Taylor

As a coach, his job is to play his best team. He isn't, he is allowing personal animosity to dictate who he selects. Was Farah the best choice for hooker today? Yes. Is Farah better than Lovett & Edwards? Yes. Farah can play 80 minutes, Halatau to the bench as hooker/2nd row. That has to be better for the team.
How on earth is playing Rankin as dummy half and Lovett in the centre a better option than Farah? Everybody who saw Lovett in the centres against Penrith knows that is a really stupid decision. Good coaches don't repeat stupid decisions. Had to be his plan all along as the 2 injuries we suffered were in the forwards.
Why is Lovett in ahead of Sironin? Played 40 minutes, butchered a try, missed a tackle to give a try away. Made 13 tackles, missed 3 in his 40 minutes.
Edwards 4 runs in 33 minutes, 23 tackles 2 misses. Solid, but how can anybody say he is better in the team than Farah?
Is Josh Aldo-Carr a better choice than Rankin? Yes, although I understand that one on account of JAC leaving.
Is MCK a better choice in the centre because of his defence? Yes.
As to Taylor improving each year, last year we were equal last, hard not to improve on that. Last year we played the most boring football I have seen from the Tigers, he stifled Farah, stifled Brooks and stifled Moses. It's all about defence, he says, we must get the defence right first. So what's happened, he hasn't got the defence right, now it's all about the right balance in attack! How on earth is it better to have less playmakers in your team? Imagine Bellamy telling Smith not to run from dummy-half. I also noticed Halatau made some telling dashes from dummy half today. Halatau is allowed to run from dummy half but Farah isn't allowed?
By dropping Farah, he knew he would create a shit-storm, he knew he would split the fans and split the team. Woods and Lawrence were both at Leichardt to support Farah I noticed.
We have improved this year, but he has had a dream run with injuries as opposed to the previous 2 years, and he has 3 of the most talented youngsters in the game with Tedesco, Brooks and Moses. How could you not win games with those 3 in the backline?
 
@Fade To Black said:
Lucky we were playing the Drags today, teams that have any attack at all would have put 30 on us.
The JT lovers have had their day in the sun today against pretty weak opposition. Let's see how it all pans out against far better opposition in the weeks to come, Edwards Lovett and our beyond poor right side defence will get much sterner tests in the run home.

The jt lovers had their day in the sun? Do you mean tigers fans enjoyed the win?
How would have Farah held helped our right defence?
 
A few people have been bringing up the the arguement around why can Halatau run from dummy half, but not Farah? Are they blind? Can they not see the difference? Halatau seems to go into dummy half with his mind made up. He either delivers the ball where it needs to go quickly or picks it up and takes off. He does not wait until the ball is in his hand, stand up, have a look around and take a few steps before deciding what he will do.
His dummy half running was excellent today and made us plenty of ground, but he did not go looking for penalties or the big play, simply easy metres when they were available.
 
@VonMiller58 said:
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

We have improved each year under Taylor.He has been proven correct time and time again as without Wobbie and his $950,000 salary we saw what Moses can do today.Something JT has said repeatedly.Wobbie stifles Moses and it was plain as day for all to see today that JT was proven correct….again.That is to all those that do not have a sack JT agenda.

Lol what garbage. Moses got the same service in the first 40 he always gets. In the second 40 it was well below satisfactory. All in all though, he was playing against a dreadful side and treated them accordingly.
 
@Harvey said:
His dummy half running was excellent today and made us plenty of ground, but he did not go looking for penalties or the big play, simply easy metres when they were available.

I rate Halatau. I reckon he does a great job for us as a fill in hooker. I don't think he is as good as Robbie over the course of the game.

In stating that these are two things that Robbie has always been extremely poor at. He plays for penalties and goes for the big play at poor times.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Regan said:
What about Littlejohn has played center hooker and half why not him there next week ?????

Could work, apparently Robbie made him look pretty good yesterday…

…or he just is pretty good and doesn't need anyone to make him look good?
 
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

Like button is broken stryker so cant give you a thumbs up but i love what you have to say in this post..
 
Let's hope JT learns from that game and can make adjustments as appropriate, whether that's getting another proper dummy half in or bringing Robbie back.. Doesn't matter. Feels like a bit of trial and error at the moment. I'm sure the strange positioning today had a lot to do with Grant and Lawrence being ruled out though. We don't have a lot of time for trial and error with our top 8 hopes still alive though, so hopefully this is all sorted fairly quickly!
 
@VonMiller58 said:
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

We have improved each year under Taylor.He has been proven correct time and time again as without Wobbie and his $950,000 salary we saw what Moses can do today.Something JT has said repeatedly.Wobbie stifles Moses and it was plain as day for all to see today that JT was proven correct….again.That is to all those that do not have a sack JT agenda.

Rubbish !!
If we have improved then why are we still so inconsistent on a weekly basis ?

One hit wonders dont go too far, you reckon Moses can repeat his performance next outing.?

I certainly think 10% chance at best, so sit back down, You are crowding the ruck
 
What first grade coach would play his winger at hooker… just to make sure Robbie isn't in the team? Absolute joke of a decision. I'd be fine with dropping Farah if a hooker came onto the bench, but to play Rankin at 9 and push Lovett to centre in attack is a joke and if that's not showing a personal vendetta, then i'm not sure what is.

Defence was so-so today, great scramble but missed around 40 odd tackles, something which Taylor harped on about at his presser on thursday. Our defence doesn't seem to be improving much IMO. We were lucky it was the dragons and not anyone else because we did some really dumb things today and invited the pressure.
 
