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We need to get these backs some forward power, a run on prop and lock or these gun backs we have will be playing off the back foot. I’d be prepared to give Doobs a crack at lock but I’m not banking on him.
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Where are you finding the try causes stat? Which website?PART 3
The High-Leverage Defensive Exposure
This brings us to the real problem, and it's the exact reason why the forum debates get so heated. Standard match stats credit Doueihi with a low missed-tackle count at halfback at 1.8 per game. On paper, that looks mathematically sound against the competition halfback median of 2.5 missed tackles.
But raw tackle volumes completely lie because they ignore spatial context. Standard tracking treats a missed tackle on the opposition's 40-metre line exactly the same as a missed tackle on our own goal line and a rush out of the line does not get recorded. To see where the line is actually fracturing, we have to look at Try Causes and Line Break Causes, which track direct culpability for defensive failures.
While Doueihi doesn't miss a high volume of tackles, his misses create opposition points. Conceding 1.3 line breaks and 0.8 try causes per game at halfback is a massive issue. It means when he does make an error or makes a poor read, it is catastrophic. His heavy frame is clearly struggling to make the rapid lateral adjustments required to defend as an agile edge half.
We saw this play out in real time over our recent three-match window against the Knights, Dragons, and Warriors, where our poor defensive efforts were only exceeded by our inability to create points.
Round 17 vs. Newcastle Knights (Lost 12-6): Doueihi let in 1 Try and allowed 1 Line Break; Luai had 1 Line Break Cause. A low missed-tackle baseline hid critical edge deficiencies.
Round 18 vs. St. George Illawarra Dragons (Lost 24-10): Doueihi let in 1 Try and allowed 2 Line Breaks, while Madden (playing the 7 role) let in 1 Try and allowed a Line Break. Madden kicked well (358m), but both playmakers bit on fatal, panic-driven defensive jams.
Round 19 vs. New Zealand Warriors (Lost 32-6): Doueihi let in 2 Tries and caused 2 Line Breaks; Luai also leaked 2 Tres and allowed 3 Line Breaks. This was a total defensive system collapse. While Doueihi gained 141.0 run metres, his 2 Try Causes and the allowed Line Breaks were the result of extremely poor defensive execution.
Tactical Solution: Moving AD to Lock (13)
So, how do we fix the leak on the edge without losing our best yardage asset? Benji has to seriously consider transitioning AD permanently to Lock (13). Shifting Doueihi into the middle leverages his physical attributes while insulating his defensive weaknesses:
Neutralising the Lateral Edge Deficit: On the edge, halves are forced to jockey, slide, and make rapid tracking reads against agile outside backs. Moving Doueihi to 13 repositions him into the high-volume middle channel. In and around the ruck, defence relies on front-on contact, wrestling, and filling space. Doueihi's physical build and solid base would allow him to survive in a central defensive system where lateral movement is minimised.
Weaponising His Attack: At lock, Doueihi’s 135 run metres per game would become a powerful asset in the forward rotation. Taking hit-ups through the middle of the field would ease the burden on our starting prop rotation and generate the quick play-the-balls necessary to unlock our spine and could release Twal into the middle rotation as a benefit.
Introducing a Three-Pillar Ball-Playing Model: Moving to the 13 jersey wouldn't kill his creative efforts. A ball-playing 13 acts as a link, playing before the line and engaging middle defenders. This opens up the field, freeing up Luai and Latu to attack compressed defensive edges with our outside backs.
Tactical Timing: Pull the Trigger Now or Wait?
The critical question facing Benji Marshall is whether to transition AD to lock and elevate Latu Fainu to the halves immediately, or wait until the off-season. Given that the team has scored a meager total of just 22 points across the last three weeks, our current offensive strategy has clearly stalled. When you pair that lack of points with our current defensive fragility, evidenced by the halves conceding nine combined line break causes in those same 240 minutes, maintaining the status quo is no longer viable.
