OFFICIAL Taylan "Tiny" May

[Sully]

I feel he will sign this week and all the media speculation is just that. I am pleased we are not leaking our position on signings like we had in the past.
I am sure he knows this will be his last chance if he stuffs up and whilst his alleged charges were dismissed due to non attendance of his wife it will always have questions asked if it was in fact true.
He can only move forward and show he can be a better person than his past proven indiscretions and I for one want to see us sign him as a football player. Rugby league is littered with questionable characters along with family members who have alleged to have done some terrible things, Mamm Fainu, Hopoate, Hass, Lodge, etc and whilst we are trying to set up a strong culture I know we can instill standards that drive culture values and if he or anyone else steps outside of these then we can address it, not just let him sign with someone else who doesn’t have the same moral compass.

I expect an announcement this week as it looks better that we waited for the court to be cleared and with Klemmer gone and possibly Olam being medically retired this week we could do with some good news.

Let’s hope we win today by plenty. I will be there in the 36 degrees cheering them on.

 

[Kaito]

We’ve had money and spots all off season. What’s so different about now?

I hear you..I think the fundamental difference though is the quality of potential signings as opposed to just signing anyone - and you need cap room & spots if you were to make a play for anyone that comes on the market or gets squeezed out of their club for whatever reason, we're ready

 

[weststigers]

Well we do need more centres as we only have To’a and Makasini in our top 30 next year for centres. Naden and Doueihi are off contract and don’t know if we’ll keep them, Olam most likely is retiring and won’t be playing and Faataape is too soon to know if they’ll keep him or let him go. Btw I never claimed to know who we were talking to I just shared what was said in the media about May.

Ok. Stay well

 

[bptiger 0]

That's a bit nasty Tuck.

Think about what u say no one is in jail , that sort of rubbish would really piss of the ONE decent forward we got , wake up 🥴

 

[Speed2burn]

Sometimes it’s not about footy. Nothing wrong with giving guys a second chance but they have to earn it. Russell Packer is a perfect example. Packer committed a pretty serious crime, however got a degree in prison and truly reformed. I think May needs to do something similar. Get away from football, do something positive with his life, then clubs might have a look at him. Could be wrong, but I get the vibe not many clubs will be willing to touch him until he demonstrates a change in behaviour and attitude. I think a club giving him a contract now won’t allow any sort of positive change in him. He’ll just feel enabled.

Agree I think Taylan is still in the potential to re-offend category. Judging by his social media antics over the past few weeks it doesn’t seem like he’s done a lot to better his image

 

[Suzie-Q]

If the tigers don’t sign May for what ever reason and some one like
South’s / Bennett or Storm / Bellamy does , does this show how dumb our coaches , Managers and CEO are or not , if Taylan May is ready to sign a deal I would be all over it , I think we need to run with results .
Results say he was very good at panthers and had $ 600 k contract ,
Results say all court charges have been beaten as proof he walked ,
Now it’s time for him to play footy , sign him up yesterday
We need a centre , we need a back rower, we need a prop

They weren't beaten, they were dropped. Domestic and family violence is a very tricky thing.

 

[Lestronge]

Yes we want them to be aggressive on the field, but so many of them don't know how to turn that switch off in their personal life.

They simply haven’t been given the tools to effectively manage society, and the only thing their good at for a lot of them , is playing a sport where the more aggressive you are the more you’re praised for it .
It’s why every club has full time psychologists employed , and constantly run programs about life outside of football . There’s at least an acceptance that there’s a duty of care from the sport towards the players .
But in saying that threatening to kill your wife is definitely next level . Id say there’s some very intensive therapy required there . Which is probably what the club is balking at … is the juice worth the squeeze ? And for everything I just said , it is a business and as talented as Taylan is , he would definitely be perceived as a liability . To what extent … I guess the club and the rest of the nrl would be the only ones who can answer that question .

 

[upthetigers]

They simply haven’t been given the tools to effectively manage society

Mate you could say the same thing about high school education. Why aren't kids learning about relationships, financial management, dealing with stress, and other skills to deal with life?

 

[Suzie-Q]

Mate you could say the same thing about high school education. Why aren't kids learning about relationships, financial management, dealing with stress, and other skills to deal with life?

