Steve Folkes Joins Wests Tigers !!

[Sabre]

I don't know about Folkes , have we forgotten he was head coach @ the Dogs during 2 of the biggest scandels ever to ever hit rugby league.
Coffs and the Salary cap
Head Coach I'd rather not.

And $BW leaving

 

[Balmain_Bug]

I don't know about Folkes , have we forgotten he was head coach @ the Dogs during 2 of the biggest scandels ever to ever hit rugby league.
Coffs and the Salary cap
Head Coach I'd rather not.

And $BW leaving

Well would you accept Wayne Bennet ???
Builders and developers in QLD have given evidence in Parlimentry enquiries saying that the bronco's players were paid under the table to stay at the club for years 9and It was swept under the table when exposed). Their players have been exposed in scandel adversley involving women as well.

To blame Steve Folkes for those incidents is a cheap cop out.

 

[tigh]

Folkes' style of coaching is the old school way. I don't think that will work at the Tigers - it would be Sheens x 10

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Folkes' style of coaching is the old school way. I don't think that will work at the Tigers - it would be Sheens x 10

Give an example of Old school.

 

[Torbizlo]

Folkes' style of coaching is the old school way. I don't think that will work at the Tigers - it would be Sheens x 10

Give an example of Old school.

im thinking old school meaning forwards grinding it out up the middle all game long.
new school is the tigers flamboyant style when even the forwards are throwing cut out passes.

 

[tiger_tigers]

Does anyone know if Folkes has any specific qualifications for the role? Im sure he's picked up a lot over the years and is still regarded as being very fit, but in this day and age, a head trainer needs modern qualifications that are acquired through some form of study.

the guy revolutionised rugby league fitness….he and junior pearce led the way in the 80s and the others followed....id imagine he would have picked up a few pointers being involved in international cricket.....front rowers used to be 120 kg of fat...now they are 110 kg of muscle.... folkesy lives and breathes rugby league ... and imo will be the breathe of fresh air the place needs ....

 

[Glennb]

If Kearney doesnt want the Souths gig,then the only credible choice is Folkes…unless u persuade Sheens to do a "Brian Smith" & bail out to Souths unless Tigers offer a long term contract NOW!
The fact that yet another "chief" in Folkes is appointed (in addition to Sheens,Royce & Gentles)smells like a succession plan to me..only question is timing

I fully support Sheens and besides what the narrow minded small thinking bashers here think, I think he should be retained **BUT** he should not be offered a long term contract NOW. Next year really will be make or break and I'm sure he knows this as well.

Glenn

 

[clontarfkid]

It wld make complete sense for the Tigers to hold Sheens to his 2010 contract & make a decision on the future based on next seasons results.
We need time to ascertain whether this years "potential" translates to on field results(ie wins )or whether we just make up the numbers like the past four seasons.
A contract is just that,& a true professional like Sheens should honour it
But if any coach is offered the security of a long term tenure elsewhere at high $$,you really cant blame him (particularly at Sheens & Brian Smiths age)for attempting to secure their future & wriggle out of his final year.
We need some strong management Mr Humphries…

 

[Muffstar]

I maybe wrong here but the last coaching jobs Sheens and Simmons had did their respective clubs come last and also Folkes last year ? If so that would make 3 NRL coaches at the Tigers who had the wooden spoon before joining us ?

 

[senexx]

I think Sheens will go at the end of 2010 regardless of results and I wouldn't complain about Folkes stepping into the role after that (since he will have had some time with the club and team) and that's what I think will happen.

 

[magpiecol]

Folkes' style of coaching is the old school way. I don't think that will work at the Tigers - it would be Sheens x 10

Give an example of Old school.

im thinking old school meaning forwards grinding it out up the middle all game long.
new school is the tigers flamboyant style when even the forwards are throwing cut out passes.

The "new" style looks great. I would like to see how it goes in the semi's. Maybe in another 4 years we can look forward to seeing it!

 

[TigersFan4Life]

im thinking old school meaning forwards grinding it out up the middle all game long.
new school is the tigers flamboyant style when even the forwards are throwing cut out passes.

And where has that gotten us for the last four years?

 

[Colonel]

Looks like Folkes will be staying with us next season:

