The LEICHHARDT Myth

Gee I feel sorry for all the supporters/fans who turned up at Leichhardt Oval for this match yesterday, a match on paper you would have thought we should have won….by a mile...to me the most important match of the season, as our top 8 finish could be on the line... this mob have a way of letting you/themselves down don't they :bash very disappointing :blush:
 
I really dont get this thread. Doesnt make sense at all. It was a sell out, against an out of town team and people are bagging the crowd?

The only motivation I can see for this thread would be Magpies diehards who are defensive about the fact that Campbo crowds have been poor but that would be ridiculous. As a Tigers fan we should be happy about this surely?
 
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I really dont get this thread. Doesnt make sense at all. It was a sell out, against an out of town team and people are bagging the crowd?

**The only motivation I can see for this thread would be Magpies diehards who are defensive about the fact that Campbo crowds have been poor but that would be ridiculous. As a Tigers fan we should be happy about this surely?**

Of course you would - why don't you actually read the OP's original post - it was nothing about crowds - it was about the false belief that the ground provides a fortress mentality for WT.
 
to be fair titans have a great record vs the tigers in Sydney. I don't recall ever beating them in Sydney. They're just a good match up vs us. I was very aware of this prior to the game and had $50 on the titans @ $2.50
 
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I really dont get this thread. Doesnt make sense at all. It was a sell out, against an out of town team and people are bagging the crowd?

**The only motivation I can see for this thread would be Magpies diehards who are defensive about the fact that Campbo crowds have been poor but that would be ridiculous. As a Tigers fan we should be happy about this surely?**

**_Of course you would_** - why don't you actually read the OP's original post - it was nothing about crowds - it was about the false belief that the ground provides a fortress mentality for WT.

Why of course I would? This thread genuinely doesnt make sense.

I did read the OP. It was wrong. Since WT existed we have won 45 and lost 34\. Compared to our overall success rate this is a stunning rate of victories. Our previous game there was a great crowd and a great victory. Again, this thread makes no sense.

Despite the OP post, this thread has somehow degenerated into criticising a full house at Leichhardt.

Please point out where this thread makes sense?
 
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There was 17K Tigers fans there to watch v the Titans. Go we get that many for that game at any other ground?

No.
They only go to L.O.
Non travellers

That's crap and you know it.

Gee… You really proved me wrong Russell.
We've had people on here admit they only attend one venue... Don't know why you cannot accept it
 
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I really dont get this thread. Doesnt make sense at all. It was a sell out, against an out of town team and people are bagging the crowd?

**The only motivation I can see for this thread would be Magpies diehards who are defensive about the fact that Campbo crowds have been poor but that would be ridiculous. As a Tigers fan we should be happy about this surely?**

**_Of course you would_** - why don't you actually read the OP's original post - it was nothing about crowds - it was about the false belief that the ground provides a fortress mentality for WT.

Why of course I would? This thread genuinely doesnt make sense.

I did read the OP. It was wrong. Since WT existed we have won 45 and lost 34\. Compared to our overall success rate this is a stunning rate of victories. Our previous game there was a great crowd and a great victory. Again, this thread makes no sense.

Despite the OP post, this thread has somehow degenerated into criticising a full house at Leichhardt.

Please point out where this thread makes sense?

56% isn't a stunning rate of victories.
People ratiionalise the fact that the club loses money playing there by saying we are near unbeatable there. Were not. That's what the OP was saying.
17k is a good crowd but we greet those numbers rarely.
 
Its a crying shame - the crowd showed up to do their bit to help the team but the team couldn't lift. Its hard to believe a better home ground advantage opportunity than yesterday - a must win game, full house, great weather - arghhh. They seemed gassed early into the game.
 
Our current players play with no real heart or emotion. Too many going through the motions and saying "We love the atmosphere at Leichhardt" but very few who rise up to another level and get buoyed by the atmosphere.
That's where we got the advantage, players feeding off the energy. We need more passion in our team
 
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56% isn't a stunning rate of victories.
People ratiionalise the fact that the club loses money playing there by saying we are near unbeatable there. Were not. That's what the OP was saying.
17k is a good crowd but we greet those numbers rarely.

https://afltables.com/rl/teams/wests_tigers/wests_tigers_vn.html

Its closer to 60% at Leichhardt whereas Campbelltown & ANZ are a pretty steady 44%. That is a 50% greater chance of victory at Leichhardt which based on our crap win rate forever is a STUNNING victory rate. A veritable fortress.

Add to that fact that the Leichhardt experience is pretty much unique in the NRL and many people love it as witnessed yesterday. Sure there may be people there yesterday just because the "event experience" but who cares? They came and there was the opportunity to sell them on the Tigers (unlikely yesterday).

