Tevita Pangai Junior

[Cairnstigers]

Can someone explain this to me. We offer TPJ 600 and he agrees and then along comes the dogs and verbally offer 750. When we go to sign TPJ his manager says he wants more money to match the dogs. TPJ says he doesn’t want to play for the dogs he would rather play for us or the dragons. He says if we come close to the dogs he will be happy. We say sorry but any more than 600 is too much and we stop negotiating. Why would the dogs pay 750 for a player who doesn’t want to play for them? Are they that stupid?

Because a dog will eat what ever is in front of him when he's hungry

 

[hugh1954]

Can someone explain this to me. We offer TPJ 600 and he agrees and then along comes the dogs and verbally offer 750. When we go to sign TPJ his manager says he wants more money to match the dogs. TPJ says he doesn’t want to play for the dogs he would rather play for us or the dragons. He says if we come close to the dogs he will be happy. We say sorry but any more than 600 is too much and we stop negotiating. Why would the dogs pay 750 for a player who doesn’t want to play for them? Are they that stupid?

Because a dog will eat what ever is in front of him when he's hungry

Even a bait

 

[Cairnstigers]

Lol he gets linked to us, 66 put on us. Linked to Dogs, 66 put on them.

Dragons must be favourites.

Hope we play Dragons next week

 

[happy_tiger]

Can someone explain this to me. We offer TPJ 600 and he agrees and then along comes the dogs and verbally offer 750. When we go to sign TPJ his manager says he wants more money to match the dogs. TPJ says he doesn’t want to play for the dogs he would rather play for us or the dragons. He says if we come close to the dogs he will be happy. We say sorry but any more than 600 is too much and we stop negotiating. Why would the dogs pay 750 for a player who doesn’t want to play for them? Are they that stupid?

It would appear so .....but then again we left the Latrell offer on the table for a few days after he told us he wasn't interested ......

 

[hsvjones]

Lol he gets linked to us, 66 put on us. Linked to Dogs, 66 put on them.

Dragons must be favourites.

I think the dragon need to offload a player to get TPJ..
I think TPJ Manager might have egg on his face soon.

 

[ATown]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

He took off with the pleasure machine ?

Haha…the pleasure machine. So funny. Imagine trying to give a girl that public moniker these days.

I wonder how the hell that even came about.

When you get a little older you will work that out

I’m 40. I understand why.

I’m saying it’s weird how it made it’s way into the public vernacular where that just became her name.

Barely anyone even knew her actual name.

Just taking the micky out of you
I need comedy in my life as we all do
If I see an opening I usually take it
Besides
You might be 40 but so was

Haha…nice.

 

[ATown]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

He took off with the pleasure machine ?

Haha…the pleasure machine. So funny. Imagine trying to give a girl that public moniker these days.

I wonder how the hell that even came about.

When you get a little older you will work that out

I’m 40. I understand why.

I’m saying it’s weird how it made it’s way into the public vernacular where that just became her name.

Barely anyone even knew her actual name.


Gabrielle Hitchens, she was an "exotic dancer" (a stripper) and the Pleasure Machine was her stage name.

Ah that makes sense. I just find it funny in hindsight that the general public never cared about her actual name. She was just the pleasure machine. She probably encouraged the whole thing. She certainly got her 15mins of fame.

Gabrielle Richens as well.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.

Or he says by moving to Sydney I will lose my TPAs as they are reliant on me being in Brisbane and would like that difference included in my contract. Wording of these things makes a massive difference.

Why wouldn’t you mentioned it in the beginning? Why wait to a face to face to up your offer? I guess other clubs. ‘Probably Bulldogs’ will probably say yeah sure and will have a TPA lined up to accomodate this.

For starters, it wasn't face to face on Thursday. TPJ was willing to come here but when it was time to discuss figures he was trying to double dip, he was looking for the Broncos to stump us some cash but also didn't want that coming off his contract at the Tigers and had issues with a TPA on top of that.

So does that mean it’s ? gone now ? What if his manager was bluffing / he doesn’t actually want to play for the dogs . If he comes to somewhere reasonable , would we re- enter, or is it dead in the water ?

 

[cochise]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.

Or he says by moving to Sydney I will lose my TPAs as they are reliant on me being in Brisbane and would like that difference included in my contract. Wording of these things makes a massive difference.

Why wouldn’t you mentioned it in the beginning? Why wait to a face to face to up your offer? I guess other clubs. ‘Probably Bulldogs’ will probably say yeah sure and will have a TPA lined up to accomodate this.

For starters, it wasn't face to face on Thursday. TPJ was willing to come here but when it was time to discuss figures he was trying to double dip, he was looking for the Broncos to stump us some cash but also didn't want that coming off his contract at the Tigers and had issues with a TPA on top of that.

