Teddy plans to end career at WT

[westy81]

Yea, no thanks you can stay at the roosters for the rest of your career we won't miss you, we don't want you back, if you can't be with us at our worst then you don't deserve to be with us at our best which is where we will be when your at the roosters

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

We didn't let him go. He walked. It's not the same thing.

or, our management were too incompetent to strike the right deal to keep him. I recall Pascoe having a interview with Cleary about how Woods & Teddy were the clubs biggest priority.

Well both have gone, so someone at the club has failed?!

If someone doesn't want to be somewhere, they'll leave no matter how much money you're offering.

How much of the salary cap were we supposed to throw at him to stay Watto? 50%? And then when the club couldn't compete because they had to surround him with nuffies you'd be making the same comment about gross mismanagement.

The club looks to of been grossly mismanaged since inception… So they have the runs on the board?!

So your point is they are damned if they do, damned if they don't? Or that no matter what they do it's always wrong? Past form is an indicator only, it's not absolution.

If losing Tedesco allows us to have a better rounded roster next year, be more competitive in order to lure better talent to the club then I am all for it. It sucks to lose a talented player as he but if his heart isn't here then sayonara.

It is no surprise the routinely successful clubs seem to have no issues bringing talent over when they're always a chance at premiership success.

 

[Fibros]

I'd take Tedesco back in a heartbeat.

This bloke at his best is argubaly the best player in the NRL.

He can single-handely change the momentum of games like he did on the weekend.

I really hope he comes back!

He's top 3 in regards to fullbacks in the game, no doubt about it. But lets be honest, when has he ever turned a game and been the difference in us winning? Great player, but he's never won us games when they have been on the line. Brooks has won us more games when its been in the balance than Tedesco has.

Agree with this comment. I kinda said likewise earlier. Teddy is no Cam Smith or JT.

 

[marzie]

Roosters didn't court Tedesco remember they refused to deal with isaaac moses, Tedesco picked up the phone and courted them himself via minichiello

Pretty sad really

 

[Tiger_Watto]

or, our management were too incompetent to strike the right deal to keep him. I recall Pascoe having a interview with Cleary about how Woods & Teddy were the clubs biggest priority.

Well both have gone, so someone at the club has failed?!

You serious?
If WT offered him $1.2 million per season and that still wasn't enough for him, how much are you proposing WT should of grovelled to his demands? $2 mill a year? We could of given him naming rights to our club I guess…......Wests Tedesco's or the James Tedesco Tigers. Jeesus Christ.

If you believe those type of numbers and stories… All I know is:

1) Teddy & Woods were a PRIORITY
2) They have not been secured
3) Someone has failed

The rest is just fluff piece rubbish you WANT to believe!

OK, so people who are content with the fact that the club didn't let itself get bent over and rogered by Ted and his manager are just WANTING to believe monetary amounts thrown about, or get sucked in by "fluff pieces"?
Eagerly awaiting his true contract offer and other facts that you are presumably armed with. Fire away.
If DCE is on 1 mill or more per year it is very realistic to think the NSW Origin fullback would be worth as much.

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

 

[Fade_To_Black]

It is highly likely the Roosters are assuring Tedesco of many various "extras" outside of his contract money. IMO any NRL fan would have to be pretty naive to think that the Roosters haven't been doing this to members of their squad in years gone by and most probably currently as well.
Player retention in the NRL these days is pretty much directly related to on-field success. Look at WT and Newcastle, both have struggled in recent years and have lost top line players as a result to clubs with better on-field results. If the trend ever goes the opposite way it is purely because the player has been thrown more money than they can refuse….....and more often than not ends with the struggling club performing even worse due to having a roster filled with slop to accommodate the "million dollar man" whoever that may be.

Sad to see an exhilerating, talented player such as Ted go, but happy to wave him off down the road if it means more money to spread out over solid signings who will move our club up the ladder more than a one-man-band ever could.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You serious?
If WT offered him $1.2 million per season and that still wasn't enough for him, how much are you proposing WT should of grovelled to his demands? $2 mill a year? We could of given him naming rights to our club I guess…......Wests Tedesco's or the James Tedesco Tigers. Jeesus Christ.

If you believe those type of numbers and stories… All I know is:

1) Teddy & Woods were a PRIORITY
2) They have not been secured
3) Someone has failed

The rest is just fluff piece rubbish you WANT to believe!

OK, so people who are content with the fact that the club didn't let itself get bent over and rogered by Ted and his manager are just WANTING to believe monetary amounts thrown about, or get sucked in by "fluff pieces"?
Eagerly awaiting his true contract offer and other facts that you are presumably armed with. Fire away.
If DCE is on 1 mill or more per year it is very realistic to think the NSW Origin fullback would be worth as much.

