Chunk
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Yeah some good points but don't forget these guys are getting paid very well, so we should expect nothing less then 100%
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Yeah some good points but don't forget these guys are getting paid very well, so we should expect nothing less then 100%
jirskyr
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It's a bit lazy IMO to say Roosters are pro and Tigers are not, based on recent events.
Right now Roosters have 7 wins, we have 5. And apparently we are going badly and Roosters not so bad.
People in a hurry to credit the Dom Young release - so what? They kept him back a week or two. But they still signed him on a 4-year deal only to release him 1.5 seasons later, which is a bad deal for them. Lucky for Roosters that Knights want him back.
They signed Brandon Smith for 3 years and that's been a train wreck as well, another player let go. They let Verrills go to accommodate Cheese and it was a bad move.
They keep arsing about their current halves in vain hope of signing someone good and experienced, whilst continually losing Sam Walker to injury. He's just so small, I don't know what they expect. They signed Chad Townsend who is cooked.
Basically Roosters are still living on the elite capacity of Tedesco, who was one of the best signings this century and continues to play top football even as he clearly ages. Tedesco and Crichton are the backbone and their coach is very good.
What Roosters are very good at is finding and maintaining their roster. Almost without peer. How much of that is professionalism and how much is underhanded we can't say. They are a very well connected club and they are lucky they found a guy like Politis who is politically and financially connected, and has a huge personal investment in the club. You probably couldn't even tell me who the Roosters CEO actually is, so strongly guided by Politis they are. It's like having PVL work for your club. Tigers haven't had a person like that since last century, with that much clout and personal investment.
jirskyr
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Not sure why anyone cares the order of things? Either he stays or he goes, why does it matter who says it out loud first?
tig_prmz
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I respect your opinions but you are looking at it in isolation and like a lot of other times, you are being too "pro-Club" with this.
This has happened repetitively and without arguing each of the previous cases, it is undeniable that either the Club is "promising" the wrong thing or setting expectations which cannot be met. The Club isn't looking at player's motivations before signing them up for big contracts.
You are completely right that it is about their "personal brand" but that is Club wide, not limited to players.
The Club culture starts from the top and by releasing players without signing replacements or letting players go early without benefitting the team is the wrong mentality.
These decisions to let go of Klem, Bateman, TDS, Galvin etc will keep setting a precedent that you can request a release and we will let you go. I understand that you want to weed out those playes who don't put team first, but we shouldn't hire them in the first place. We need a stricter policing of the players we hire to the Top 30.
This is on the Club and it's administrators/ decision makers, this cannot always be the players/ player agents. This cannot just be "Oh, it didn't work out". The common denominator is us and we ned to change that.
Bigscreentv
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Credit for this one goes to Lincoln Hudson on Facebook. Couldn't agree more.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19kJCu6U42/
There’s been plenty of noise this week from so-called “Wests Tigers fan pages,” podcasts, and media outlets lining up to take a swing at Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall over Tallyn Da Silva’s release. Apparently, some people think one promising young hooker being granted permission to explore options elsewhere is the latest in a long line of Tigers stuff-ups.
Let’s be real, if you’re melting down over this, you’re either not paying attention to the club’s long-term strategy or you’re just looking for something to whinge about.
Here’s the truth: Apisai Koroisau is still playing elite-level football. He’s our captain, our general, and arguably our most consistent performer. You don’t force a future Hall of Famer out the door just to rush through a kid with potential. That’s exactly what Souths did with Adam Reynolds back in 2021, and how did that work out?
Let’s rewind for a second. Souths had their heart and soul in Reynolds, a leader, a premiership winner, and a big-game player. But they got spooked by his age, fell in love with potential, and backed Lachlan Ilias, a junior with wraps but far from ready. Since then, they’ve been stuck in neutral while Reynolds took Brisbane to a Grand Final. That’s not “building for the future”, that’s tripping over your own feet.
Now, some Tigers fans want to repeat history and move on from Api to fast-track TDS? Sorry, but no thanks.
Instead, the club has taken the smart route. Tallyn Da Silva is a talented player, no one’s denying that. But Jared Haywood is just as good, and in many ways, he’s a better fit. He’s about 18 months behind TDS in development, but his game is tailor-made for the modern dummy-half role. His service is razor-sharp, his footy IQ is through the roof, and his play style mirrors Api far more than TDS ever did.