So does that mean it’s ? gone now ? What if his manager was bluffing / he doesn’t actually want to play for the dogs . If he comes to somewhere reasonable , would we re- enter, or is it dead in the water ?

The 2 parties are a fair way apart so i wouldn't think so.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.

Or he says by moving to Sydney I will lose my TPAs as they are reliant on me being in Brisbane and would like that difference included in my contract. Wording of these things makes a massive difference.

Why wouldn’t you mentioned it in the beginning? Why wait to a face to face to up your offer? I guess other clubs. ‘Probably Bulldogs’ will probably say yeah sure and will have a TPA lined up to accomodate this.

For starters, it wasn't face to face on Thursday. TPJ was willing to come here but when it was time to discuss figures he was trying to double dip, he was looking for the Broncos to stump us some cash but also didn't want that coming off his contract at the Tigers and had issues with a TPA on top of that.

So does that mean it’s ? gone now ? What if his manager was bluffing / he doesn’t actually want to play for the dogs . If he comes to somewhere reasonable , would we re- enter, or is it dead in the water ?

The 2 parties are a fair way apart so i wouldn't think so.

For 750k , that would cripple us I think . I honestly think , Blore , seyfarth and Luci , can develop to be just as good , if not better . Plus Tumeth is supposed to be a weapon , and has future star written all over him , or so I’m told .
Blore is the one . We just need him to get on the field .

 

[Tiger5150]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Its not illegal at all, but it would impact out cap disproportionally. Would be insane to sign up for that.

 

[Tiger5150]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.

Wrong. The fact that Brisbane arent guaranteeing these payments is the whole point. There is no restriction on TPAs from genuine third parties. It makes sense that if he leaves the area of Brisbane, he is no longer able to provide service to these third parties. If they were dodgy TPA's Broncos would be footing the bill. It actually looks legit.

Tigers would be mad to take it on.

 

[Tiger5150]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

He took off with the pleasure machine ?

Haha…the pleasure machine. So funny. Imagine trying to give a girl that public moniker these days.

I wonder how the hell that even came about.

When you get a little older you will work that out

I’m 40. I understand why.

I’m saying it’s weird how it made it’s way into the public vernacular where that just became her name.

Barely anyone even knew her actual name.


Gabrielle Hitchens, she was an "exotic dancer" (a stripper) and the Pleasure Machine was her stage name.

Ah that makes sense. I just find it funny in hindsight that the general public never cared about her actual name. She was just the pleasure machine. She probably encouraged the whole thing. She certainly got her 15mins of fame.

Gabrielle Richens as well.

Ah thats right, well she was always just Gabby to me ;-)

 

[Needaname]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.


Wrong. The fact that Brisbane arent guaranteeing these payments is the whole point. There is no restriction on TPAs from genuine third parties. It makes sense that if he leaves the area of Brisbane, he is no longer able to provide service to these third parties. If they were dodgy TPA's Broncos would be footing the bill. It actually looks legit.

Tigers would be mad to take it on.

That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking of the TPAs as a yearly salary more so a complete package. There is every chance that the TPA’s have been honoured to this point. So your right and we would be stupid to take this on. But I do not doubt that another club such as the dogs would have a couple of contact that would be more willing to kick in the additional in a form of a TPA.

 

[Tiger5150]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.


Wrong. The fact that Brisbane arent guaranteeing these payments is the whole point. There is no restriction on TPAs from genuine third parties. It makes sense that if he leaves the area of Brisbane, he is no longer able to provide service to these third parties. If they were dodgy TPA's Broncos would be footing the bill. It actually looks legit.

Tigers would be mad to take it on.

That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking of the TPAs as a yearly salary more so a complete package. There is every chance that the TPA’s have been honoured to this point. So your right and we would be stupid to take this on. But I do not doubt that another club such as the dogs would have a couple of contact that would be more willing to kick in the additional in a form of a TPA.

Kudos to you mate.

EDIT" Im not saying Kudos just because Needaname is agreeing with me. I acknowledge that when I start a post with WRONG, many here (maybe me as well) would instinctively argue the point. Refreshing for someone to read it and think on its merits.

 

[Needaname]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

that is what being outbid is all about one party outbids another and you pull out. If you didn't want the product or player you would never have made a bid in the first place.
We obviously did and he is out of our price range we withdrew
we still did not get the player

No party outbid us, that's the point mate. We were interested, no one has said we weren't, his asking point was more than we were willing to pay so we terminated the negotiation.

agree to disagree cochise on this one. I see this no different to Latrell or JAC

Who outbid us? In what way is this an auction? I will tell you now TPJ was willing to come here and we probably could have had him at training next week.

