Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap

[cochise]

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well, I don't know where you are going to get one apart from Kings Cross.

That's why it should have been a priority as soon as Liddle was injured!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well, I don't know where you are going to get one apart from Kings Cross.

That's why it should have been a priority as soon as Liddle was injured!

Well it wasn't, you can't blame Liddle for that.

He is the best DH that has been talked about playing for us, unfortunately he is injured, we have to make do until he can play.

I'm happy to wait. Looks like Madge is as well

Where did I blame Liddle? just saying we are damaging our season by waiting for him!

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

Mate i wasnt singling out Liddle i was stating the obvious, i quite like him as a player, but your right if there's a player any player who isnt standing up and they are out of contract like Liddle will be end of next season maybe its best they move on too. The reason i didnt mention any other player in similar circumstances is we are in a thread about a hooker to replace Liddle because he is injured.

 

[Harvey]

We just need to identify a decent fill in the skill set you want from your 9 is dependent on the style of football you want to play. A couple of years ago Damien Cook was a 2nd rate fullback/winger

 

[851]

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well, I don't know where you are going to get one apart from Kings Cross.

That's why it should have been a priority as soon as Liddle was injured!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well the point is, Grant is not coming apparently.

Walters and Simpkins are untried at NRL level.

Reynolds and Mbye are not DH's.

Instead of singling only Liddle out, maybe @The_Doc in his post should have said "If any or all of these guys don't step up to the plate next season, let the ones who fail go" - maybe they might be better in another environment too.

It is not only Liddle that has to step up, every player in the squad does.

We need a hooker in a couple of weeks, not halfway through the season!

Well, I don't know where you are going to get one apart from Kings Cross.

That's why it should have been a priority as soon as Liddle was injured!

Well it wasn't, you can't blame Liddle for that.

He is the best DH that has been talked about playing for us, unfortunately he is injured, we have to make do until he can play.

I'm happy to wait. Looks like Madge is as well

Where did I blame Liddle? just saying we are damaging our season by waiting for him!

Spot on, and given his history with injuries we might be waiting a long while, and I think Madge realises this and that's why he bought Simpkin, and now is trying to get Grant, Liddle has slipped down the pecking order

 

[boonboon]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-had-my-bags-packed-hooker-at-centre-of-aborted-player-swap-opens-up-20200219-p542fe.html

 

[WT2K]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-had-my-bags-packed-hooker-at-centre-of-aborted-player-swap-opens-up-20200219-p542fe.html

By Adrian Proszenko
February 19, 2020 — 6.12pm
Melbourne hooker Harry Grant, presented with a unique opportunity to replace legendary rakes Robbie Farah and Cameron Smith in successive seasons, had already packed his bags.

“I’ve had the car full of gear for almost a month,” Grant said.


“It’s obviously been tough mentally - my arse is at training but my head is at Concord.

“I’ve had about six or seven going away parties. The hardest thing mentally is that for four weeks I’m thinking I’m playing NRL in a Tigers jersey and it was very exciting.

“It’s obviously hard when you look at the player welfare side of things. You rock up to training every day and give your best but there’s still that little thought in the back of your mind whether you’ll be there the next day or not.”


Grant was poised to be part of an historic “loan” arrangement that would have resulted in a player swap with Wests Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season before the players returned to their original clubs in November.

The pair have been in limbo for the last month as they awaited an official decision from the NRL, who this week finally blocked the move because it ruled it would have put the Storm over the salary cap.

The decision is a hammer blow for Grant. While Momirovski is guaranteed a starting NRL spot regardless of whether he’s at the Storm or Tigers, Grant’s first-grade progression is blocked by hooking teammates Cameron Smith and Brandon Smith in Victoria, limiting his chances of adding to his two first-grade appearances.

Speaking for the first time about his predicament, Grant hoped the NRL would tinker its transfer rules to allow developing players better avenues to first-grade football.


