Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

[innsaneink]

Here here, you're 100% spot on wt..."in fact, I'd say most Balmain fans were pretty happy about being able to hold onto the Tigers name"[and colours] "it's the Magpies that were shafted in that regard". In other words, the Magpies lost 'their' name 'and' colours.

Just as I said in a post yesterday "THE MAGPIES LOST THEIR SOUL", and now it seems to me there is a push on to take away anything and everything that the Magpies have left.

And again, as I said yesterday the Magpies were left with owning 90% of WT's but in reality, that means zilch as you can't own 90% of a lost soul = 90% of nothing.

Wests Magpies didn't just gift Balmain 10% of the WT's, they gifted Balmain the whole friggin club.

And that's what I was conveying to cochise back in 2019 and he has put 💩 on me ever since.
My words to him then as I have already stated... "Balmain were vanquished due to owning only 10% of the club, while Wests Magpies were the victor in owning 90%, but it seemed to me like Balmain was the victor at the time as the Magpies had lost their soul".

A short while after my post in 2019 I did admit to using a bad choice of words which to a very staunch Balmain follower and Wests Magpies hater, may have sounded inflammatory, but the meaning of my words and the outcome that exists still today, is exactly the same.

You need to find the cemetery with the Magpies grave and go there.... Grieve.
No point you being here... I don't know why you are
Do you fully support Wests Tigers?
Yes or no will do.

 

[jadtiger]

Would we accept being able to select our spine from a random pool of 20 state cup players?

Then why do we accept it for our board?

You are generous calling HBG state cup players,i rate them more as drunken park footballers after demolishing the goalposts on the field

 

[innsaneink]

I could draw you a picture if it would help you understand.

I'd love a picture.
This is me below trying to work out our board

 

[Tom Shines]

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BZN

You are so right. Wests Tigers must be completely unrecognizable to any former Magpies fans. I mean, who could possibly connect the dots between the "Wests" in the name, the Magpie proudly sitting on the shoulders of the sleeves, and the black and white incorporated into the colors? Clearly, we've abandoned everything about the Magpies legacy. 🙄

But hey, don't let a few obvious nods to history stop the narrative that we’ve erased it all. It's not like the club merged two histories to honour both or anything... oh, wait....

my favorite part? Given you have obviousely been keeping score since the merger, your (Wests Magpies) 90% ownership of the club, run by "Wests Magpies" debenture holders has generously given Wests Tigers a clown show administation that is 100% responsible for the last three wooden spoons. That’s true selflessness—letting everyone ignore the fact that both sides of the JV were struggling long before the merger.

Clearly, Wests Magpies were on the cusp of a dynasty back then.

Thank goodness the Wests Tigers came along and saved you from so much success!

Nice post

Expect a heavy dose of Benny Elias, the Blue Wiggle and Garry Leo in the response

 

[BAGNF05]

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Nice post

Expect a heavy dose of Benny Elias, the Blue Wiggle and Garry Leo in the response

Is this a game of who you wouldn’t want to go to dinner party with?

 

[Tom Shines]

Is this a game of who you wouldn’t want to go to dinner party with?

I think it’s a game similar to when someone puts their hand in your pocket trying to steal your wallet , but at the same times shouts and points to “look over there!”

 

[twentyforty]

I was thinking last night do we really need or want a board? Why not just have 1 chairman and Richo as CEO and they just work together less people to have to deal with way easier to get things done. I understand there would be issues if the CEO wasn’t as experienced as Richo.

You make a good point finnzo. WT has pretty much been operating without a board for the last 12 months and they’ve achieved at the same level as the previous 12 months.

 

[Tom Shines]

You make a good point finnzo. WT has pretty much been operating without a board for the last 12 months and they’ve achieved at the same level as the previous 12 months.

They still ran last right ….so you can’t say things improved either …but it’s a moot point anyway as we know they have still had a board operating ..

who do you think the fatties had to front when they showed up to preseason a little bit porky ?

Wonder if Burgess gave them a dressing down ..” you are professionals and you have to act better than this..”

 

[shiretiger]

You don't show any empathy or compassion for your Magpie brothers do you ST.
Old dinosaur Magpie followers like me lost our identity with the JV.
And you want to winge about something that happened 20 years ago to an old dinosaur feeling sad about a tiny Magpie on the jersey being the only meaningful recognition of the team he followed for the previous 30 or 40 years.
He at least wasn't so one eyed that he refused to go and watch the Tigers play.

