Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap

@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111794) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Would be devastating Avo, wrist slashing stuff for me.

I think he is a real goodun' and is going to get better year by year.

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111803) said:
@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111794) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Would be devastating Avo, wrist slashing stuff for me.

I think he is a real goodun' and is going to get better year by year.

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

Havn't slept a wink in days, Avo - ruined my life.
 
@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111804) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111803) said:
@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111794) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Would be devastating Avo, wrist slashing stuff for me.

I think he is a real goodun' and is going to get better year by year.

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

Havn't slept a wink in days, Avo - ruined my life.

Here’s something to cheer you up

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@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Half way through last season all and sundry wanted Momo punted , with the amount of players being moved on this season I certainly would not jump to give him an extra 2 seasons
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111808) said:
@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111804) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111803) said:
@Russell said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111794) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Would be devastating Avo, wrist slashing stuff for me.

I think he is a real goodun' and is going to get better year by year.

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

Havn't slept a wink in days, Avo - ruined my life.

Here’s something to cheer you up

![18B64FEF-B5CC-4EC1-9C74-F02B3A9CD560.png](/assets/uploads/files/1580720398732-18b64fef-b5cc-4ec1-9c74-f02b3a9cd560.png)

The Plodder of the decade!
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111762) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111743) said:
@hammertime said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111571) said:
@supercoach said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111568) said:
All this doubt Momo will not come back and Bellyache has a sinister plot is total rubbish.
He will be back and he will sign a extended deal...this deal is all about both clubs getting themself out of a short term jam...nothing more. We badly need the season to start so people have other things to invent sinister plots about

Pascoe has already said they're locking him down now on an extended deal. I believe that it's why it's taking a little while.

I doubt Momo will be extended - more like a swap to usurp the current swap when it expires.
Smoke and mirrors by Pasco until that is revealed/confirmed I anticipate.

He’ll be extended, otherwise there’s no point in doing a swap/loan in the first place. If tigers didn’t want to extend him they wouldn’t of gone through the whole process

100% he'll be extended.
 
@Snake said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111809) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111549) said:
@TonyTiger said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1111527) said:
Bellamy was smart to re-sign Grant recently for a further 3 years in preparation for the “loan” deal.
I hope we’re not dumb enough to send Momo down there unsigned beyond 2020 otherwise we have no bargaining chip and Bellamy will grab Momo beyond 2020 and also have Grant back in his stable.
Hopefully this swap deal is all about getting JAC here next year, we can always release Momo early to the Storm next year should he work out for them down there, however we must take the necessary insurance steps to ensure he’s not a free agent beyond his swap tenure at the Storm.
Goal kicking centres don’t grow on trees.
I hope Bellamy”s intentions are not sinister and surely we covering ourselves appropriately.

Would it be the end of the world if he didn't come back? Imo it wouldn't be all that hard to find someone of his quality on the market. He tries hard but I don't think he's as good as his wraps.

Half way through last season all and sundry wanted Momo punted , with the amount of players being moved on this season I certainly would not jump to give him an extra 2 seasons

He's getting an extension for the wrong reason.
 
Cameron Smith backs radical Tigers-Storm swap deal to prepare his No.9 heir for the big time

Melbourne captain Cameron Smith has thrown his support behind the idea of player trade deals in the NRL, saying we will probably start to see more of it in rugby league.

Smith’s comments to foxsports.com.au came in response to news breaking last week of the Storm and Tigers negotiating a one-year swap of respective players Harry Grant and Paul Momirovksi.

Grant, 21, is one of the brighest young hookers in the game and has long been considered the heir to Smith’s No.9 jersey in the Victorian capital.


The Tigers are in need of a genuine rake with Jacob Liddle returning from injury and Josh Reynolds in the midst of a court case.

Melbourne are looking for some depth in the outside backs since the exit of Will Chambers and Curtis Scott over the off-season, hence their interest in Momirovksi.

The one-year swap deal is somewhat of a radical and unique concept in Australian rugby league but Smith is a fan of the idea.

“I don’t mind the concept. Obviously it needs to be the right thing for both clubs, whenever a transfer or a loan is on offer,” Smith told foxsports.com.au.

Grant has had a taste of NRL footy at the Storm, but with Smith deciding to play again in 2020 the younger rake would struggle for a spot in the team.


The Tigers will likely be able to give Grant plenty of experience in an NRL team throughout the season, and Melbourne’s hope is the young hooker returns to the Storm next year ready to slot into the first grade side.

“In Harry’s case, he is all for it given he gets the opportunity to get some experience,” Smith said.

“In the long term looking to play his career back at Melbourne... I know it’s a bit strange because it’s never happened before in our game, and it would be a little bit different if he was to play first grade this year and we had to play against him.

“But for him, just speaking to him over the last couple of weeks, it’s more about the opportunity to gain experience to then come back and play first grade at Melbourne.

“It’s a very different one, but at the moment I think that’s what he feels is best for him, and if it’s the right fit for our club as well with the transfer of another player then I think it’s a good thing for the game.”


Grant is considered by many good judges as the best young hooker not playing full-time NRL yet.

He and Brandon Smith are waiting in the wings to grab the No.9 jumper once Cameron Smith retires from the game.

And the veteran is making sure his jersey is left in safe hands.