While some may argue for a patient off-season reset, making this change right now provides an immediate tactical spark. Rather than writing off the remaining rounds, altering the spine dynamic immediately serves a dual purpose: it offers a high-leverage circuit breaker that could mathematically ignite a late, desperate run to the finals, and it gives the coaching staff real-match data to stress-test this combination under genuine pressure ahead of next year.
Conclusion
Stripping away personal bias and examining the hard tracking data reveals that our halves configuration is caught in a strategic trap. Adam Doueihi’s elite individual carrying metrics (+114.3% run metres at halfback) are undeniable, but they are completely offset by his defensive fragility (+166.7% try causes) and a major long-kicking deficit.
While throwing Latu Fainu into the mix doesn't instantly solve that long-kicking void, it forces a necessary shift: Jarome Luai must step up and take absolute ownership of the general kicking game. Transitioning Doueihi permanently to lock leverages his physical power through the middle third while masking his lateral defensive frailties on the edge. It also provides a third kicking option.
By introducing this ball-playing middle model alongside Luai and Fainu immediately, we can address our current point-scoring drought and defensive fragility. This data-backed adjustment offers the most logical pathway to salvage the current season and establish long-term structural stability.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Like you said does he have the motor along with the size, power and toughness to handle the middle.Love your analysis of everything however I can't see how shifting Doueihi into the middle is the answer, opposition middles would be licking their lips at the prospect of having a bloke that won't tackle in the middle. Doesn't have the motor to be a middle either so even if he could handle the washing machine of the middle defence it would nullify his running game. I get where you're coming from, I used to think he'd make a great modern day lock but the more I see of him the less I think he's suited to that. It's a bloody conundrum I know that much. Cheers
Hi WT,Where are you finding the try causes stat? Which website?
Thanks mate. Looks like it's still there on fox sports labs.Hi WT,
I grabbed the standard stuff run metres and tackles etc directly from the NRL.com stats. I couldn't find the Try Causes and Line Break Causes at first. From my understanding they are produced by Fox Sports Labs and distributed by Stats Perform (I think that is correct). Anyway the expanded set of data is behind a paywall.
I asked Google's AI to figure out a way to get to the data I was chasing. It walked me though me how to get into the backend network data on NRL.com and I followed the bouncing ball from there. I have been back digging and the files are either no longer there or have been hidden from public view.
From what I understand this is the same data that the media and clubs purchase. The Rugby League Eye Test also has data but it is less timely. I'm not sure if the he does the analysis himself or if he has a commercial subscription. Someone with hacking skills can probably get to the match data which is where I found the additional stats.
I like your ‘outside the box’ thinking around our attack. Something I’ve been advocating since last season with regards to playing our multiple halves together - having 3 ball players or potential first receivers. Trying to make us a little less predictable with options on both sides as well as up the middle. We need to be pushing up in waves instead of the one out crap and the inevitable bomb.I agree 100%, and I expect Benji is in a similar predicament. My gut feel is that Benji knows that he is a weakness at centre and he had an out of the box plan to use his size at half as an advantage. While it was successful early his lack of passing threat means that without an edge/centre combination that pose a threat he can be readily contained - and everyone has figured out how to do it. Having not built up the reps as a 13 Benji may well be worried about shifting there this year (and maybe next).
I think we can fit him into the side at 13 and break out of the systems that drive many teams; similar to how Penrith/Cronulla developed the ball playing 13 into an artform. I like where they took that and I think we could take that basis and make AD a different type of threat. Apart from playing as a link he can sweep or, if used in tandem with a Twal to start, play with a fullback (AD/Bula) on each side. He is certainly big enough to have a crack at the middle. If we use him slightly different to Twal - he could really break the middle open.
The old X/Y play is certainly out of fashion; but with a player with AD's size and May/Pole having a bit of footwork at the line it could be devastating in the red zone; and I would love to see us rehash the Lockwood Pringle up the middle! There are certainly options in attack.
