The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies...😤🤬

Just thought I'd revisit this, after looking at the replay for the Ferguson sideline prior to Parra's first try. My memory was jogged by the press conference where a reporter asked Madge.

What I will say is that Tigers are entitled to defend the errors, whether they are their own or errors by the refs, and it's disappointing that you can point to a single mistake that then leads to a raft of points. In this instance - try from kick, followed by kick off out on full, then weak D to allow Takairangi to score again. Defend that first mistake and the other stuff doesn't happen.

And to consistently play finals footy you need to win DESPITE bad calls.

HOWEVER two weeks in a row where touchies missed feet on touchline and Bunker seems disinterested in over-ruling. I don't quite get the rules on this, because they'll happily over-rule a mistake regarding ball dead in-goal (e.g. over-turning a goal-line drop-out into 20m restart), but not a sideline error. In both instances isn't the ball out of play and technically a stoppage in which the bunker can over-rule?

It seems to me the touchies are so obsessed now with the "planting of the foot" when a winger attempts to score, that they miss the back foot. Joey Manu last week was slight but clear - back foot momentarily brushes the line.

Ferguson on Sunday - his back foot clearly swipes the line and then his whole hip is touching the turf whilst he is still touching the football. The commentators all said on replay it still looked he went out, but then moved on with it. But it's a very large mistake in the context of any match, esp one tied 4-4.

Sorry for dark snaps, Kayo drops the brightness when I move off-screen to capture.

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@jirskyr said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1035035) said:
Just thought I'd revisit this, after looking at the replay for the Ferguson sideline prior to Parra's first try. My memory was jogged by the press conference where a reporter asked Madge.

What I will say is that Tigers are entitled to defend the errors, whether they are their own or errors by the refs, and it's disappointing that you can point to a single mistake that then leads to a raft of points. In this instance - try from kick, followed by kick off out on full, then weak D to allow Takairangi to score again. Defend that first mistake and the other stuff doesn't happen.

And to consistently play finals footy you need to win DESPITE bad calls.

HOWEVER two weeks in a row where touchies missed feet on touchline and Bunker seems disinterested in over-ruling. I don't quite get the rules on this, because they'll happily over-rule a mistake regarding ball dead in-goal (e.g. over-turning a goal-line drop-out into 20m restart), but not a sideline error. In both instances isn't the ball out of play and technically a stoppage in which the bunker can over-rule?

It seems to me the touchies are so obsessed now with the "planting of the foot" when a winger attempts to score, that they miss the back foot. Joey Manu last week was slight but clear - back foot momentarily brushes the line.

Ferguson on Sunday - his back foot clearly swipes the line and then his whole hip is touching the turf whilst he is still touching the football. The commentators all said on replay it still looked he went out, but then moved on with it. But it's a very large mistake in the context of any match, esp one tied 4-4.

Sorry for dark snaps, Kayo drops the brightness when I move off-screen to capture.

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Its simple , the NRL wants us to move
 
I thought our 3rd try where Mbye dropped the ball forwards and Jennings picked it up and scored was a mistake in a favour. The Ferguson foot on the line had a much bigger impact on the result.
 
@hobbo1 not to condone it.. but that’s still an option for me next time we get a Clanger
 
@Sart0ri said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1035048) said:
I thought our 3rd try where Mbye dropped the ball forwards and Jennings picked it up and scored was a mistake in a favour. The Ferguson foot on the line had a much bigger impact on the result.

It was a half pass from mbye tho

He sort of pushed the ball backwards
 
Very Well Done @jirskyr: photographic evidence that We were dudded :skull_and_crossbones: :white_frowning_face: . You can't get anything better than that :v: :relaxed:
 
It may well be '' fush n chup paper by now'' @Geo but I reckon if enough evidence as good as this can be put together and presented to the NRL, enough pressure could be applied to force change somewhere in the system.
As a sideline...I still have the Sydney Morning Herald from the day of President Kennedy's assassination, and that certainly won't become fush n chup paper while I am alive, cheers mate :relaxed:
 
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@TheDaBoss: I don't know about any of the sorta stuff this referee is on and you 'seem' to know all about [hahaha by the way] but I imagine it would be so much fun!!! :relaxed:
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1035083) said:
It may well be '' fush n chup paper by now'' @Geo but I reckon if enough evidence as good as this can be put together and presented to the NRL, enough pressure could be applied to force change somewhere in the system.
As a sideline...I still have the Sydney Morning Herald from the day of President Kennedy's assassination, and that certainly won't become fush n chup paper while I am alive, cheers mate :relaxed:

Best of luck with that...
 
Did anyone else think Lane planted his foot back in the field of play before knocking on with the out on the full call? If so, wouldn't the call be incorrect, or are they only deemed in if two feet land?
 
@old_man_tiger said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1035138) said:
Did anyone else think Lane planted his foot back in the field of play before knocking on with the out on the full call? If so, wouldn't the call be incorrect, or are they only deemed in if two feet land?

I checked and he definitely had his foot out when he touched the football - so it's the right decision.
 
@Tigerlily but you HAVE to love Annersley's statement that "it's not Australia's Got Talent"? The NRL certainly lacks talent in the refereeing and MRC areas! Maybe they need to run a talent show to find some decent referees. A bad joke at the moment. 👎
 
@Madgic said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1041474) said:
@Tigerlily but you HAVE to love Annersley's statement that "it's not Australia's Got Talent"? The NRL certainly lacks talent in the refereeing and MRC areas! Maybe they need to run a talent show to find some decent referees. A bad joke at the moment. 👎


Forget Australia’s got talent, it is more like Red Faces or the Gong show.
 
Maybe the referees should be paid 1k or 1.5k per game and then have 100 deducted for every mistake they make during the game.

Be a lot of hungry referees out there.
 
And if they did the same for the players

Refs make mistakes , players make mistakes

My bigger issues is the 50/50 calls .....why they never seem to go 50/50

This probably sounds insane , but why not just split the 50/50 calls

Ref admits it is 50/50 , Roosters advantage , next 50/50 call Wests Tigers advantage
 
@happy_tiger said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.😤🤬](/post/1041519) said:
And if they did the same for the players

Refs make mistakes , players make mistakes

My bigger issues is the 50/50 calls .....why they never seem to go 50/50

This probably sounds insane , but why not just split the 50/50 calls

Ref admits it is 50/50 , Roosters advantage , next 50/50 call Wests Tigers advantage

Mate that almost sounds like common sense...but then the conspiracy theorists will say the refs waited until the call benefited one team more than the other when the whistle was blown
 
@OzLuke said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.??](/post/1041527) said:
@happy_tiger said in [The NRL HQ & Refereeing incompetencies\.\.\.??](/post/1041519) said:
And if they did the same for the players

Refs make mistakes , players make mistakes

My bigger issues is the 50/50 calls .....why they never seem to go 50/50

This probably sounds insane , but why not just split the 50/50 calls

Ref admits it is 50/50 , Roosters advantage , next 50/50 call Wests Tigers advantage

Mate that almost sounds like common sense...but then the conspiracy theorists will say the refs waited until the call benefited one team more than the other when the whistle was blown


Honestly it’s just consistency we are all wanting. What’s wrong with reffing both teams fairly on the day - if it’s good for one team, then it’s good for the other. How hard is it to keep It balanced? It’s like the judicial system also, players do the exact same offence but get totally different sentences! It’s all so bloody obviously wrong! What happened to the Warriors the other day was almost criminal and beyond incompetent. It’s cold comfort to that team that Annesley comes out afterwards, admits the refs were wrong and sacks them for a week.
 

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