“I hope somehow they can look back over the decision,” Grant told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

“This should be something that we can do. It’s not like we’re both marquee players … me and Paul are just a couple of minimum-wage players looking for an opportunity to develop as footballers. Both clubs would benefit.

“I reckon going forward there might be some rules they might change or put in place.

“If you’re swapping players on a similar amount of money, it gives more opportunity. I don’t think one club is benefiting more than the other, everyone is on par.

“It’s not a way to try to rort the salary cap and get a win, it’s two clubs trying to develop players and fill holes in their roster.”


There is another intriguing twist in Grant’s playing future. Although he is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2023, he has a get-out clause if Cameron Smith plays on next year.

“The thing is Cameron is still playing and training the best he ever has, he could keep playing for another two, three or four years,” Grant said.

“If I get to the end of this year and Cameron is still playing, I’ll have to look at my options.”

Despite being one of the most promising young hookers in the game, Grant will be forced to bide his time playing in the Queensland Cup if an alternate arrangement can’t be struck. The 21-year-old hopes the Storm will release him to the Tigers to benefit his development, even if they don’t get Momirovski back in return.

“For my development, I believe the next step for me is to play NRL and unfortunately I won’t get too many games at Melbourne,” Grant said.


“I’m hoping for [a release]. As selfless as it would be for the club, long-term it would benefit the club.

“I’m open to it, the Tigers are open to it but whether the Storm is, I’d have to sit down and have a chat with [coach] Craig Bellamy and [CEO] Dave [Donaghy]. I don’t know how it works, if I go now they might have to sign a new player and be in the same boat (with the salary cap).

“What I need now development-wise is to play footy at a higher level at NRL. I might have to chase that elsewhere and the Tigers is a good opportunity for both parties."

Grant and Momirovski have formed a bond during their ordeals. They once roomed together in camp ahead of a Nines tournament and the plan was for Momirovski to move into Grant’s Melbourne unit if the transfer went ahead.

“We have formed a bit of a relationship and chat here and there if we have any info for each other,” Grant said.

“I have been getting called ‘Paul’ a bit by the boys at training.”

 

[JC99]

Keep pushing for it Harry Grant 👍🏻

 

[Cairnstigers]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-had-my-bags-packed-hooker-at-centre-of-aborted-player-swap-opens-up-20200219-p542fe.html


By Adrian Proszenko
February 19, 2020 — 6.12pm
Melbourne hooker Harry Grant, presented with a unique opportunity to replace legendary rakes Robbie Farah and Cameron Smith in successive seasons, had already packed his bags.

“I’ve had the car full of gear for almost a month,” Grant said.


“It’s obviously been tough mentally - my arse is at training but my head is at Concord.

“I’ve had about six or seven going away parties. The hardest thing mentally is that for four weeks I’m thinking I’m playing NRL in a Tigers jersey and it was very exciting.

“It’s obviously hard when you look at the player welfare side of things. You rock up to training every day and give your best but there’s still that little thought in the back of your mind whether you’ll be there the next day or not.”


Grant was poised to be part of an historic “loan” arrangement that would have resulted in a player swap with Wests Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season before the players returned to their original clubs in November.

The pair have been in limbo for the last month as they awaited an official decision from the NRL, who this week finally blocked the move because it ruled it would have put the Storm over the salary cap.

The decision is a hammer blow for Grant. While Momirovski is guaranteed a starting NRL spot regardless of whether he’s at the Storm or Tigers, Grant’s first-grade progression is blocked by hooking teammates Cameron Smith and Brandon Smith in Victoria, limiting his chances of adding to his two first-grade appearances.

Speaking for the first time about his predicament, Grant hoped the NRL would tinker its transfer rules to allow developing players better avenues to first-grade football.


“I hope somehow they can look back over the decision,” Grant told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

“This should be something that we can do. It’s not like we’re both marquee players … me and Paul are just a couple of minimum-wage players looking for an opportunity to develop as footballers. Both clubs would benefit.