**South Sydney sacks Jason Taylor
Brent Read and Peter Kogoy | September 17, 2009**
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SOUTH Sydney has sacked coach Jason Taylor over his behaviour at the NRL club's end of season celebrations.
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The decision will be confirmed at a press conference later this afternoon.
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It is understood premiership-winning coach John Lang, who was on staff as the football manager _ has been appointed to replace Taylor.
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The Rabbitohs held a board meeting this morning at which the decision to replace Taylor was made.
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Last night, co-owner Russell Crowe held talks with Souths chief executive Shane Richardson, chairman Nick Pappas and NRL chief executive David Gallop at his 320-hectare property in the Coffs Harbour hinterland.
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Richardson and Pappas returned to Sydney this morning, after which board members discussed the situation before deciding Taylor’s time was up.
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Taylor’s dismissal comes as no shock. He was widely expected to be sacked after being punched by one of his players _ David Fa'alogo _ during the club's end-of-season celebrations at a Sydney hotel.
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In a statement issued earlier today, Taylor said he believed he had been treated unfairly and vowed to defend his honour.
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“I refer to the much publicised incident involving me and David Fa'alogo at Forrester's Hotel on 6 September 2009,” Taylor said.
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“My attendance at Forrester's was expressly approved by the club.
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“I was never told I should not attend and no time restrictions were ever put on my attendance.
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“I drank responsibly at Forrester's. I was not intoxicated.
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“I have three independent witness statements from Forrester's bar and security staff that confirm this.
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“Along with players (including David Fa'alogo), I engaged in pretend, light-weight, kung-fu play. David was a willing participant in the play encounter that directly preceded the incident.
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“My actions at Forrester's and since have not brought the Club into disrepute and I did not breach my contract of employment or any code of conduct.
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“I deeply regret the impact that this has brought to my family, the players, the members and the Club.
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“I believe that I have been treated unfairly by the Club, I will be taking the matter further and doing all I can to defend my honour and clear my good name.”
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Taylor’s manager Wayne Beavis and his legal representatives insisted he had done nothing wrong.
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Taylor and manager Wayne Beavis were bunkered down with lawyers at an undisclosed location in Sydney's CBD within minutes of his sacking leaked out to the media.
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"We're with solicitors at present. I'll maker a statement about Jason Taylor's sacking in due course,'' Beavis told The Australian.
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The prospects of Lang taking the job firmed when former North Queensland Cowbows coach Graham Murray said this afternoon he had not had any contact with Souths.
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"I'm happy working as the operations manager for the Townsville Rugby League,'' Murray said.
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"The only contact I've had is from (ex-player) Dean Rampling about a Rabbitoh reunion on the Friday before the grand final.''

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26086689-2722,00.html

 

[pacey]

i think its good & bad

GOOD
if we get off to a bad season they now have the ability to sack Sheens & put Folkes in Head Coach for the rest of the season.

BAD
Folkes can get in bad relationships with players
How many dogs players left on bad terms

 

[westTAHger]

it will be interesting to see how the players perfom, fitness wise, with Steve Folkes there.
we wanted change, now its happended, he may have some fresh ideas.

 

[innsaneink]

If this plays out the way I think it will, then it can only (hopefully) be a good thing.

Folkes gets to know whats what for a season without the pressure of being head coach, and Sheens gets to leave after fulfilling his contract, dignity and ego intact.

I find it hard to believe Folkes would accept such a lower position than what he's held for more than a decade, without a position more deserving someone of his reputation and stature being held for him in the long run.

 

[anderson_silva]

If this plays out the way I think it will, then it can only (hopefully) be a good thing.

Folkes gets to know whats what for a season without the pressure of being head coach, and Sheens gets to leave after fulfilling his contract, dignity and ego intact.

I find it hard to believe Folkes would accept such a lower position than what he's held for more than a decade, without a position more deserving someone of his reputation and stature being held for him in the long run.

this is my thinking aswell, and ive said it in previous posts.

Sheens will retire from club football next year to focus soley on coaching australia, his family live in NTH QLD still and this will allow him to go back there more often, folkes appointment like you said seems a bit "beneath" him, he will build a relationship with the current squad during next year and get to know the ins and outs of the club.

Folkes is a proven coach with a fantastic record, people on here have said his theories are to old, but we have run with "modern" theories the last 4 years and got nothing for it.

His record speakes for itself, 1 premiership and 8 finals appearences in 11 years as coach of the bulldogs, you just dont fluke that type of consistancy.

Im suddenly more hopeful about the next 2-3 years

 

[TripleB]

i think its good & bad

GOOD
if we get off to a bad season they now have the ability to sack Sheens & put Folkes in Head Coach for the rest of the season.

BAD
Folkes can get in bad relationships with players
How many dogs players left on bad terms

Yes, folkes can get in bad relationships with players, but most of those players were geese… weren't they? (Mason, Maitua, $BW)

I could be wrong though (wouldn't be the first time and certainly not the last)...

 

[Balmain_Bug]

i think its good & bad

GOOD
if we get off to a bad season they now have the ability to sack Sheens & put Folkes in Head Coach for the rest of the season.

BAD
Folkes can get in bad relationships with players
How many dogs players left on bad terms

Your kidding !!!! bad relationships with players ???? Those players are hardly cornerstones of the community. Steve Folkes is a person of the highest integrity !! Do not blame him for the trouble the 'Bra Boys' faction caused at the Bulldogs.

 

[stryker]

If Kearney doesnt want the Souths gig,then the only credible choice is Folkes…unless u persuade Sheens to do a "Brian Smith" & bail out to Souths unless Tigers offer a long term contract NOW!
The fact that yet another "chief" in Folkes is appointed (in addition to Sheens,Royce & Gentles)smells like a succession plan to me..only question is timing

I fully support Sheens and besides what the narrow minded small thinking bashers here think, I think he should be retained **BUT** he should not be offered a long term contract NOW. Next year really will be make or break and I'm sure he knows this as well.

Glenn

Give yourself an uppercut Glenn, thats just a pathetic call. The bloke has murdered our performances for four years now by picking players out of position CONSTANTLY.
Folkes will bring a level of professionalism through his stringent fitness regimes and no nonsense approach that this club sorely needs.
We will be kicking up a gear in the back end of games and that is something I would love to see.

As for the reasoning by some that Folkes doesn't get along with some players look at the list. Williams biggest whinge was that Folkes told him not to spend all his time hanging around Mundine - wow that sort of advice should be handed out to every kid in Australia.