Is that not parenting?

 

[tigerballs]

Imo this culture business is such bullshit and an over used term in sport and business. You can have a great so called culture where wives and families are all happy and loving the world, with players that lack ability and you are not going to win a game. Professional sports is about winning games!

What has worked for me in business and sport, is to build a team with ability and then build a bond (not culture] between the players so when they are together on or off the field they have each other’s backs. You then work on cohesion so they know what to do collectively and what is expected of them, the individual, in order for the whole team to work and get a result on the park. Trying to find a culture in the true meaning of the word is just nonsense. Players are transient, as are coaches and support staff. They come from different cultural and religious back grounds, don’t change them Direct them.

You find a bond, a reason for them to play for one another and not them selves. You win games and all of a sudden the media and pubic think you have a great culture.

May from reports sticks up for his mates and is a good footballer and now has an additional reason to play well and keep his nose clean.

You started out saying this culture business is bullshit, then went on to explain how you built a culture, whether you like it or not.
You say, from reports, May sticks up for his mates. He beat his wife! WHAT?
Good teams don't take a punt on loose cannons because they're disruptive. Storm let Smith go for a reason, Manly and Warriors let AFB go for a reason, etc, etc. Dickheads bring teams undone.

 

[weststigers]

Is that not parenting?

And if your parent is a dope?

 

[Suzie-Q]

And if your parent is a dope?

Why is the responsibility of the education department? In saying that, have a look at the PDHPE Curriculum document, and you'll see it is in there to be taught from ES1 right through to Stage 6.

 

[Lestronge]

Mate you could say the same thing about high school education. Why aren't kids learning about relationships, financial management, dealing with stress, and other skills to deal with life?

Parents man . Hard to teach kids how to adapt to society if you don’t have the tools . The cycle of abuse , the shame of speaking out . It’s not just abuse as well . It’s unfortunately proven that a lot of lower socioeconomic classes , where a lot of footy players come from , are less educated and lower IQ , neuro- developmental issues , so with the advancements in technology and offshoring of jobs , there’s less and less jobs at the lower end of the spectrum . So now you’re talking the cycle of never ending welfare , and scrounging for money , drugs etc .
It’s easy to sit and say “pull yourself up by the boot straps” but if you don’t know how … even little things like how to save money . Or it’s impolite to walk in front of someone . It’s not everyone obviously , but yea. I know from experience that it’s not until you’re much older , that you think “how do people know that ? Like was there a lesson on adulting, when I skipped school for the day ? “ and the answer is it’s not one lesson but a series of minor corrections parents and your bubble make around you , that shape your behaviour . And rarely is it a Brady bunch moment where dad sits you down and puts you straight .

 

[Lestronge]

You started out saying this culture business is bullshit, then went on to explain how you built a culture, whether you like it or not.
You say, from reports, May sticks up for his mates. He beat his wife! WHAT?
Good teams don't take a punt on loose cannons because they're disruptive. Storm let Smith go for a reason, Manly and Warriors let AFB go for a reason, etc, etc. Dickheads bring teams undone.

It would really really depend on Taylan himself . You’d have to sit with him over a period of time , and probably a counsellor/ psych to really come to a conclusion one way or the other . There’s 💯 guys who would be in prison , if not for the nrl . And have done the work to correct the toxic behaviours .
It’s a really complex issue I would think .

 

[upthetigers]

You started out saying this culture business is bullshit, then went on to explain how you built a culture, whether you like it or not.
You say, from reports, May sticks up for his mates. He beat his wife! WHAT?
Good teams don't take a punt on loose cannons because they're disruptive. Storm let Smith go for a reason, Manly and Warriors let AFB go for a reason, etc, etc. Dickheads bring teams undone.

I had no idea AFB was disruptive to the team. It didn't show in his performances.

 

[Tucker]

Teachers aren’t at school enough to competently complete the curriculum. There’s no way you could give them more to do.

 

[weststigers]

Why is the responsibility of the education department? In saying that, have a look at the PDHPE Curticulum document, and you'll see it is in there to be taught from ES1 right through to Stage 6.

I hear you. I think our wires are crossed on which point was being made. I am big on making kids productive and useful when they leave school. I think you were more referring to behaviour? Either way, I find this topic quite interesting in general.