I'm not that concerned in defence as I think ADs two issues are: decison making and lateral movement. In the middle there aren't many decisions to make - you belt the guy in your lane! AD's problem, if anything, will be heart not physicality.
I’ve read it again as Doobs poor long kicking game has been on my mind since I read it the first time. You would think a bloke with his size i.e. long pendulum legs that can kick a very high ball, would get more purchase horizontally? Like old Patty long legs. And that got me thinking about our coaching systems, again. We have all said it before how come Hodgo can’t impart his backing up skills, Patty teach Doobs to kick longer, etc. or is it the players who don’t take it on, or doesn’t practice it enough?PART 3
The High-Leverage Defensive Exposure
This brings us to the real problem, and it's the exact reason why the forum debates get so heated. Standard match stats credit Doueihi with a low missed-tackle count at halfback at 1.8 per game. On paper, that looks mathematically sound against the competition halfback median of 2.5 missed tackles.
But raw tackle volumes completely lie because they ignore spatial context. Standard tracking treats a missed tackle on the opposition's 40-metre line exactly the same as a missed tackle on our own goal line and a rush out of the line does not get recorded. To see where the line is actually fracturing, we have to look at Try Causes and Line Break Causes, which track direct culpability for defensive failures.
While Doueihi doesn't miss a high volume of tackles, his misses create opposition points. Conceding 1.3 line breaks and 0.8 try causes per game at halfback is a massive issue. It means when he does make an error or makes a poor read, it is catastrophic. His heavy frame is clearly struggling to make the rapid lateral adjustments required to defend as an agile edge half.
We saw this play out in real time over our recent three-match window against the Knights, Dragons, and Warriors, where our poor defensive efforts were only exceeded by our inability to create points.
Round 17 vs. Newcastle Knights (Lost 12-6): Doueihi let in 1 Try and allowed 1 Line Break; Luai had 1 Line Break Cause. A low missed-tackle baseline hid critical edge deficiencies.
Round 18 vs. St. George Illawarra Dragons (Lost 24-10): Doueihi let in 1 Try and allowed 2 Line Breaks, while Madden (playing the 7 role) let in 1 Try and allowed a Line Break. Madden kicked well (358m), but both playmakers bit on fatal, panic-driven defensive jams.
Round 19 vs. New Zealand Warriors (Lost 32-6): Doueihi let in 2 Tries and caused 2 Line Breaks; Luai also leaked 2 Tres and allowed 3 Line Breaks. This was a total defensive system collapse. While Doueihi gained 141.0 run metres, his 2 Try Causes and the allowed Line Breaks were the result of extremely poor defensive execution.
Tactical Solution: Moving AD to Lock (13)
So, how do we fix the leak on the edge without losing our best yardage asset? Benji has to seriously consider transitioning AD permanently to Lock (13). Shifting Doueihi into the middle leverages his physical attributes while insulating his defensive weaknesses:
Neutralising the Lateral Edge Deficit: On the edge, halves are forced to jockey, slide, and make rapid tracking reads against agile outside backs. Moving Doueihi to 13 repositions him into the high-volume middle channel. In and around the ruck, defence relies on front-on contact, wrestling, and filling space. Doueihi's physical build and solid base would allow him to survive in a central defensive system where lateral movement is minimised.
Weaponising His Attack: At lock, Doueihi’s 135 run metres per game would become a powerful asset in the forward rotation. Taking hit-ups through the middle of the field would ease the burden on our starting prop rotation and generate the quick play-the-balls necessary to unlock our spine and could release Twal into the middle rotation as a benefit.
Introducing a Three-Pillar Ball-Playing Model: Moving to the 13 jersey wouldn't kill his creative efforts. A ball-playing 13 acts as a link, playing before the line and engaging middle defenders. This opens up the field, freeing up Luai and Latu to attack compressed defensive edges with our outside backs.
Tactical Timing: Pull the Trigger Now or Wait?