“I reckon going forward there might be some rules they might change or put in place.

“If you’re swapping players on a similar amount of money, it gives more opportunity. I don’t think one club is benefiting more than the other, everyone is on par.

“It’s not a way to try to rort the salary cap and get a win, it’s two clubs trying to develop players and fill holes in their roster.”


There is another intriguing twist in Grant’s playing future. Although he is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2023, he has a get-out clause if Cameron Smith plays on next year.

“The thing is Cameron is still playing and training the best he ever has, he could keep playing for another two, three or four years,” Grant said.

“If I get to the end of this year and Cameron is still playing, I’ll have to look at my options.”

Despite being one of the most promising young hookers in the game, Grant will be forced to bide his time playing in the Queensland Cup if an alternate arrangement can’t be struck. The 21-year-old hopes the Storm will release him to the Tigers to benefit his development, even if they don’t get Momirovski back in return.

“For my development, I believe the next step for me is to play NRL and unfortunately I won’t get too many games at Melbourne,” Grant said.


“I’m hoping for [a release]. As selfless as it would be for the club, long-term it would benefit the club.

“I’m open to it, the Tigers are open to it but whether the Storm is, I’d have to sit down and have a chat with [coach] Craig Bellamy and [CEO] Dave [Donaghy]. I don’t know how it works, if I go now they might have to sign a new player and be in the same boat (with the salary cap).

“What I need now development-wise is to play footy at a higher level at NRL. I might have to chase that elsewhere and the Tigers is a good opportunity for both parties."

Grant and Momirovski have formed a bond during their ordeals. They once roomed together in camp ahead of a Nines tournament and the plan was for Momirovski to move into Grant’s Melbourne unit if the transfer went ahead.

“We have formed a bit of a relationship and chat here and there if we have any info for each other,” Grant said.

“I have been getting called ‘Paul’ a bit by the boys at training.”

I have a solution
We will loan Momirovski for Brandon Smith
Surely the money would be similar
Harry grant can take Brandons spot
Solved
I don't know why I didn't think of that before
Come on you guys
Put your thinking caps on
Photo of Happy1 with his cap on 

 

[barnzee]

Why resign with Melbourne if you know there are 2 in front of you, back to the sunny coast you go son

 

[bathursttiger1]

From that article, Harry Grant seems like a pretty level headed kid.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Geez hope he gets a release and we can snare him.
He seems really hungry. Love how he talks concord & at us in a positive way.
Only issue with it would be we lose our last roster spot.

 

[hammertime]

Geez hope he gets a release and we can snare him.
He seems really hungry. Love how he talks concord & at us in a positive way.
Only issue with it would be we lose our last roster spot.

The last roster spot for a hooker we desperately need? Will be a good use of it.

Packer might free up one anyway.

 

[The_Patriot]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-had-my-bags-packed-hooker-at-centre-of-aborted-player-swap-opens-up-20200219-p542fe.html


By Adrian Proszenko
February 19, 2020 — 6.12pm
Melbourne hooker Harry Grant, presented with a unique opportunity to replace legendary rakes Robbie Farah and Cameron Smith in successive seasons, had already packed his bags.

“I’ve had the car full of gear for almost a month,” Grant said.


“It’s obviously been tough mentally - my arse is at training but my head is at Concord.

“I’ve had about six or seven going away parties. The hardest thing mentally is that for four weeks I’m thinking I’m playing NRL in a Tigers jersey and it was very exciting.

“It’s obviously hard when you look at the player welfare side of things. You rock up to training every day and give your best but there’s still that little thought in the back of your mind whether you’ll be there the next day or not.”


Grant was poised to be part of an historic “loan” arrangement that would have resulted in a player swap with Wests Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season before the players returned to their original clubs in November.

The pair have been in limbo for the last month as they awaited an official decision from the NRL, who this week finally blocked the move because it ruled it would have put the Storm over the salary cap.