Haywood has had a breakout 12 months:
• Captained the Balmain Tigers SG Ball Cup side
• Took Patrician Brothers Blacktown to the Schoolboys Grand Final
• Earned selection in the 2024 Australian Schoolboys squad
• Featured in the NRL Pre-Season Challenge
• Signed his maiden NRL deal through to 2028, joining the Top 30 in 2027
That’s not just talent, that’s a foundation being built the right way.
So let’s call it for what it is: Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall made a calculated call based on football smarts, not emotion. Richardson extended the better long-term option. He put his trust in Benji, a premiership-winning half who understands what kind of hooker best suits his spine, and Benji picked Api. The same Api who’s delivering on the field, week after week. Not a single supporter with any footballing brain would be pushing to move him on right now.
If you’re genuinely backing the club, you’d be celebrating the Haywood extension. If you’re serious about development, you’d see the logic in giving a kid like Jared the chance to grow under one of the best dummy halves the game’s seen. And if you’re still moaning about Da Silva being released, then you’ve clearly bought into hype over substance.
This isn’t another Tigers misstep. This is a club that’s finally doing something rare, planning for the future with a bit of foresight.
The reality is, the club can’t keep everyone. That’s just footy. Holding onto TDS would’ve meant stalling Jared Haywood’s natural progression into NSW Cup, and when you’ve got a kid that talented knocking on the door, you don’t slam it shut. You open the path, back your development system, and trust the process. It’s not about picking favourites, it’s about managing a squad properly and making sure the next in line is given the space to grow. That’s exactly what this move does.
So here’s some advice for the “supporter” pages and talking heads firing up on socials: either get behind the vision or get out of the way. Because if you’re still using Da Silva’s exit as a stick to beat the club with, you’re showing your ignorance, not your insight.
Also, if you’re taking anything you hear on Triple M as gospel, you’re slower than a snail on sleeping pills. Half the blokes on there are either stirring the pot for clicks or haven’t watched a full 80 minutes of footy since 2010. They’re paid to spark outrage, not offer insight, so if you’re forming your opinion based on that circus, you’re already behind the eight ball.
#WestsTigers #AllThingsWestsTigers #NRL #WestsTigersPathways #InBenjiWeTrust #HaywoodHypeTrain #TripleMTrashTakes #TrustTheProcess #SmartFooty #ApiStillKing #FutureHooker #NoRoomForSnails
Please share this post — the media is using TDS’s exit as another excuse to turn our club into a punching bag. It’s on us as supporters to set the record straight and back the vision.
Photo Credit: WestsTigers.com.au
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19kJCu6U42/
There’s been plenty of noise this week from so-called “Wests Tigers fan pages,” podcasts, and media outlets lining up to take a swing at Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall over Tallyn Da Silva’s release. Apparently, some people think one promising young hooker being granted permission to explore options elsewhere is the latest in a long line of Tigers stuff-ups.
Let’s be real, if you’re melting down over this, you’re either not paying attention to the club’s long-term strategy or you’re just looking for something to whinge about.
Here’s the truth: Apisai Koroisau is still playing elite-level football. He’s our captain, our general, and arguably our most consistent performer. You don’t force a future Hall of Famer out the door just to rush through a kid with potential. That’s exactly what Souths did with Adam Reynolds back in 2021, and how did that work out?
Let’s rewind for a second. Souths had their heart and soul in Reynolds, a leader, a premiership winner, and a big-game player. But they got spooked by his age, fell in love with potential, and backed Lachlan Ilias, a junior with wraps but far from ready. Since then, they’ve been stuck in neutral while Reynolds took Brisbane to a Grand Final. That’s not “building for the future”, that’s tripping over your own feet.
Now, some Tigers fans want to repeat history and move on from Api to fast-track TDS? Sorry, but no thanks.
Instead, the club has taken the smart route. Tallyn Da Silva is a talented player, no one’s denying that. But Jared Haywood is just as good, and in many ways, he’s a better fit. He’s about 18 months behind TDS in development, but his game is tailor-made for the modern dummy-half role. His service is razor-sharp, his footy IQ is through the roof, and his play style mirrors Api far more than TDS ever did.
Haywood has had a breakout 12 months:
• Captained the Balmain Tigers SG Ball Cup side
• Took Patrician Brothers Blacktown to the Schoolboys Grand Final
• Earned selection in the 2024 Australian Schoolboys squad
• Featured in the NRL Pre-Season Challenge
• Signed his maiden NRL deal through to 2028, joining the Top 30 in 2027
That’s not just talent, that’s a foundation being built the right way.
