The Doueihi move
- Thread starter king_sirro
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Contract season.
Strangest thing,
For the most part of the year, I would happily claim Doueihis' defence had improved out of site
- But thought he was ball hogging and not doing much with the ball.
The last few weeks, He's turned that on it's ear, His defence has been back to how it used to be - And he's doing more with the ball.
I like AD,
But he's been tried and tested - And now his spot is about to be taken out from under him.
Unless he want's to go to a Bench Utility / Forward, He needs to move on.
Yessir
You know I'm a fan.
Time to bite the bullet and allow him to move on.
Get busy, Isaac.
We've got some issues we definitely need to improve, roster wise. ADs asking price for one year or whatever can be better spent elsewhere.
Lock, forward depth, back up half, etc.
So our players on big money are void of any blame as to why we cannot win a game when they are playing ?
It’s always Doueihi’s fault, Seyfarth’s fault, Twal’s fault ???
They are t the ones on big money taking up most of our salary cap and supposed to be doing special things to earn their money and win us games.
Is that you saying that,
Or attempting to make out like that's what's I said?
If it is, Go back and read what I said again.
But now you mention it,
Doueihi is probably the only one not getting overpaid in the Players you mentioned.
Terry T.Nuts
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As I said earlier he gets a week at 13 if he shits the bed, KOE is his calling and then piss him off at the end of the season.
It’s a general comment that the players on smaller contracts who are paid to play 30-40mins and just hold their own while the bigger paid players are having a rest are not the reason why we struggle to win a game.
Every NRL club has these type of players in their top 17 and it doesn’t stop them from winning plenty of games as their highly paid players are the ones who influence the game in their favour.
Our higher paid players, aside from Terrell May are doing very little tn influence the game in our favour.
hank37w
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Shame we can't say the same about Hunt. 🤣
Jolls
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While what you say is true I don't think the issue is lack of effort it is about lack of thinking. What has been apparent for some time, and becomming more evident is that we have plenty of skill but not enough brains. We need one footballing brain that can assess what is happeing in real time and react appopriately.
Identify where the oppositon is gaining the ascendency, identify the critcal vulnerability of that strength and attack it.
We don't attack vulnerabilities - we seem to be fixated on doing what we do well - that is great until what we do well is being nullified - then you need to react appropriately.
Playing what you see is not a winnign strategy it is players taking opportinites that present themselves - palying in the moment. It is all well and good when you are going forward and have ascendency. When you don't you need make the oppostion change what they are doing - and that doesn't happen by trying to execute your won game plan. It happens when you force them to change theirs so you can get back to pitting your strengths agaisnt their weaknessess.
We have plenty of ability - we are short in a few key aspects but we can recruit that in for the most part. Where is the footballing brain of the outfit? The one that can adapt on the run - that can lead in adversity? Develop that player over the off season and you have a winning team. You no longer lose close games, you no longer persist trying a failing course of action because we become a team that can think - not just execute.
Yeah they do - The bit you're missing is they're paid accordingly.
A bloke like Luke Garner, Is on less at the Panthers than Seyfarth and Twal are at the Tigers.
And he even has somewhat of a highlights reel.
Luke Garner would be very handy on one of our edges right now with his extra speed, but that’s another story.
Seyfarth himself has a decent highlights reel just in recent weeks, but as I say he’s too slow to be a genuine strike option on an edge and hence the reason he’s better used as a toiler in the middle off the bench,
We could have Fisher-Harris and Leota up front and it still wouldn’t make much difference if we continue with so many one out hit ups and have next to no strike on our edges or out wide.
Tom Shines
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Apart from weeks 2-9 when we did have some strike out wide
What’s changed apart from To’a now playing a long way from his best ?
Does this not happen with To’scevert season, gives us a sneak peek at what he can do, then plays injured and does nothing for the rest of the season ?
A pattern is forming and I can’t see how it’s beneficial to us long term.
Tom Shines
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So one guy is the reason ? I keep saying it’s the game plan that’s changed … something happened after the 64-0 drubbing
Lol we’ve been on the Titanic for years!
You avoid the point - again.
Garner has scored almost as many tries as both out Back Rowers this year.
He'd be an upgrade on at least 2 of our starting 17.
That's without considering both centres, Who he'd have trumped off last game as well.
jirskyr
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I'm not clear, was Doueihi officially moved to lock? He seemed to be playing halfback to me, making loads of first touches and taking the odd short kick. Latu took a few hitups, it looked to me that Latu was lock, then at one point we had 3 halves so that Luai could kick and/or get wider.
Looked OK too except Bird is rubbish on the edge. If Taylan May can get his gear together I can only expect a very rapid call-up with Doueihi and Latu interchanging halfback/lock duties.
Looked OK too except Bird is rubbish on the edge. If Taylan May can get his gear together I can only expect a very rapid call-up with Doueihi and Latu interchanging halfback/lock duties.
BlackWhiteGold
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AD's 20-min cameo in the middle reinforced that we need a ball-playing line-engaging 13 to complement Luai & Latu. And furthermore, one who has kicking game will be a bonus as well as tackle-breaking ability.
Both our halves play better a bit wider IMO and this type of lock can give them time & space to maximise their strengths.
The problem is there are no locks like this who are available atm.
So maybe we do try to extend AD for 1 season or longer to play this role off the bench. I think our only hope is if AD heads to the Perth Bears and he extends for 1 season which gives us extra time to find the right player for us (Kurt Donoghue, Pheonix Crossland, Kaide Ellis at Wigan perhaps, Tyran Wishart, Dylan Walker though getting too old).
We do have 21yo Josese Lanyon & 17yo Siotame Havea Jr coming through in pathways who play this role but we need NOW.
Any others?
