Tevita Pangai Junior

@inbenjiwetrust said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401028) said:
Our experience with ex Parra's players is between good and very good:
- Hodgson, Richards
- Aloiai, Twal, Utoikamanu

Hodgo was a Wests junior and Wests first grader, Junior wanted Joel Caine over him, he just come back home
 
Lodge to NZ gives me confidence that if TPJ wants to leave Brisbane this year that we will get him. if he thinks he can wait it out til next year then that might hurt our chances, but if he wants to leave this year we have the roster spot and cap space to do so. I can't think of many other clubs apart from the chooks that would have amount of spare cap that we do.
 
@jrtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401087) said:
Lodge to NZ gives me confidence that if TPJ wants to leave Brisbane this year that we will get him. if he thinks he can wait it out til next year then that might hurt our chances, but if he wants to leave this year we have the roster spot and cap space to do so. I can't think of many other clubs apart from the chooks that would have amount of spare cap that we do.

By recent reports, suggest our offer to TPJ is in, all we can do is wait now?
 
@jrtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401087) said:
Lodge to NZ gives me confidence that if TPJ wants to leave Brisbane this year that we will get him. if he thinks he can wait it out til next year then that might hurt our chances, but if he wants to leave this year we have the roster spot and cap space to do so. I can't think of many other clubs apart from the chooks that would have amount of spare cap that we do.

Don't be surprised.

Friend, Morris, Cordner... gone.
They'll release Ikavalu or something and find the space.

They get what they want.
 
@sleeve said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401000) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400974) said:
@jrtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400938) said:
@das-tigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400925) said:
With Capewell signing with the donkey's,we might find out soon now.
Hopefully in our favour!

don't think we'll hear anything for the next week or so. TPJ's manager will do the typical wheeling and dealing to see if he can get anything concrete off the Dogs/Chooks etc, and if he does then it'll take even longer with the various bidding wars and so forth. after that, it's whether the Broncos actually want to release him, which from what we've seen changes on an hourly basis.


Happy to wait until his suspension is over at a minimum.

Iken is obviously taking the reins now, so Pengi won,t be going anywhere this year. To me he is a must for the Tigers, so i would go all out for him to come next year. Our biggest advantage was for this year, as we had money in the cap, for this years payments where others did not. ***But iken said he is staying for this year***, so it will now be harder for us.

Where did Ikin say this?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401003) said:
@sleeve said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401000) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400974) said:
@jrtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400938) said:
@das-tigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400925) said:
With Capewell signing with the donkey's,we might find out soon now.
Hopefully in our favour!

don't think we'll hear anything for the next week or so. TPJ's manager will do the typical wheeling and dealing to see if he can get anything concrete off the Dogs/Chooks etc, and if he does then it'll take even longer with the various bidding wars and so forth. after that, it's whether the Broncos actually want to release him, which from what we've seen changes on an hourly basis.


Happy to wait until his suspension is over at a minimum.

Iken is obviously taking the reins now, so Pengi won,t be going anywhere this year. To me he is a must for the Tigers, so i would go all out for him to come next year. Our biggest advantage was for this year, as we had money in the cap, for this years payments where others did not. But iken said he is staying for this year, so it will now be harder for us.

when did ikin say that? Looks to me like the only person that was mentioned to have spoken about it was Kev, and on reflection I think he was just talking about Lodge


And he just let Lodge go.......cant trust anything the bloke says.
 
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401029) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401027) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

I'm not trying to protect Tallis ....Robbie should have known better ...maybe he even knew what Tallis might do ......stupidity is stupidity no matter how you dress it

This Farah hating belongs on whatever forum @alien uses...

Ease up Hapz.
King Robbie is and always will be... 1 of us.

Robbie was always good at looking after number 1. If he ends up our coach that will do me.
 
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.


He explains it a bit in the video I posted above. He has no respect for Robbie whiteanting the coach.
 
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401026) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.
 
@harvey said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401125) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401029) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401027) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

I'm not trying to protect Tallis ....Robbie should have known better ...maybe he even knew what Tallis might do ......stupidity is stupidity no matter how you dress it

This Farah hating belongs on whatever forum @alien uses...

Ease up Hapz.
King Robbie is and always will be... 1 of us.

Robbie was always good at looking after number 1. If he ends up our coach that will do me.

Farah was always competitive and wore his heart on his sleeve.

He won't be the coach any time soon but I think you could assume he's definitely going to be around for a very long time.

I like it.
 
@851 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401084) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401028) said:
Our experience with ex Parra's players is between good and very good:
- Hodgson, Richards
- Aloiai, Twal, Utoikamanu

Hodgo was a Wests junior and Wests first grader, ***Junior wanted Joel Caine over him,*** he just come back home

That is rubbish Junior wanted Caine over him. Hodgson signed with Parra prior to the merger.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401127) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401026) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.

