.
 
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them
 
@In_Like_Flynn said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085657) said:
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them

Well maybe we should have some backbone and not release players prematurely? If we had have held out from releasing Matterson we could have used that as a bargaining chip. But we didn't, so here we are. Again.
 
@colinbh said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085656) said:
@tiga4eva said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085655) said:
@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.



@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.

But we didn't, because we're run by fools. So we released Matterson and Marsters early and can't even sign an U20s player. Tell me how great our administration is again


Go away, we really don’t need supporters like you.

Why?
Because I expect competency from our leaders. Was Parra NOT releasing this kid a "favourable outcome" in us giving them Matterson immediately?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085658) said:
@In_Like_Flynn said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085657) said:
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them

Well maybe we should have some backbone and not release players prematurely? If we had have held out from releasing Matterson we could have used that as a bargaining chip. But we didn't, so here we are. Again.


The NRL needs to bring in mandatory contract completion for both players and clubs
 
Apparently they offered him 3 different contract upgrades in the last month or so and he still chose to sign with us so hopefully can resist a few more, hopefully. 😅
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085669) said:
What's the chances of them pressuring him through the year to backflip? Very high me thinks.

He didn't stay with tehm as they keep signing senior props like RCG, Paulo etc and they already have a number of props on their roster. We're light on props and could even be on the bench in round one. The only way they could entice himtos stay is to release 2-3 of their more senior props!
 
@tiga4eva said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085655) said:
@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.



@Tiger_2795 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085649) said:
Parra are scum, we should’ve held on to matto till this was done and made it a swap/ release for release. I’m sure paying an extra couple of weeks of wages would be better than what’s probably about to unfold.

But we didn't, because we're run by fools. So we released Matterson and Marsters early and can't even sign an U20s player. Tell me how great our administration is again


Yes...agreed.

We have given teams a NZ int plus a NSW 18th man...

And yet can't even grab a dev contract player back in the deal. We had to keep Matterson another month for leverage. He was refusing to train, so we would not have even had to pay him / fines.

If we still had him, we could have swapped for this kid easily.

We helped Parramatta ...now they won't help us.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085658) said:
@In_Like_Flynn said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085657) said:
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them

Well maybe we should have some backbone and not release players prematurely? If we had have held out from releasing Matterson we could have used that as a bargaining chip. But we didn't, so here we are. Again.


Yeah thats the spirit!!!! Of course that would have meant that we couldnt have made an offer to Latrell, couldnt have signed Leilua or been involved in the player market, but yeah, we taught Matterson a lesson and looked like tough guys. Shame the player culture has taken a nose dive and there is unrest between the whole player group, but doesnt matter because we feel like tough guys.
 
Haven't the Tigers already signed him for 2021 with the only matter in dispute being whether Parra release him for the 2020 season or have I got this wrong??
 
@innsaneink said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085678) said:
So we've missed this guy now?
Like Fiji Reggie's?
Like Latrell?
I'm seeing a pattern

Missed for 2020, for now. He’s signed to us from 2021. If they want to spend 2020 developing a kid who will be gone the year after, let them. Shows what idiots they are.
 
@innsaneink said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085678) said:
So we've missed this guy now?
Like Fiji Reggie's?
Like Latrell?
I'm seeing a pattern


Nope, signed for 2021 which is all the club signed up for. Some of the usual suspects are bleating that something that was never going to happen hasnt happened but it doesnt take much to pull that trigger.
 
@Glenn5150 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085688) said:
@innsaneink said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085678) said:
So we've missed this guy now?
Like Fiji Reggie's?
Like Latrell?
I'm seeing a pattern


Nope, signed for 2021 which is all the club signed up for. Some of the usual suspects are bleating that something that was never going to happen hasnt happened but it doesnt take much to pull that trigger.

Good one. Thanks for the laugh. Still laughing
 
@Glenn5150 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085685) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085658) said:
@In_Like_Flynn said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085657) said:
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them

Well maybe we should have some backbone and not release players prematurely? If we had have held out from releasing Matterson we could have used that as a bargaining chip. But we didn't, so here we are. Again.


Yeah thats the spirit!!!! Of course that would have meant that we couldnt have made an offer to Latrell, couldnt have signed Leilua or been involved in the player market, but yeah, we taught Matterson a lesson and looked like tough guys. Shame the player culture has taken a nose dive and there is unrest between the whole player group, but doesnt matter because we feel like tough guys.

If Bellamy was in charge do you think he would have released Matterson with nothing in return? Of course he wouldn’t have.

Ps we didn’t get Mitchell so moot point, and DT reporting we’ve signed LL on $400k a year, which is WAY overs.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085690) said:
@Glenn5150 said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085685) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085658) said:
@In_Like_Flynn said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085657) said:
@Snake said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085653) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Wests Tigers snare teen tyro Utoikamanu\.\.\.](/post/1085652) said:
The kid needs to go to the Players association for assistance. Denying him the right to sign a professional contract, support his family out of spite for us is very wrong. It has nothing to do with the player, and everything to do with us.
We even gave them Matto for free and now they won't release a 19 year old who's currently their 7th choice at prop?

This just again shows what a grubby club they are !


They have at least 4 of our players at the moment (Ray Stone, Moses, Brown and Matterson) possible others I can't remember

But I wouldn't expect anything different from them

Well maybe we should have some backbone and not release players prematurely? If we had have held out from releasing Matterson we could have used that as a bargaining chip. But we didn't, so here we are. Again.


Yeah thats the spirit!!!! Of course that would have meant that we couldnt have made an offer to Latrell, couldnt have signed Leilua or been involved in the player market, but yeah, we taught Matterson a lesson and looked like tough guys. Shame the player culture has taken a nose dive and there is unrest between the whole player group, but doesnt matter because we feel like tough guys.

If Bellamy was in charge do you think he would have released Matterson with nothing in return? Of course he wouldn’t have.

Ps we didn’t get Mitchell so moot point, and DT reporting we’ve signed LL on $400k a year, which is WAY overs.

We don’t need anything in return from Parra, just the money that was freed up by Matterson. Mitchell hasn’t worked out, so we move on to the next fish.
 

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