Maybe it shouldn't be the education systems role. It's just that I see so many kids leave school and they get into trouble with credit cards etc. These kids are lambs to the slaughter. A lot of parents aren't much better.

Teaching kids how our financial system works can't be a bad thing. Just general life skills. Teaching them something useful. Even teaching them how businesses are built. Perhaps it could be a fundraising activity. Lots of ways to teach useful skills to kids beyond the core subjects where they can apply their maths, English, IT knowledge etc. to a meaningful project.

To me, education system is meant to prepare you with knowledge and skills for the real world. I don't know anymore...it's been 20 years for me. Most of what is taught was a little outdated in my day. I think there's a real opportunity for education and the business community to come together and get better outcomes. Maybe a Taylan May might be more engaged at school if he can work on a hoodie business as part of a school project? Some, of course, are too lazy to mumble their attendance during roll call.

As far as behaviour goes, I agree, very tough to eliminate bad behaviour in schools and teachers should not be expected to deal with problem kids. These kids know right from wrong. They are just choosing to fight against the system for some reason. Psychological help is probably more appropriate. Who knows what these kids are dealing with. Frustrating for all involved.

Are you a teacher Suzie?

 

[Suzie-Q]

And if your parent is a dope?

Why is the responsibility of the education department? In saying that, have a look at the PDHPE Curticulum document, and you'll see it is in there to be taught from ES1 right through

I hear you. I think our wires are crossed on which point was being made. I am big on making kids productive and useful when they leave school. I think you were more referring to behaviour? Either way, I find this topic quite interesting in general.

Maybe it shouldn't be the education systems role. It's just that I see so many kids leave school and they get into trouble with credit cards etc. These kids are lambs to the slaughter. A lot of parents aren't much better.

Teaching kids how our financial system works can't be a bad thing. Just general life skills. Teaching them something useful. Even teaching them how businesses are built. Perhaps it could be a fundraising activity. Lots of ways to teach useful skills to kids beyond the core subjects where they can apply their maths, English, IT knowledge etc. to a meaningful project.

To me, education system is meant to prepare you with knowledge and skills for the real world. I don't know anymore...it's been 20 years for me. Most of what is taught was a little outdated in my day. I think there's a real opportunity for education and the business community to come together and get better outcomes. Maybe a Taylan May might be more engaged at school if he can work on a hoodie business as part of a school project? Some, of course, are too lazy to mumble their attendance during roll call.

As far as behaviour goes, I agree, very tough to eliminate bad behaviour in schools and teachers should not be expected to deal with problem kids. These kids know right from wrong. They are just choosing to fight against the system for some reason. Psychological help is probably more appropriate. Who knows what these kids are dealing with. Frustrating for all involved.

Are you a teacher Suzie?

I am a teacher. In NSW, the curriculum is so overcrowded, and people want to add more and more to it. Mental health and cognitive disability are both huge issues in public schools. As is behaviour. Teachers are still leaving by the score. And it's not the money. It's the burn out. I'm at work today. I'm hoping to leave before the game starts, but its not looking good. I spent 6 hours here yesterday, just trying to get the paperwork done.

 

[weststigers]

Why is the responsibility of the education department? In saying that, have a look at the PDHPE Curticulum document, and you'll see it is in there to be taught from ES1 right through

I am a teacher. In NSW, the curriculum is so overcrowded, and people want to add more and more to it. Mental health and cognitive disability are both huge issues in public schools. As is behaviour. Teachers are still leaving by the score. And it's not the money. It's the burn out. I'm at work today. I'm hoping to leave before the game starts, but its not looking good. I spent 6 hours here yesterday, just trying to get the paperwork done.

I used to date a teacher and she had the same complaints.

I think the answer is to outsource the extras to TAFE or similar. You would know better than me, but there may be room to remove things from the curriculum. Cut red tape. Just seems over the years every part of society is suffering from stacking on more and more. More rules, more curriculum, more information, more emails and work.

Enough is enough.

 

[hugh1954]

Teachers aren’t at school enough to competently complete the curriculum. There’s no way you could give them more to do.

I used to as part of my teaching day have parenting classes afternoons at school, really opens ones eyes when you start drilling down to the real problems