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

Better ring the club and tell them to offer 50% of the cap to the next big thing then Watto. He can jog on, it will be hilarious if we go on to be more successful than Easts in the time that he is there and he looks to parachute his way back in.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

Better ring the club and tell them to offer 50% of the cap to the next big thing then Watto. He can jog on, it will be hilarious if we go on to be more successful than Easts in the time that he is there and he looks to parachute his way back in.

Is this 'if we go on to be more successful' theory part of the never ending proclamation of 'Next Year' for Wests Tigers?

I'd suggest one of the major keys for Wests Tigers to becoming successful on the paddock starts with Player Retention. Maybe 'next year' we will keep our squad together for 2019 and start building?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

Better ring the club and tell them to offer 50% of the cap to the next big thing then Watto. He can jog on, it will be hilarious if we go on to be more successful than Easts in the time that he is there and he looks to parachute his way back in.

Is this 'if we go on to be more successful' theory part of the never ending proclamation of 'Next Year' for Wests Tigers?

I'd suggest one of the major keys for Wests Tigers to becoming successful on the paddock starts with Player Retention. Maybe 'next year' we will keep our squad together for 2019 and start building?

I take your point about the "next year" mantra. Maybe not having a team of promising self interested juniors that we've habitually paid overs for that are more worried about themselves than the team may go a long way to keeping a squad together?

 

[Russell]

we've let go of some really good players in fifita, austin, moses, TMM, taupau, siro etc who've all done really well at their new clubs. Surely, there are factors like they needed a change of scenery etc etc but teddy will be what JT was to bulldogs.

For years and years down the track, even after he retires, we'll be thinking why did we let this guy go.

We didn't - HE went.

Same as Austin, Moses, Taupau and JAC.

 

[Furious1]

Wests Tigers had his offer on the table for months. Teddy chose to go to the Dogs with Woods, oops, then in the COP, while still telling the WT fan base he hadn't made a decision, he signed with the Roosters. Ivan put a deadline on him as he was well aware of what had happened and Teddy still didn't have the balls to to be up front and honest.

He might be a classy player, and time often does heal all wounds, but 2 things need to be remembered:

This cut is bloody deep
and Teddy only said you never know what can happen, not " i'd like to come back and finish my career at WT"

 

[Telltails]

Yep, as soon as Tuivasa Sheck left them it was always likely he was going there imo.

Anyway, onwards and upwards.

Yeah dont know about that there was the whole no doing business witb Isaac Moses/Politis story and Latrell Mitchell was the incumbent to my recollection.
Teddy decided to leave of his own accord - but our club must hold some level of accountability in helping him make that decision a whole lot easier.
If it doesnt they will never learn anything moving forward

 

[earl]

we've let go of some really good players in fifita, austin, moses, TMM, taupau, siro etc who've all done really well at their new clubs. Surely, there are factors like they needed a change of scenery etc etc but teddy will be what JT was to bulldogs.

For years and years down the track, even after he retires, we'll be thinking why did we let this guy go.

We didn't let him go. He walked. It's not the same thing.

or, our management were too incompetent to strike the right deal to keep him. I recall Pascoe having a interview with Cleary about how Woods & Teddy were the clubs biggest priority.

Well both have gone, so someone at the club has failed?!

If someone doesn't want to be somewhere, they'll leave no matter how much money you're offering.

How much of the salary cap were we supposed to throw at him to stay Watto? 50%? And then when the club couldn't compete because they had to surround him with nuffies you'd be making the same comment about gross mismanagement.

The club did everything they could without ruining our future. How are we going now with these guys in the team.

Losing Woods is definitely a positive for us. Losing Tedesco is a massive loss but not if we can't put quality players around him.

 

[earl]

Horsemouth Tedesco was always going to be a Rooster provided the coin was right, it wasn’t right last contract, it was this time.

He was always looking to get the best deal for him. He had no loyalty at all. That is who he is. He might talk and act nice and he can play footy really well but he doesn't care one little bit about our club.

 

[clontarfkid]

Think the Taylor /Farah fiasco laid the platform for instability,the always doomed Broses combination fuelled the fire in not achieving team expectations,and a vindictive player manager who steered the naïve but opportunistic big 3 out of the club sealed the deal.
As for him returning someday….a total load of crap.He wont return until hes a broken 35yo looking for superannuation
Great player....but absolutely zero integrity to the club that supported him thru thick and thin

 

[earl]

Roosters didn't court Tedesco remember they refused to deal with isaaac moses, Tedesco picked up the phone and courted them himself via minichiello

Pretty sad really

I think he was always looking for a way out and his demands that we've heard about were completely out of line.