All very good but he doesnt have to use the media to air grievances - makes himself a hero and embarrassed his mate. He could have fronted the players he suspects of undermining Walters instead, he has incriminated them all and Kevvie has to deal with the wash up. Don't think he did Kevvie any favours by letting the whole Rugby League world know that he has lost a portion of the playing group.
 
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401133) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401127) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401026) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.

All very good but he doesnt have to use the media to air grievances - makes himself a hero and embarrassed his mate. He could have fronted the players he suspects of undermining Walters instead, he has incriminated them all and Kevvie has to deal with the wash up. Don't think he did Kevvie any favours by letting the whole Rugby League world know that he has lost a portion of the playing group.


I get your point and dont disagree with it, but I get the impression that if he was in a room with these blokes he wouldnt be shy to tell them anyway. Also remember that the point of this rant was for the players to have the balls to be upfront about it and not backdoor the coach (like Robbie is his inference in the video). I get the impression he doesnt care what the context is, he'll just tell the truth. I have some respect for that.

I also have a strong feeling TPJ is one of these blokes he wants to out.
 
@sleeve said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400710) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400707) said:
@sleeve said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400706) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Madge is on thin ice, Sheens, Kimmorley and Farah added to the staff , is an indicator the club is not happy with the coaching, I was a fan , but i think he is past it. The hard nosed coach that got results, has turned into the Bennet father figure, which is not working.

Kimmorley is in the role that Hodgo was originally going to have. He is the Pathways Coaching Manager.

They all have other jobs, i know. I just think the management is covering their butt , in case Madge has a falling out. We have not improved the defence, offloads and 2nd phase play is almost non existant. Game plan ,we look like head less chooks. Confidence is Zilch. What is the coach responsible for? If not these basics?, I won't even get into the team selections. The old saying- if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

Are you saying Madge is a Duck?

Never seen a Duck coach an NRL team before - looking forward to Sunday.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401134) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401133) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401127) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401026) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.

All very good but he doesnt have to use the media to air grievances - makes himself a hero and embarrassed his mate. He could have fronted the players he suspects of undermining Walters instead, he has incriminated them all and Kevvie has to deal with the wash up. Don't think he did Kevvie any favours by letting the whole Rugby League world know that he has lost a portion of the playing group.


I get your point and dont disagree with it, but I get the impression that if he was in a room with these blokes he wouldnt be shy to tell them anyway. Also remember that the point of this rant was for the players to have the balls to be upfront about it and not backdoor the coach (like Robbie is his inference in the video). I get the impression he doesnt care what the context is, he'll just tell the truth. I have some respect for that.

I also have a strong feeling TPJ is one of these blokes he wants to out.

TPJ is tarred with the same brush as all the other bikie linked ratbags that have promised so much but produced very little. Ask St George, Parra and now Broncos how they feel about signing bikies. The reason why his signing with another club is such an ongoing saga is that no-one wants the drama.
 
@tigerballs said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401144) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401134) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401133) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401127) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401026) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401020) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400913) said:
@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400629) said:
@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400610) said:
@gnr4life said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400597) said:
I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.

All very good but he doesnt have to use the media to air grievances - makes himself a hero and embarrassed his mate. He could have fronted the players he suspects of undermining Walters instead, he has incriminated them all and Kevvie has to deal with the wash up. Don't think he did Kevvie any favours by letting the whole Rugby League world know that he has lost a portion of the playing group.


I get your point and dont disagree with it, but I get the impression that if he was in a room with these blokes he wouldnt be shy to tell them anyway. Also remember that the point of this rant was for the players to have the balls to be upfront about it and not backdoor the coach (like Robbie is his inference in the video). I get the impression he doesnt care what the context is, he'll just tell the truth. I have some respect for that.

I also have a strong feeling TPJ is one of these blokes he wants to out.

TPJ is tarred with the same brush as all the other bikie linked ratbags that have promised so much but produced very little. Ask St George, Parra and now Broncos how they feel about signing bikies. The reason why his signing with another club is such an ongoing saga is that no-one wants the drama.

This is why I don't think the Roosters will touch TPJ, he doesn't suit their "no dickhead policy".
 
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@cktiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400907) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400838) said:
@strongee said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400837) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400807) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400805) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400804) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400803) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400802) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400796) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400793) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400785) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400782) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400650) said:
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@cochise said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400625) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400624) said:
@magpies1963 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1400617) said:
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I’m telling you, TPJ might seem like an x-factor, and he no doubt can be, but the suspensions will wear thin real fast.