Mate, I show 100% empathy and respect when I rock up to the game in my WESTS Tigers jersey, not my Balmain jersey.

What do you require me to do? Get down on my knees at the front gate of Campbelltown and say three hail Tommy Raudonikis's before I enter? Or should it be to Noel Kelly or Arthur Summons's? Tell me please.

Perhaps Wests Tigers need to have a crusty old dinosaur like yourself (self identified) whilst wearing a Western Suburbs jersey with Victa emblazoned across the chest perform a Western Suburbs version of a Welcome to Country ceremony before each home game, you know I acknowledge past, present and future Magpie legends or some variation of this. I'd love to sit through that. Definitely unifying and uplifting. Much better than that stupid Viking clap that the Raiders do.

I didn't whinge Old Mate, I only provided one perspective why this whole stupid and tiresome argument is still happening in 2024.

My father was born and bred Balmain Tiger, his best man and my Godfather was a born and bred Western Suburbs man. Please dont try to lecture me on the subject of empathy, compassion and respect.

Build a bridge Champ and get over it. Western Suburbs aren't coming back, neither is Balmain and anyone born since 1999 doesn't know, or cares, about either of them.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

PB...the Balmain people don't need to return to Tigers. They have that name covered already in Wests Tigers, but how many people do you know that follow a reserve grade side and how many people do you know that put up the Wests chant when the Tigers are playing.
Wests Magpies have very little soul left and people on here want to take that a step further and delete the name from reserve grade and every other grade as well 😡.
Zero care or consideration shown by those people Imo.

Nah.

It's actually a lack of consideration from folks who are so desparate to cling to the past even though it causes a detriment to the Wests Tigers of today.

It would be beneficial for the club to have a single identity throughout all the grades. Kids coming through have no connection to foundation clubs that ceased to exist 25 years ago. Most if not all of our first grade squad probably have zero memories of either (terrible) club even existing in the ARL.

Christ, I'm 'middle aged' and I've been supporting Wests Tigers for far longer than I supported Balmain. It's time to move on - It was time to move on decades ago.

Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers should both cease to exist outside of efforts to ensure collections of historical records and photos/media are maintained; hopefully Richo makes this happen during his tenure.

 

[twentyforty]

You don't show any empathy or compassion for your Magpie brothers do you ST.
Old dinosaur Magpie followers like me lost our identity with the JV.
And you want to winge about something that happened 20 years ago to an old dinosaur feeling sad about a tiny Magpie on the jersey being the only meaningful recognition of the team he followed for the previous 30 or 40 years.
He at least wasn't so one eyed that he refused to go and watch the Tigers play.

Gee mate, that 40 years has been pretty rough for you huh? 10 spoons and only 1 premiership, which was diluted somewhat because of the Tiger. I know you’re saying you lost your identity 6 years before that GF win, but c’mon, you sure didn’t party like the rest of us? 😉

 

[batboy]

Gee mate, that 40 years has been pretty rough for you huh? 10 spoons and only 1 premiership, which was diluted somewhat because of the Tiger. I know you’re saying you lost your identity 6 years before that GF win, but c’mon, you sure didn’t party like the rest of us? 😉

C'Mon man....
He lost his whole 'Identity'

Old Balmain fans got a Tiger to relate to,
Meanwhile - He doesn't know who or what he even is anymore...
Must be tough.

I'd like to know who his old username was,
haven't seen one of these 'Lost Identity' Ramblings in years....

There seems a select few have popped their head in constantly over the last few weeks
(Since the Board Stuff emerged)
And they reckon the Tigers fans are paranoid?

The Magpies own the Club, Fill it with imbeciles, Run it into the Ground and Balmain don't have 2 bob to rub together - yet the Old Magpies are still popping up here trying to instigate a Ruckus.

Go to a Wests Magpies Board Meeting seems to be plenty of squabbling over there to fill the cup with.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Self serving pricks. Seems like they actually hate the club.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Hearing rumours that the Magpie will be off the jersey in 2026 too?

 

[batboy]

Hearing rumours that the Magpie will be off the jersey in 2026 too?

😂😂😂
No, No....
What about the identity?

 

[twentyforty]

C'Mon man....
He lost his whole 'Identity'

Old Balmain fans got a Tiger to relate to,
Meanwhile - He doesn't know who or what he even is anymore...
Must be tough.

I'd like to know who his old username was,
haven't seen one of these 'Lost Identity' Ramblings in years....