There doesn’t appear to be any room for counter offers in the recent negotiations we’ve been involved in.
If that is the case why are we presenting our best and final from the outset?
I disagree with some here I see the foundation of buying and selling and the negotiations that take place as an integral skill in player recruitment.
It seems we have too many of our i’s dotted and our t’s crossed prior to presenting that we are so sure of our target we aren’t willing to be open to adjusting our stance.

TPJ wanted us to cover money he hadn't received from TPAs.

That’s illegal.

Depends how you word it.

TPAs are supposed to be at arms length from the club.
Either the Broncos promised him these and aren’t coming through or the manager has promised his something that’s not there.
Either way in the laws of the salary cap either the Broncos or the manager have done the wrong thing here.
To expect the next club to cover this up is illegal.


Wrong. The fact that Brisbane arent guaranteeing these payments is the whole point. There is no restriction on TPAs from genuine third parties. It makes sense that if he leaves the area of Brisbane, he is no longer able to provide service to these third parties. If they were dodgy TPA's Broncos would be footing the bill. It actually looks legit.

Tigers would be mad to take it on.

That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking of the TPAs as a yearly salary more so a complete package. There is every chance that the TPA’s have been honoured to this point. So your right and we would be stupid to take this on. But I do not doubt that another club such as the dogs would have a couple of contact that would be more willing to kick in the additional in a form of a TPA.


Kudos to you mate.

EDIT" Im not saying Kudos just because Needaname is agreeing with me. I acknowledge that when I start a post with WRONG, many here (maybe me as well) would instinctively argue the point. Refreshing for someone to read it and think on its merits.

No I understood.
I come to this place for information and although you, like a couple of other have a habit of giving a fair argument against at times, which admitted can be draining to read at times, obviously it’s the facts I’m after not the chatter so there is a bit of gold if you dig deep enough.

 

[hank37w]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

Failed to reach the reserve price.

 

[cochise]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

"TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs", if this in fact true, then we didn't miss him, he just wanted more than we wanted to pay? If you look at the dogs, they will be in serious trouble if they don't fire from the get go?

we did miss him we made an offer he didn't take it he went elsewhere that is missing the purchase
Latrell
JAC
this happens to Tigers all the time
they better land Funucane and or Brandon Smith

No we didn't miss him, we made an offer, he wanted more, we moved on without further negotiation.

Are they after Finucane or Smith?

if you bid for a house and you do not get the house you missed out on purchasing the house we made a bid it was Rejected

We withdrew our offer and walked away.

ok...
I really want that house
As the auction price goes past what you can afford
you pull out as someone else purchases the house
You feel better as you withdrew your offer and walk away
life doesn't work like that end of the day you didn't get the house you wanted someone else did

Yeah because they overpaid, that is not how you get ahead.

we still missed him regardless of what they were paid he went elsewhere

So are you trying to say it is a bad thing we didn't over pay?

no I'm trying to say we made an offer he has elected to go elsewhere we missed out on him. just because the club then withdraws the offer it doe not mean you wanted him and did not get him.
this is aimed at the people on here who are like oh we withdrew the offer so that is ok
If you are a salesman and a you make a sales pitch but the potential client elects to go with another companies product t then you have missed the sale, you can't go back to your manager and be like hey nothing to see hear we never wanted that client anyway that is ridiculous we sent three staff up there and pitched the club and like Latrell and JAC duck egg.
Hope we land someone decent soon

Read the news about this, he has been offered a substantial amount more than we offered.
We didn’t want to increase our offer, so that means we walked away, if you choose to believe otherwise, then fine.
BTW, I was a sales manager for many years, you don’t sell at any price. You stick to your budget.

likewise if you choose to believe we walked away and didn't miss out on a player good luck to you.
you obviously don't do any auctions if you go to buy something and don't due to price or whatever you miss the product regardless that is fact.

You have trouble letting things go, you are playing a game semantics.

and likewise if we want Dale Finucane and we don't offer enough it will mean it is another player that we tried to land and did not as he had a better offer be that more money or longer deal etc than we are prepared to offer, still doesn't erase the fact if we put an offer and it gets rejected then we miss the player
three years for Finucane worth a shot not four years

In a negotiation, you make an offer, if the player comes back and say I want more money and you turn around and say we are not prepared to offer more so are ending the negotiation. In that scenario you are ending the negotiation not the player. We weren't outbid, we decided that TPJ wasn't worth the money he wanted, we rejected his offer and ended negotiations.

Failed to reach the reserve price.

Yep lol

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

maybe the three stooges from our club shoukd have checked out the price before they jumped on a plane to go up there.
But I guess we withdrew the offer so no egg on our face here, we withdrew the offer so like some on here like to think he really really wanted to come ....
same story every time

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Latrell signs for less to go to souths
but we withdraw our offer
so he didn't reject us we took our bat and ball and went home
Pangai like Latrell has elected to play elsewhere other than Tigers