 

[earl]

You serious?
If WT offered him $1.2 million per season and that still wasn't enough for him, how much are you proposing WT should of grovelled to his demands? $2 mill a year? We could of given him naming rights to our club I guess…......Wests Tedesco's or the James Tedesco Tigers. Jeesus Christ.

If you believe those type of numbers and stories… All I know is:

1) Teddy & Woods were a PRIORITY
2) They have not been secured
3) Someone has failed

The rest is just fluff piece rubbish you WANT to believe!

OK, so people who are content with the fact that the club didn't let itself get bent over and rogered by Ted and his manager are just WANTING to believe monetary amounts thrown about, or get sucked in by "fluff pieces"?
Eagerly awaiting his true contract offer and other facts that you are presumably armed with. Fire away.
If DCE is on 1 mill or more per year it is very realistic to think the NSW Origin fullback would be worth as much.

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

I'm blaming Tedesco beacuse he was offered a massive contract and the club did everything to try and keep him and he left. There are very few (I think no) players that have done this in the history of the NRL.

You leave for:-

1\. The chance to play first grade
2\. A significant pay increase

Tedesco has come up with a 3rd reason:-
3\. To win a premiership
3\. He requires his horse-whisperer & masseuse
3\. Some other reason

That is why I blame Tedesco and why I don't really want him to come back. I think he has treated the club and it's supporters really poorly.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

If you believe those type of numbers and stories… All I know is:

1) Teddy & Woods were a PRIORITY
2) They have not been secured
3) Someone has failed

The rest is just fluff piece rubbish you WANT to believe!

OK, so people who are content with the fact that the club didn't let itself get bent over and rogered by Ted and his manager are just WANTING to believe monetary amounts thrown about, or get sucked in by "fluff pieces"?
Eagerly awaiting his true contract offer and other facts that you are presumably armed with. Fire away.
If DCE is on 1 mill or more per year it is very realistic to think the NSW Origin fullback would be worth as much.

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

I'm blaming Tedesco beacuse he was offered a massive contract and the club did everything to try and keep him and he left. There are very few (I think no) players that have done this in the history of the NRL.

You leave for:-

1\. The chance to play first grade
2\. A significant pay increase

Tedesco has come up with a 3rd reason:-
3\. To win a premiership
3\. He requires his horse-whisperer & masseuse
3\. Some other reason

That is why I blame Tedesco and why I don't really want him to come back. I think he has treated the club and it's supporters really poorly.

Does anyone seriously believe it has anything other than to do with $? Raiders now Roosters :smiley:

 

[Skip]

The club didn't make it easy for JT to resign with all the dramas and how unstable the guys at the top were but then they brought in Ivan and did their best to get JT to sign on with a good offer but by then JT was full of himself and wanted a premiership. Gonna miss him but we've moved on, hope he never puts on our jersey ever again after this year.

 

[earl]

OK, so people who are content with the fact that the club didn't let itself get bent over and rogered by Ted and his manager are just WANTING to believe monetary amounts thrown about, or get sucked in by "fluff pieces"?
Eagerly awaiting his true contract offer and other facts that you are presumably armed with. Fire away.
If DCE is on 1 mill or more per year it is very realistic to think the NSW Origin fullback would be worth as much.

Mate, I'd be surprised if anyone on here knows what the club or roosters offered. But, I'd be confident enough to suggest the WT more than likely offered more than the Roosters as his value was greater to us than it is to them.

All I know is the club failed in retaining a PRIORITY, but everyone is blaming James. Why does the club get a free pass on poor player retention, something which appears to be embedded into its history?

I'm blaming Tedesco beacuse he was offered a massive contract and the club did everything to try and keep him and he left. There are very few (I think no) players that have done this in the history of the NRL.

You leave for:-

1\. The chance to play first grade
2\. A significant pay increase

Tedesco has come up with a 3rd reason:-
3\. To win a premiership
3\. He requires his horse-whisperer & masseuse
3\. Some other reason

That is why I blame Tedesco and why I don't really want him to come back. I think he has treated the club and it's supporters really poorly.

Does anyone seriously believe it has anything other than to do with $? Raiders now Roosters :smiley:

I honestly think he went about choosing his next club with pros and cons and loyalty to the Tigers meant nothing at all to him.

So money was really important and very few clubs could offer him what he wanted but he didn't have one tiny little bit of loyalty to the club.

I'm sure we offered great money to keep him and I think basically every other player in the comp would have stayed if they were in his position.

That is the person that he is.