The culture of bullying and abuse at Wests Tigers..

[Geo]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

Mosese tragically passed at the beginning of 2013 so I can see how the Telegraph would link it to current administration…

To run his photo on the front page is disgusting..

 

[jirskyr]

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

It is true that a report has been written.

The rest is up for debate.

 

[innsaneink]

I'm amazed at how easily people on here are willing to brush this under the carpet because a couple of people are employed and doing a good job. **The person who has driven this culture is the coach & he's still there.** Maybe we're now ranked so highly because the players who were suffering the most have departed the club? **That would mean that while the issues would no longer be highlighted, the culture and structure which drives this culture would still be in place (the head coach).** The Robbie situation and the Sitaleki situation were never dealt with, the players left the club because they couldn't stand the bullying. If the players still there now have never had any problems, then of course they'd be happy with the standard of welfare.

And wouldn't the positive changes that have been made been implemented by the football manager who was recently sacked in controversial circumstances?

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

I also can't understand why it matters which player was saying this to the RLPA. We are a CLUB, we're not simply three or four big name players. No wonder we can't recruit and quality players to our club!

Yep… All JTs fault... Despite this all going back a few years before he arrived

 

[innsaneink]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

Mosese tragically passed at the beginning of 2013 so I can see how the Telegraph would link it to current administration…

To run his photo on the front page is disgusting..

Did this really make the front page of the Sunday paper?

 

[Benjirific]

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

It is true that a report has been written.

The rest is up for debate.

So now it's the RLPA that has an agenda against the club? I understand why people are very sceptical about DT articles, but what reason would the Players' Association to doctor a report?

Our club had/possibly still has serious issues with player welfare. Great that thanks to our former footy manager these are being dealt with, but it's made clear that the primary source of this bullying culture is the head coach who remains. Those most likely to have suffered from it no longer play for the club - that is not problem solved, but going off people's comments & the club statement it's problem swept under the carpet.

 

[Benjirific]

I'm amazed at how easily people on here are willing to brush this under the carpet because a couple of people are employed and doing a good job. **The person who has driven this culture is the coach & he's still there.** Maybe we're now ranked so highly because the players who were suffering the most have departed the club? **That would mean that while the issues would no longer be highlighted, the culture and structure which drives this culture would still be in place (the head coach).** The Robbie situation and the Sitaleki situation were never dealt with, the players left the club because they couldn't stand the bullying. If the players still there now have never had any problems, then of course they'd be happy with the standard of welfare.

And wouldn't the positive changes that have been made been implemented by the football manager who was recently sacked in controversial circumstances?

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

I also can't understand why it matters which player was saying this to the RLPA. We are a CLUB, we're not simply three or four big name players. No wonder we can't recruit and quality players to our club!

Yep… All JTs fault... Despite this all going back a few years before he arrived

The report was written about the 2015 season, the link to Mosese was understandable but poor by the DT.

 

[Geo]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

Mosese tragically passed at the beginning of 2013 so I can see how the Telegraph would link it to current administration…

To run his photo on the front page is disgusting..

Did this really make the front page of the Sunday paper?


 

[jirskyr]

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

It is true that a report has been written.

The rest is up for debate.

So now it's the RLPA that has an agenda against the club? I understand why people are very sceptical about DT articles, but what reason would the Players' Association to doctor a report?

Our club had/possibly still has serious issues with player welfare. Great that thanks to our former footy manager these are being dealt with, but it's made clear that the primary source of this bullying culture is the head coach who remains. Those most likely to have suffered from it no longer play for the club - that is not problem solved, but going off people's comments & the club statement it's problem swept under the carpet.

It's not doctoring of a report, it is the validity of ex-player claims and selective reporting in the media.

RLPA is reportedly tabling comments of specific players. We haven't seen the report, we don't know who the players are. All we know is what the DT has run with today, alone - other media outlets have not picked this up, based on something > 12 months old, making references to a suicide tragedy 3+ years ago.

It is foolish to just take this article as the sum truth of the situation, or indeed the report itself.

 

[gallagher]

This report has been written and is true - that can't really be argued.

It is true that a report has been written.

The rest is up for debate.

So now it's the RLPA that has an agenda against the club? I understand why people are very sceptical about DT articles, but what reason would the Players' Association to doctor a report?

Our club had/possibly still has serious issues with player welfare. Great that thanks to our former footy manager these are being dealt with, but it's made clear that the primary source of this bullying culture is the head coach who remains. Those most likely to have suffered from it no longer play for the club - that is not problem solved, but going off people's comments & the club statement it's problem swept under the carpet.