Relax Farah will b back putting players on notice he knew he could with dragons

We have improved with Taylor
We were a bloody mess few yrs. financial and roster Now Moses and brooks have built up into leaders not skinny rookies
And remember when sironen was our future ??
Yes remember that.he is building a team not individuals
 
I do agree with Taylor's direction and he's absolutly right, what I do disagree with is playing amy nrl game and not having a natural dummy half in your team whether it be starting or on the bench.

With no other fit or options in our top 25, Farah still has a big role to play in this team this year either in the 9 or on the bench.

if Taylor thinks Wests Tigers will make the 8 and give his team and us supporters every chance to grab the title with a makeshift 9, a winger filling the void and a second rower play centre who can't play centre each time our winger moves to the 9, then Taylor really is a muppet with no idea.

But I'm still giving Taylor benefit of the doubt he'll do what's right for Wests Tigers for this season and not next..
 
How on earth do you people criticise the positional changes forced on JT by only having 16 players available for much of the first half and 15 for the second half? Do you think he wanted Rankin at dummy half and Lovett at centre? I thought the team performance was great under pressure. Going back a few months we would not have won that game with or without Robbie (who I still rate as a player).
 
Thought he would have learnt putting Lovett in the centres … Does the Penrith match at Leichhardt last year ring any bells ?
 
@sideline eye said:
How on earth do you people criticise the positional changes forced on JT by only having 16 players available for much of the first half and 15 for the second half? Do you think he wanted Rankin at dummy half and Lovett at centre? I thought the team performance was great under pressure. Going back a few months we would not have won that game with or without Robbie (who I still rate as a player).

You're absolutely right, but if all 17 stayed fit for 80, who replaces dene when he comes off for a breather?

Rankin (who didn't go that badly)?
ET the guy who has resparked our season in the 13 and is ineffective in the 9?
Thompson who is not a hooker?
Or everybody just takes turns?

It's still a terrible game plan in the nrl going into a game without a genuine #9 in the 17.
 
Thought he would have learnt putting Lovett in the centres … Does the Penrith match at Leichhardt last year ring any bells ?

I was at that game, it took 30minutes of crowd coaching and Lovett being stood up 3 times, for Taylor to get the message. He is a muppet! Robbie did need to change his game and pull his head in a bit, when this first raised its head last year. But, what really bugs me is, that he has! His dummy half play has been focussed on giving his halves the ball. So much so, the ruck has opened up several times resulting in him scoring a couple of 40m tries, he provides another kicking option which is probably more penetrating and makes the occasional 50 odd tackles. If that had been Cronulla today they would have put 30 pts on us. Taylor is the boss, not everyone likes the boss, he needs to suck it up and put the best team on the paddock. For me, that means Robbie, Siro for Lovett and Ado-Car for Rankin and Moses to practise his goal kicking. :sign:
 
To me the main thing today was winning and not imploding.

We won comfortably and whilst the opposition was poor we defended well and had some adversity during the game.

It was not great but it was a whole lot better then what we dished up a couple of years ago in similar circumstances.
 
@851 said:
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

100% agree, to try and convince us fans that is our best 17 when Rankin a slow half starts on the wing then moves to dummy half, Lovett plays at centre, come on JT we are not stupid, your beef with Robbie has clouded your judgement.
And I would agree he is the worst coach in the NRL, because he doesn't learn from his mistakes, and he say's one thing about accountability then does another, hell I would cop almost anyone to get rid of this bloke.

Both spot on. This has been made to look personal between coach & Farah with support of Board due to future financial dilemma on how to keep the 3 young ones (Tedesco , Brooks & Moses).
 
@Love the WestsTigers said:
@VonMiller58 said:
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

We have improved each year under Taylor.He has been proven correct time and time again as without Wobbie and his $950,000 salary we saw what Moses can do today.Something JT has said repeatedly.Wobbie stifles Moses and it was plain as day for all to see today that JT was proven correct….again.That is to all those that do not have a sack JT agenda.

Rubbish !!
If we have improved then why are we still so inconsistent on a weekly basis ?

One hit wonders dont go too far, you reckon Moses can repeat his performance next outing.?

I certainly think 10% chance at best, so sit back down, You are crowding the ruck

We have already matched last years win total.We were faves for the spoon last two years but JT has improved the team.
 
@VonMiller58 said:
@Love the WestsTigers said:
@VonMiller58 said:
@stryker said:
We won today despite Taylor's coaching.
Halatau was good for a while but got slower and slower to dummy half as the game progressed and provided some poor service as a result.
Playing Lovett in the centers again? Hopeless decision.
Rankin playing dummy half? Ridiculous.
Defence still aweful.

Taylor is easily the worst coach in the NRL. He is just lucky he has game breakers out wide with genuine pace who are mainly responsible for most of his wins through their attacking brilliance and forwards who provide decent scramble defence

We have improved each year under Taylor.He has been proven correct time and time again as without Wobbie and his $950,000 salary we saw what Moses can do today.Something JT has said repeatedly.Wobbie stifles Moses and it was plain as day for all to see today that JT was proven correct….again.That is to all those that do not have a sack JT agenda.

Rubbish !!
If we have improved then why are we still so inconsistent on a weekly basis ?

One hit wonders dont go too far, you reckon Moses can repeat his performance next outing.?

I certainly think 10% chance at best, so sit back down, You are crowding the ruck

We have already matched last years win total.We were faves for the spoon last two years but JT has improved the team.

Thats some great achievement considering all our gun players are 12 months older and we came second last in 2015\. We are only higher in table because of Parra debacle ,Newcastle uncompetitive ( we are still the only team they have beaten ), East & Souths internal dramas.
 
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