I was there yesterday with my partner who was there for the first time. She is NOT a RL fan and she loved it. Understood it immediately. It is a special place for many people and I am seriously struggling to see the negatives yesterday other than the teams performance. If we played Titans yesterday at ANZ we would have struggled to break 10K.

Seriously, what is the issue?
 
And we are averaging 14K over the past 3 years at Leichhardt. Given that our average crowds this year are only 17536, Leichhardt is NOT dragging down our crowd figures.
 
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56% isn't a stunning rate of victories.
People ratiionalise the fact that the club loses money playing there by saying we are near unbeatable there. Were not. That's what the OP was saying.
17k is a good crowd but we greet those numbers rarely.

https://afltables.com/rl/teams/wests_tigers/wests_tigers_vn.html
**Its closer to 60% at Leichhardt** whereas Campbelltown & ANZ are a pretty steady 44%. That is a 50% greater chance of victory at Leichhardt which based on our crap win rate forever is a STUNNING victory rate. A veritable fortress.

Add to that fact that the Leichhardt experience is pretty much unique in the NRL and many people love it as witnessed yesterday. Sure there may be people there yesterday just because the "event experience" but who cares? They came and there was the opportunity to sell them on the Tigers (unlikely yesterday).

I was there yesterday with my partner who was there for the first time. She is NOT a RL fan and she loved it. Understood it immediately. It is a special place for many people and I am seriously struggling to see the negatives yesterday other than the teams performance. If we played Titans yesterday at ANZ we would have struggled to break 10K.

Seriously, what is the issue?

yes, FOX commentators said the same thing. Somewhere around 61%/62%
 
Leichhardt is a fortress for the Titans. I think they've won three in a row there, though that may include Campbelltown.
There's no safe place anymore for a team on the downward spiral.
 
Aaah, the Myth of LO being a fortress - it has never been known for that. But it is quite simply the best Suburban Ground in OZ for atmosphere. Sadly, it's current House Band are out of tune!

Fun Fortress Facts (from https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org)

1992 Blocker, Pearce, Jack & Brooks last Game LOST Crowd 17365
1994 Benny Elias last Game LOST Crowd 7,810
1998 Sirros last Game LOST Crowd 12,914 in pissing down rain
1994 Last game at Leichhardt Oval before moving to Parra (as Sydney Tigers) LOST Crowd 7.810
1997 First game back to LO after failed Parra experiment (back to Balmain Tigers) LOST Crowd 18,247

Heaps of fans loved Blocker etc
Heaps of fans supported to the return to LO
and every one of 12,914 were prepared to farewell Sirro in the rain!
But not many supported Elias or the Move to Parra

As Balmain at LO 547 Played 337 Won 195 Lost 15 Drawn
As Wests Tigers at LO 78 P 45 W 31 L 2 D
As Wests Tigers at Campbo 78 P 33 W 43 L 2 D
 
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Leichhardt is a fortress for the Titans. I think they've won three in a row there, though that may include Campbelltown.
There's no safe place anymore for a team on the downward spiral.

Last year Titans beat us at Campbelltown, almost exactly a year ago (23/6/17) Crowd 9000
 
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56% isn't a stunning rate of victories.
People ratiionalise the fact that the club loses money playing there by saying we are near unbeatable there. Were not. That's what the OP was saying.
17k is a good crowd but we greet those numbers rarely.

https://afltables.com/rl/teams/wests_tigers/wests_tigers_vn.html

Its closer to 60% at Leichhardt whereas Campbelltown & ANZ are a pretty steady 44%. That is a 50% greater chance of victory at Leichhardt which based on our crap win rate forever is a STUNNING victory rate. A veritable fortress.

Add to that fact that the Leichhardt experience is pretty much unique in the NRL and many people love it as witnessed yesterday. Sure there may be people there yesterday just because the "event experience" but who cares? They came and there was the opportunity to sell them on the Tigers (unlikely yesterday).

I was there yesterday with my partner who was there for the first time. She is NOT a RL fan and she loved it. Understood it immediately. It is a special place for many people and I am seriously struggling to see the negatives yesterday other than the teams performance. If we played Titans yesterday at ANZ we would have struggled to break 10K.

Seriously, what is the issue?

I worked out the 56% based on your win/loss figure. How you think it's a stunning victory rate is mind boggling.
My problem is we lose money playing there based over 19 seasons seasons of crowds. It, along with CSS is holding us back.
How do people not connect the dots of making a profit and becoming a successful club?
 
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