“Harry is just a competitor. He’s extremely fit, he works really hard at training. He’s still plenty of development in him in terms of his skills and the way he reads the game,” Smith said.

“That’s part of the enjoyment I’ve had in the last couple of years is working with guys like him and Brandon Smith, trying to help those guys along and offer advice wherever I can.

“The thing I’ve been really impressed with those two guys in particular is they are always looking to be better, they’re not afraid to come and ask questions. If they need advice or want advice they come up and ask me questions.

“I think for both of those guys, and Brandon in particular has showed his capabilities over the last 18 months.

“We’re pretty fortunate to have those two guys doing their time, waiting to get the starting spot at the Storm.”

The Tigers and Storm are yet to confirm the swap deal.

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/storm/cameron-smith-backs-radical-tigersstorm-swap-deal-to-prepare-his-no9-heir-for-the-big-time/news-story/275309183d5d93c0f4e538dd6c9df100?fbclid=IwAR3oHLrFQad40A6uUPxoSxtQH2EJp7cBB9D21XK5E5AX0cvy9XUWAhtZJTc

Well CEO Refs boss and RLPA Cammy has given his seal of approval...only a matter of time now..
 
Probably just waiting for Toddy to settle back into the big seat after his strenuous fact finding junket in the states. Will be nervous till I get my members email with confirmation Toddy has signed off on the deal.
 
@Geo said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112345) said:
Cameron Smith backs radical Tigers-Storm swap deal to prepare his No.9 heir for the big time
Melbourne captain Cameron Smith has thrown his support behind the idea of player trade deals in the NRL, saying we will probably start to see more of it in rugby league.

King Cam Smith has spoken - it will be approved by the NRL and he will be given a diamond ring too for his troubles in supporting it :joy:
 
@4jtigers said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112350) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112345) said:
Cameron Smith backs radical Tigers-Storm swap deal to prepare his No.9 heir for the big time
Melbourne captain Cameron Smith has thrown his support behind the idea of player trade deals in the NRL, saying we will probably start to see more of it in rugby league.

King Cam Smith has spoken - it will be approved by the NRL and he will be given a diamond ring too for his troubles in supporting it :joy:

Saw on Foxsports last night, Hooper say congrats to both the Tigers and the Storm for getting the NRL to approve this the first player swap in the NRL .. ?? Does that mean the NRL have already approved this .. ??
 
@TigerSkins said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112355) said:
@4jtigers said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112350) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112345) said:
Cameron Smith backs radical Tigers-Storm swap deal to prepare his No.9 heir for the big time
Melbourne captain Cameron Smith has thrown his support behind the idea of player trade deals in the NRL, saying we will probably start to see more of it in rugby league.

King Cam Smith has spoken - it will be approved by the NRL and he will be given a diamond ring too for his troubles in supporting it :joy:

Saw on Foxsports last night, Hooper say congrats to both the Tigers and the Storm for getting the NRL to approve this the first player swap in the NRL .. ?? Does that mean the NRL have already approved this .. ??

[Pooper warning]
 
@TigerSkins said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112355) said:
@4jtigers said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112350) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112345) said:
Cameron Smith backs radical Tigers-Storm swap deal to prepare his No.9 heir for the big time
Melbourne captain Cameron Smith has thrown his support behind the idea of player trade deals in the NRL, saying we will probably start to see more of it in rugby league.

King Cam Smith has spoken - it will be approved by the NRL and he will be given a diamond ring too for his troubles in supporting it :joy:

Saw on Foxsports last night, Hooper say congrats to both the Tigers and the Storm for getting the NRL to approve this the first player swap in the NRL .. ?? Does that mean the NRL have already approved this .. ??

no idea mate, only believe it when it is on the Official NRL website - you can't just believe what journalists says nowadays - just like what @jirskyr said [Pooper warning]

I was trying to be funny with the (wannabe) King Cam Smith comment (I guess I failed 😛ensive: )
 
Call me a cynic but I feel this loan deal is only the entree for the deal required to get South's a forward or two. I cannot see the NRL not wanting South's in the finals hence the approval of this deal so the real deal goes through.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112372) said:
Call me a cynic but I feel this loan deal is only the entree for the deal required to get South's a forward or two. I cannot see the NRL not wanting South's in the finals hence the approval of this deal so the real deal goes through.

how could a swap between and us and Melbourne have anything to do with Souths?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112377) said:
Set the precedent with this one. then follow it with the real deal on the back of the first approval.

Not sure I follow, but in any case if they're trying to do what you're suggesting then the NRL would have had to instigate this loan swap, otherwise they're opportunistic and just got EXTREMELY lucky.
 
There could easily be a condition put in place that loans can only occur with players aged 23 and under, or who have played no more than 40 first grade games etc. To make it about giving youth a shot
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112383) said:
There could easily be a condition put in place that loans can only occur with players aged 23 and under, or who have played no more than 40 first grade games etc. To make it about giving youth a shot



@balmain-boy said in [Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap](/post/1112383) said:
There could easily be a condition put in place that loans can only occur with players aged 23 and under, or who have played no more than 40 first grade games etc. To make it about giving youth a shot

That is far to sensible an idea for the NRL to come up with so Toddles could not possibly allow that to happen
 
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