So let’s call it for what it is: Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall made a calculated call based on football smarts, not emotion. Richardson extended the better long-term option. He put his trust in Benji, a premiership-winning half who understands what kind of hooker best suits his spine, and Benji picked Api. The same Api who’s delivering on the field, week after week. Not a single supporter with any footballing brain would be pushing to move him on right now.
If you’re genuinely backing the club, you’d be celebrating the Haywood extension. If you’re serious about development, you’d see the logic in giving a kid like Jared the chance to grow under one of the best dummy halves the game’s seen. And if you’re still moaning about Da Silva being released, then you’ve clearly bought into hype over substance.
This isn’t another Tigers misstep. This is a club that’s finally doing something rare, planning for the future with a bit of foresight.
The reality is, the club can’t keep everyone. That’s just footy. Holding onto TDS would’ve meant stalling Jared Haywood’s natural progression into NSW Cup, and when you’ve got a kid that talented knocking on the door, you don’t slam it shut. You open the path, back your development system, and trust the process. It’s not about picking favourites, it’s about managing a squad properly and making sure the next in line is given the space to grow. That’s exactly what this move does.
So here’s some advice for the “supporter” pages and talking heads firing up on socials: either get behind the vision or get out of the way. Because if you’re still using Da Silva’s exit as a stick to beat the club with, you’re showing your ignorance, not your insight.
Also, if you’re taking anything you hear on Triple M as gospel, you’re slower than a snail on sleeping pills. Half the blokes on there are either stirring the pot for clicks or haven’t watched a full 80 minutes of footy since 2010. They’re paid to spark outrage, not offer insight, so if you’re forming your opinion based on that circus, you’re already behind the eight ball.
#WestsTigers #AllThingsWestsTigers #NRL #WestsTigersPathways #InBenjiWeTrust #HaywoodHypeTrain #TripleMTrashTakes #TrustTheProcess #SmartFooty #ApiStillKing #FutureHooker #NoRoomForSnails
Please share this post — the media is using TDS’s exit as another excuse to turn our club into a punching bag. It’s on us as supporters to set the record straight and back the vision.
Photo Credit: WestsTigers.com.au
Tom Shines
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Blah blah blah…
Most of the criticism I’ve heard this week is around the decision to let him go immeadiately… it’s not about re-signing him instead of Api
Buttface
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It’s still disappointing, and we could have used him for the next 6 months or at least another week.
T4L 😎
Yeah that's right. Most angst is about us rolling over at the very first sign someone might not be happy and handing good players over on silver platters without replacing them.
The Api vs Tallyn debate is completely seperate.
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Buttface
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Exactly, who we gunna have as run on hooker this week a reggies lock or a reggies journeyman giving it his last crack. Hopefully there’s a plan and it’s a good one.
mtd#2
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Bigscreentv
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It won't be long before Haywood is starting in NSW Cup. He'll probably start this week. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a run off the bench on first grade later in the year.
You’re missing the point.
Do I want him or to help the bulldogs no.
Is Latu ready and should we put all our eggs into the basket - thats very high risk atm.
But if Richo/Benji view we need an experienced half for 1-2 years (which they have clearly indicated they want) if we take our biased blinkers off Sexton for that period is the best performing option running around.
Tom Shines
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Sexton will have other suitors ..he doesn’t need to take a 12 month deal..
Edit …. Unless he signs with Perth in 2027…could be a possibility I guess
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hybrid_tiger
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Lots of words but not a single point that justifies the decision to let him go right now (rather than at the end of 25) and give up on the current season at the end of June.
hybrid_tiger
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If you can't see an issue with this then I don't know what to say. It's called professionalism.
Bigscreentv
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They let him go as they want to save the money. It doesn't make sense to keep him for another six months minimum and have him play reserve grade, when they can let him go now, save the money and promote Haywood to NSW Cup.
They have a long-term plan - if they kept him until the end of next year they'd potentially have 3-4 hookers who could play first grade - TDS and Hope can only play hooker, meaning they have less ways to include them if Api's fit.
TDS wanted to stay - as much as the media want to make it out that it's another failure of the club, another player who can't wait to get out, it's not true. The club made a decision for the future and while it make things a litter tougher this year, things would be tougher next year if they held on to him as they make then lose Haywood who's better.
Everyone is saying Haywood’s better but if we let Haywood go and kept TDS they would say the opposite
mtd#2
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I reckon they are front loading APIs contract this year... Hence why TDS leaving now works for us... And sets us up for a big 2026
tigahhh
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i don’t get the silence part abt api re-signing and star
surely club could use some good news lol
mtd#2
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It could be just a matter of getting books in order. They wouldn't have let TDS go without the commitment from API.
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