His presence though, when on field is the real threat... to opposition.

Madge needs to sit him down and work out strategies where he can control his aggression whilst playing his natural game and creating that second phase play we desperately lack.

I think a few of the other forwards could really benefit from a player like TPJ and hopefully they work as a strong unit with guys like Gildart, Luarie and AD following along for those offloads.

TPJ could be huge for us from transforming us from a soft pack to a feared one.

Demps : I'm not disagreeing with you but, quite a few on here are adamant that Madge can't coach.
So if that's the case how is he going to coach TPJ **and** change his aggressive attitude.

Easy.
Let Farah, Sheens and Kimmorley do it.

Farah as coach is one of the most out there suggestions I have ever heard.

Farah is a born leader with so much football intelligence.

Tell me it's a bad idea.

Bro ...didn't you have someone spotting for you today

What are u talking about haha

Weights bro ........head knock ...HIA ...don't think Robbie would make a good head coach

Not a head coach.
But an assistant coach.

If he proves himself at another club 1st

We as a club need a break from Benji and Robbie for a good 5 years ......weed out all the crap 1st and then if they are prepared to tow the line and not leak crap to the media every 5 minutes ...maybe

Robbie is at the club currently.

Yep ...and we still haven't learnt a god damn thing ...dumbest NRL club by a mile ....no other club brings back trouble makers .....losers

Robbie is a trouble maker?
Lol mate, might be time to become happy_rabbit and join your mate @alien

Robbie had Sheens sacked with the backing of Balmain Juniors .....had his conversation with Gordie in regards to Potter ...clashed with Taylor and Pascoe

Players play Demps ....don't get involved in club politics

Doesn't happen at 15 other clubs .....does it ???

Captains captain.

Ain't no one more wests tigers than Roberto Farah.

Taylor deserved to be clashed with.
Maybe Potter couldn't coach.
And Sheens needed a break.

Still, having some one with passion and pride like Farah on board isn't going to hurt.

Funny ...you don't ever see any other NRL club captain burying his club .......if you are not happy ...you leave ....

Why would you leave something you love , because it’s filled with people you consider incompetent? Wouldn’t you fight to get those people removed , especially if you considered them toxic ?

Also , maybe Robbie was humbled by the whole experience . Just because you think 1 way today , doesn’t mean your locked into that thought for the rest of your life .

Potter did follow , at that time , the second winningest coach in history . A bloke famous for being a tactical genius , sometimes to the detriment of the team . By those standards maybe Potter couldn’t coach ? Or Robbie had it easy his whole career , and needed a huge reality check .
Who knows .

Would you bail on the club happy , that you obviously love , if it had people in charge y thought were harming the joint ?

Yeah ...but I'd have the class to keep it in house ...big difference

Like Gordie had the class to keep a private comment private?
Besides there's never been any proof that Farah was talking to the press about any coach or actively trying to get rid of them.
Just a throwaway line (apparently) to that boofhead Tallis.

Gordie's a journo ...if your dumb enough to tell a journo anything .....

Tallis is not a journo - he's a commentator.
If Farah said anything, and I am still not convinced what Tallis recounted, then Tallis is a bum for breaking a 'so called' friends trust.
PS Even if he considered himself a journo they don't quote what people say off the record... none of them.
Grub of the highest order... and now he's got his head so far up his own backside thinks he can ruin players careers with just a word from him.

Agree - loose cannon. Thinks he is protecting his mates but in fact he just inflames the situation and creates a media circus around
who he thinks he is protecting. Pretty sure Kevvie would have preferred Tallis to keep his mouth shut because he has now caused further tension with his players, just like he did with our club.


I disagree. I think Tallis is an old school bloke and if he thinks you have broken a principle he will front you and front the circumstance. I actually respect that.

I witnessed Tallis fight three guys outside Kogarah oval on a Friday Night after the St George Leagues club disco when he was coming off the bench for the Dragons and I'd guess Danny Green would have had second thoughts about stepping in. Bloke went like a madman in a thrashing machine. Few of the victims mates thought they were going to join in, changed their minds after about 6 seconds...
 
Lodge being released might actually hurt our chances of getting TPJ - they weren't able to register Capewells contract until they released a player from their deal next year and that was lodge, now they have no real reason to release Pangai (although knowing Kevvy it could easily still happen)
 
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401148) said:
Lodge being released might actually hurt our chances of getting TPJ - they weren't able to register Capewells contract until they released a player from their deal next year and that was lodge, now they have no real reason to release Pangai (although knowing Kevvy it could easily still happen)

Are they at 30 for 2022 already..?
 

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