The two biggest excuses 'debunked'...

[aturkey]

Great idea, let’s use a sample size of one game to make some sweeping conclusions.

This comment has to be a joke. There is so much denial from fans like you. Last night was reflection of most of our games this year, and the past 10 years.

 

[Nelson]

Great idea, let’s use a sample size of one game to make some sweeping conclusions.

This comment has to be a joke. There is so much denial from fans like you. Last night was reflection of most of our games this year, and the past 10 years.

What denial? Do you think "fans like me" don't understand that the club has been crap for 10 years? Why don't you actually figure out the context of posts before having a crack at people with your condescending "fans like you" and "denial" crap.

 

[aturkey]

Great idea, let’s use a sample size of one game to make some sweeping conclusions.

This comment has to be a joke. There is so much denial from fans like you. Last night was reflection of most of our games this year, and the past 10 years.

What denial? Do you think "fans like me" don't understand that the club has been crap for 10 years? Why don't you actually figure out the context of posts before having a crack at people with your condescending "fans like you" and "denial" crap.

Okay I'll spell it out for you. The denial that caused you to act like last night wasn't a representation of a long history of repeating issues with Brooks and McGuire. The post was legitimately informative and telling, yet you shut it down like it wasn't. Denial.

 

[Nelson]

Great idea, let’s use a sample size of one game to make some sweeping conclusions.

This comment has to be a joke. There is so much denial from fans like you. Last night was reflection of most of our games this year, and the past 10 years.

What denial? Do you think "fans like me" don't understand that the club has been crap for 10 years? Why don't you actually figure out the context of posts before having a crack at people with your condescending "fans like you" and "denial" crap.

Okay I'll spell it out for you. The denial that caused you to act like last night wasn't a representation of a long history of repeating issues with Brooks and McGuire. The post was legitimately informative and telling, yet you shut it down like it wasn't. Denial.

...and yet I have already said in this thread, on page 4, before you commented:

"*The whole premise of the thread is that because of last night Brooks is crap even behind a pack that is dominating and Maguire is crap. If people want to draw those conclusions based on the last few years then fine, but every player and every team has bad games, so suddenly deciding that a single game proves anything is pretty stupid.*"

So no, I don't need you spelling anything out for me and I'm not in denial of anything.

 

[Bones]

Last night has officially ended the case for the two biggest excuses in Tigertown.

**Excuse One: Luke Brooks would be a different player behind a dominant pack**

Well, last night our pack dominated and Luke came up with the most clueless, uncontrolled, must win game of his career.

Stef 166
Joff 146
Twal 141
The backrowers combined for 200 plus

The platform was laid...and Brooksy failed. Badly. Yet again.

**Excuse number two: Madge does not have the roster he needs.**

Well, people can debate the roster all they like...but they CAN'T debate last night. Last night Madge had, by far, the superior roster. **The Warriors were depleted, had lost for two months straight, and conceded 60 recently...and lost their front row...and their best player / captain.**

Madge had a vastly better roster last night, but was completely clueless as to how to react when things went wrong / no adjustments yet again / outcoached by a very poor opponent. Once again, in a must win / big game Madge failed to get them to play for 80. He had, by far, the better roster last night. No excuses. None.

We can go back and forth on here and I myself have changed my opinion on Brooksy and Madge multiple times. But the debating is over. Massive must win game...dominant pack...vastly superior roster...

**And they both failed.**

It is over.

The commentary made note of this too, in fact they spent most of the game talking about it. Why is it no one mentions we were without Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, Roberts, Leilua, Musgrove, Kepaoa, Mikaele and we lost one of our best players after 2 minutes. Almost all of those guys are/were in our best 17.

To me what yesterday showed more than anything is our lack of depth, especially in the outside backs.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Great idea, let’s use a sample size of one game to make some sweeping conclusions.

This comment has to be a joke. There is so much denial from fans like you. Last night was reflection of most of our games this year, and the past 10 years.

100000% right.

To those saying I based it on 'one' game...umm, no. I did not list all the other failures and they are well documented.

Anyone still with faith, well all power to you.

But anyone with common sense knows what is reality at the point.

There is just no debating this anymore. Anyone who is asking for more Brooks and Madge really should have ZERO right to complain when we keep on losing. Brooksy is a fav of mine, but he has never stood up in a big must win game. Not once. Never. He has had 7 years.

And Madge is coaching around 37% since 2015.

Think about both those things and, after you do, if you still don't want change....then there really is nothing left to say.

 

[mike]

Last night has officially ended the case for the two biggest excuses in Tigertown.

**Excuse One: Luke Brooks would be a different player behind a dominant pack**

Well, last night our pack dominated and Luke came up with the most clueless, uncontrolled, must win game of his career.

Stef 166
Joff 146
Twal 141
The backrowers combined for 200 plus

The platform was laid...and Brooksy failed. Badly. Yet again.

**Excuse number two: Madge does not have the roster he needs.**

Well, people can debate the roster all they like...but they CAN'T debate last night. Last night Madge had, by far, the superior roster. **The Warriors were depleted, had lost for two months straight, and conceded 60 recently...and lost their front row...and their best player / captain.**

Madge had a vastly better roster last night, but was completely clueless as to how to react when things went wrong / no adjustments yet again / outcoached by a very poor opponent. Once again, in a must win / big game Madge failed to get them to play for 80. He had, by far, the better roster last night. No excuses. None.

We can go back and forth on here and I myself have changed my opinion on Brooksy and Madge multiple times. But the debating is over. Massive must win game...dominant pack...vastly superior roster...

**And they both failed.**

It is over.

The commentary made note of this too, in fact they spent most of the game talking about it. Why is it no one mentions we were without Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, Roberts, Leilua, Musgrove, Kepaoa, Mikaele and we lost one of our best players **after 2 minutes**. Almost all of those guys are/were in our best 17.

To me what yesterday showed more than anything is our lack of depth, especially in the outside backs.

40 seconds.

 

[Needaname]

Last night has officially ended the case for the two biggest excuses in Tigertown.

**Excuse One: Luke Brooks would be a different player behind a dominant pack**

Well, last night our pack dominated and Luke came up with the most clueless, uncontrolled, must win game of his career.

Stef 166
Joff 146
Twal 141
The backrowers combined for 200 plus

The platform was laid...and Brooksy failed. Badly. Yet again.

**Excuse number two: Madge does not have the roster he needs.**

Well, people can debate the roster all they like...but they CAN'T debate last night. Last night Madge had, by far, the superior roster. **The Warriors were depleted, had lost for two months straight, and conceded 60 recently...and lost their front row...and their best player / captain.**

Madge had a vastly better roster last night, but was completely clueless as to how to react when things went wrong / no adjustments yet again / outcoached by a very poor opponent. Once again, in a must win / big game Madge failed to get them to play for 80. He had, by far, the better roster last night. No excuses. None.

We can go back and forth on here and I myself have changed my opinion on Brooksy and Madge multiple times. But the debating is over. Massive must win game...dominant pack...vastly superior roster...

**And they both failed.**

It is over.

The commentary made note of this too, in fact they spent most of the game talking about it. Why is it no one mentions we were without Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, Roberts, Leilua, Musgrove, Kepaoa, Mikaele and we lost one of our best players after 2 minutes. Almost all of those guys are/were in our best 17.

To me what yesterday showed more than anything is our lack of depth, especially in the outside backs.

Really makes you worried when you realise our senior and big contract players take up a third of the cap and the other 2 thirds is spent on our ‘lack of depth’ we have spent what, 6 mil on guys with less than 50 games of experience?