The decision is a hammer blow for Grant. While Momirovski is guaranteed a starting NRL spot regardless of whether he’s at the Storm or Tigers, Grant’s first-grade progression is blocked by hooking teammates Cameron Smith and Brandon Smith in Victoria, limiting his chances of adding to his two first-grade appearances.

Speaking for the first time about his predicament, Grant hoped the NRL would tinker its transfer rules to allow developing players better avenues to first-grade football.


“I hope somehow they can look back over the decision,” Grant told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

“This should be something that we can do. It’s not like we’re both marquee players … me and Paul are just a couple of minimum-wage players looking for an opportunity to develop as footballers. Both clubs would benefit.

“I reckon going forward there might be some rules they might change or put in place.

“If you’re swapping players on a similar amount of money, it gives more opportunity. I don’t think one club is benefiting more than the other, everyone is on par.

“It’s not a way to try to rort the salary cap and get a win, it’s two clubs trying to develop players and fill holes in their roster.”


There is another intriguing twist in Grant’s playing future. Although he is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2023, he has a get-out clause if Cameron Smith plays on next year.

“The thing is Cameron is still playing and training the best he ever has, he could keep playing for another two, three or four years,” Grant said.

“If I get to the end of this year and Cameron is still playing, I’ll have to look at my options.”

Despite being one of the most promising young hookers in the game, Grant will be forced to bide his time playing in the Queensland Cup if an alternate arrangement can’t be struck. The 21-year-old hopes the Storm will release him to the Tigers to benefit his development, even if they don’t get Momirovski back in return.

“For my development, I believe the next step for me is to play NRL and unfortunately I won’t get too many games at Melbourne,” Grant said.


“I’m hoping for [a release]. As selfless as it would be for the club, long-term it would benefit the club.

“I’m open to it, the Tigers are open to it but whether the Storm is, I’d have to sit down and have a chat with [coach] Craig Bellamy and [CEO] Dave [Donaghy]. I don’t know how it works, if I go now they might have to sign a new player and be in the same boat (with the salary cap).

“What I need now development-wise is to play footy at a higher level at NRL. I might have to chase that elsewhere and the Tigers is a good opportunity for both parties."

Grant and Momirovski have formed a bond during their ordeals. They once roomed together in camp ahead of a Nines tournament and the plan was for Momirovski to move into Grant’s Melbourne unit if the transfer went ahead.

“We have formed a bit of a relationship and chat here and there if we have any info for each other,” Grant said.

“I have been getting called ‘Paul’ a bit by the boys at training.”

I Love this guy. Genuine and can tell he is the real deal by the way he handles himself and what he has to say.

 

[nrlsurvivor]

“My arse is at training but my head is at Concord”. Love it. Let’s find a way to get his arse here too.

 

[AJ1]

If we can snare Grant and keep Momo at the same time I'll be over the moon

 

[happy_tiger]

More chance LM will change him mind and come here than the Grant / Momo swap

 

[jrtiger]

poor bloke, would've been living out of the back of his car for weeks. hopefully Melbourne can shift their cap and we can get a resolution, would love to have him here.

 

[tony soprano]

U can Tell he wants out even using the welfare card. I agree with him, but why did he re-sign with storm knowing his behind smith. Should of signed with another club.

 

[AJ1]

U can Tell he wants out even using the welfare card. I agree with him, but why did he re-sign with storm knowing his behind smith. Should of signed with another club.

At the time Smith was 50/50 (apparently) on whether to play on. I guess Grant could accept one more year of development but had the sense to put a clause into his contract for 2021 in case Smith decides to play on longer.
This whole trade shows what type of a person Smith is. You'd think for the sake of $16k ($8k after tax), with the contract he is on Smith would take a pay cut to give the club cap space to allow the swap to happen.
No doubt Benji, Lawrence or Farah would do that for us.

 

[TillLindemann]

From that article, Harry Grant seems like a pretty level headed kid.

I thought the opposite, the whole thing read pretty sooky to me.