There seems a select few have popped their head in constantly over the last few weeks
(Since the Board Stuff emerged)
And they reckon the Tigers fans are paranoid?

The Magpies own the Club, Fill it with imbeciles, Run it into the Ground and Balmain don't have 2 bob to rub together - yet the Old Magpies are still popping up here trying to instigate a Ruckus.

Go to a Wests Magpies Board Meeting seems to be plenty of squabbling over there to fill the cup with.

What I don’t understand is..it’s a lost identity right? It’s not identity theft.

 

[batboy]

What I don’t understand is..it’s a lost identity right? It’s not identity theft.

It is

Whatever they feel like telling you it is...

 

[twentyforty]

It is

Whatever they feel like telling you it is...

I’m a bit slow, I only just started to learn the pronouns after that woman got kicked off a passenger flight for not knowing them, then I find out we’re probably not gonna need to know them now?

 

[Lestronge]

C'Mon man....
He lost his whole 'Identity'

Old Balmain fans got a Tiger to relate to,
Meanwhile - He doesn't know who or what he even is anymore...
Must be tough.

I'd like to know who his old username was,
haven't seen one of these 'Lost Identity' Ramblings in years....

There seems a select few have popped their head in constantly over the last few weeks
(Since the Board Stuff emerged)
And they reckon the Tigers fans are paranoid?

The Magpies own the Club, Fill it with imbeciles, Run it into the Ground and Balmain don't have 2 bob to rub together - yet the Old Magpies are still popping up here trying to instigate a Ruckus.

Go to a Wests Magpies Board Meeting seems to be plenty of squabbling over there to fill the cup with.

Magpies1964

 

[jirskyr]

Names / symbols mean something to some people- as a person with bonds / memory of the Magpies and their symbol - the Magpie. Ive got no desire for the symbol to be at the NRL level but I'd like the Magpie to be at the KOE level. My preference.

People may recall I recently posted a suggestion we go further with the Outlaw / Bushranger theme / symbol to get over the symbolism of previous clubs- Tiger and Magpie. Im sorry but I feel at present if we get rid of the Magpie at KOE and its all Tiger, Ive lost something. Im not pressing, or wanting Magpie at NRL but whats wrong with giving a dog a bone with the Magpie at KOE level? If we loose the Magpie at KOE level I'd be really thinking about a new symbol- as I said I like the Bushranger. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.

AND back to the thread point, yes something has to be done about the Board and hold their feet to the fire until these 3 independents are announced and in place.

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What if we called it the "Balmain Magpies"? Does that satisfy the half you feel you are at risk of losing, but also then old Balmain supporters get the "Balmain" back?

For example in my position as an old Tiger, I love love the club's last Tiger logo and I'll never move on from that emotional attachment because it was formed in my childhood. I will never have quite that basic emotional attachment to the Wests Tiger logo because that was created when I was an adult, and even then it's already been modified twice since 2000.

But what can I do about my old club logos? The logo is demoted and Balmain is demoted and that's how it is, demoted to less than reserve grade, only to juniors and the Balmain junior district is already a Rorschach blot of Inner West and West Sydney. That's what I have accepted as the best outcome of the merge.

So why in fairness should half the merger keep their Wests Magpie in reserve grade? I understand your argument is because keeping the Tiger is potentially more meaningful to supporters than keeping the "Wests". That may be a fair comment. I would probably say the club colours too, though Tigers rarely play in predominantly orange and black/orange/white is highly complimentary in any combination.

But also on the other hand my old club is basically gone, with Balmain being first merged and then subsumed by Wests, such that it is given a vote in respect to the past, but with no other power, no assets. In which case there's then the argument that old Balmain fans have lost basically everything about their old club, only the Tiger truly remains in terms of the history, and some old Magpie fans want both Wests, and the magpie on the shoulder, and complete Boardroom control and complete Leagues Club control... as well as Wests Magpies retained in the reserve grade comp so they can still cling to the Magpie name, the black and white (only) jersey and the old Victa sponsorship.

Well honestly I don't see that as a fair 50/50 split and that's why I feel it should be Wests Tigers all the way down, and Balmain and Magpies can both be resigned to shirt sleeves and history. But I also respect that it's not an argument worth having, and it's not Wests' fault that Balmain ran out of money (it's the Labor State Govt's fault), and if some people really need to have the Maggies running around in the NSWRL then they can have it.