If Farah was so horribly bullied, why was he so desperate to stay?
Get your head out of the sand.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

Mosese tragically passed at the beginning of 2013 so I can see how the Telegraph would link it to current administration…

To run his photo on the front page is disgusting..

Did this really make the front page of the Sunday paper?

Yeah, could hardly believe my eyes when I saw poor Moses on the cover on ABC 24 this morning. Sad part is that I already expected the exact dated content.

 

[vlad]

this relates to an article by Phil Rothfield 12 months ago about a report being compiled for the RLPA by the independent ( :unamused: ) Julieanne Levick … the lawyer representing R Farah

the original article has been wiped from google but the transcript can still be read here ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/3r1qe3/more_tigers_drama_because_fuck_it_why_not_player/

as others have mentioned this is also the same lawyer who represented Newcastle Knights player Zane Tetevano who went to jail for bashing his girlfriend .

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3109527/zane-tetevano-jailed-for-bashing-former-girlfriend/

where she also alluded to the toxic environment of rugby league then too

His barrister, Julieanne Levick, said Tetevano was now working 60 hours a week and had no intentions of returning to the ‘‘limelight’’ of professional rugby league.
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‘‘This man has turned his life around from a very dark place,’’ she said.
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‘‘From an NRL star to the very humble man who is before the court today.
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‘‘He has no desire to return to the toxic environment that the NRL invites.’’

and of course a year after having no intentions of returning to the toxic environment of RL ... he signs with the Roosters .

Gotta wonder why the RLPA employed Levick to do a report on a sport that she clearly has a dislike for .

 

[matchball]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

But but but Robbie loves the club and is a Tiger legend.

 

[simonthetigerrrr]

That cover of the tele is a disgrace.

 

[magpiecol]

Load of crap. Not worth discussing.

Let's move on.

:sign:

 

[NJLM78]

Anything to sell a paper. There are serious bushfires around NSW, Dramas in Indonesia and a US Presidential election in the days ahead, among many other important news stories. Yet they run that headline on the front page. Sponsored by a major legal firm, they wont have to look too far for legal advice.

 

[vlad]

more on Julieanne Levick …

She also went into bat for serial nutjob John Hopoate

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/manly-sea-eagles/barrister-urges-manly-sea-eagles-to-man-up-and-fight-for-john-hopoate-20160221-gmzlxy.html

and claimed the rabbitohs used & abused Dylan Walker

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2016-the-endorsement-that-convinced-jamie-lyon-of-dylan-walkers-character/news-story/57d476027a9bd7caece8219dc0decd8c

Along the way his barrister Julieanne Levick declared the Rabbitohs “used and abused” Walker as he battled through 2015 with injury.
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Treated him “like a piece of meat”, in her view, as she described his controversial ousting after his life-threatening overdose on painkillers in the early hours of September 22.

 

[cktiger]

Shame on Robbie Farah & Sam Ayoub for allowing the Daily Telegraph to bring Mosese into their vindictive agenda against the club!

But but but Robbie loves the club and is a Tiger legend.

I think he was being sarcastic.
If you think Farah (or Ayoub for that matter) has any say as to what goes on the front page of of a major metropolitan newspaper you are kidding yourself.

 

[Tim Sheens]

The real story should be about the role or lack thereof that one of the few high profile RLPA representative and long serving leader of the team had in attending to supposed issues.

Oh, thats right, they were busy negotiating a higher match fee for the game's elite that is more than a third than the annual salary of some of their teammates that could well have been suffering.

 

[2041]

The way some people on here have *immediately* gone to Robbie bloody Farah as their get-out-of-jail excuse for anything negative about the Tigers is truly incredible. It's like Stalin's Russia. Bad harvest? Blame Trotsky. Poverty? Trotsky. Counterrevolutionary forces in the orthodox church? Trotsky.

 

[cktiger]

The real story should be about the role or lack thereof that one of the few high profile RLPA representative and long serving leader of the team had in attending to supposed issues.

Oh, thats right, they were busy negotiating a higher match fee for the game's elite that is more than a third than the annual salary of some of their teammates that could well have been suffering.

Oh, that's right - whatever happens in the world of rugby league it must be Farah's fault.
Nice attempt to change the topic.
I'm sure things have improved at the club since that report and, like others, can't see the point in revisiting it without anything new to add.
However, things obviously NEEDED to be done when you take this line alone out of the report… **'document will reveal 85% of the players interviewed complained of unacceptable conditions at the club.'**