The critical question facing Benji Marshall is whether to transition AD to lock and elevate Latu Fainu to the halves immediately, or wait until the off-season. Given that the team has scored a meager total of just 22 points across the last three weeks, our current offensive strategy has clearly stalled. When you pair that lack of points with our current defensive fragility, evidenced by the halves conceding nine combined line break causes in those same 240 minutes, maintaining the status quo is no longer viable.
While some may argue for a patient off-season reset, making this change right now provides an immediate tactical spark. Rather than writing off the remaining rounds, altering the spine dynamic immediately serves a dual purpose: it offers a high-leverage circuit breaker that could mathematically ignite a late, desperate run to the finals, and it gives the coaching staff real-match data to stress-test this combination under genuine pressure ahead of next year.
Conclusion
Stripping away personal bias and examining the hard tracking data reveals that our halves configuration is caught in a strategic trap. Adam Doueihi’s elite individual carrying metrics (+114.3% run metres at halfback) are undeniable, but they are completely offset by his defensive fragility (+166.7% try causes) and a major long-kicking deficit.
While throwing Latu Fainu into the mix doesn't instantly solve that long-kicking void, it forces a necessary shift: Jarome Luai must step up and take absolute ownership of the general kicking game. Transitioning Doueihi permanently to lock leverages his physical power through the middle third while masking his lateral defensive frailties on the edge. It also provides a third kicking option.
By introducing this ball-playing middle model alongside Luai and Fainu immediately, we can address our current point-scoring drought and defensive fragility. This data-backed adjustment offers the most logical pathway to salvage the current season and establish long-term structural stability.
Thanks mate appreciate the feedback. The issue that I see with AD's kicking is a lack of control v his ability to kick long. This is combined with his desire to be the solution too often, and that is an attribute that he needs to get out of all aspects of his game as while ti is a strenght of his it is a liability for the team.I’ve read it again as Doobs poor long kicking game has been on my mind since I read it the first time. You would think a bloke with his size i.e. long pendulum legs that can kick a very high ball, would get more purchase horizontally? Like old Patty long legs. And that got me thinking about our coaching systems, again. We have all said it before how come Hodgo can’t impart his backing up skills, Patty teach Doobs to kick longer, etc. or is it the players who don’t take it on, or doesn’t practice it enough?
Anyway it’s been another year ruined by a DH player signing mid season- I hate our current system, give us a window and make both club and player stick to the terms.
I had half hour Jolls and instead of reading some giant masthead in the news I came back here to read a well written piece. 👍🏻
Why not? I'll see what I can pull together over the next few days. CheersJolls any time for a deep dive on Bula's general play,
Watching Bula on the weekend its obvious he is very tentative in both attack and defense. I have not watched the tgers play last 2 weeks, however my nephew came over so I was forced to watch the dogs game with him and I could see that Bula is playing to protect that shoulder, so are Makasini and AD...its really obvious, we need these three too all go and get themselves sorted before pre season. I just hope they are not delaying getting surgery because they want to play in the world cup. Surely thats not the case.PART 2 The Verdict
It’s easy to scream "post-contract complacency," but the data says that's rubbish. The kid is still working hard, but he is playing hurt and playing with legitimate concern. The contract just happened to be signed when he was at his most physically vulnerable.
[FACT] Wests Tigers Roster and Rehabilitation Status
2026 Injury Toll: Our squad has sustained consecutive structural injuries to primary roster positions. Long-term rehabilitation stints for key senior players have forced the club to heavily rely on underdeveloped and below first grade standard players in the latter part of the season. Playing injured players combined with our genuine lack of FG depth has us floundering at the back end of the season.
[BEST GUESS] So what are our options?
We have some options, but none of them are great:
The Decay, The Kids, and the Fullback Verdict
- Get the surgery done early now the season is all but over. While this is an option our fall back is Mason. Heath Mason has top-grade experience but has proven that, at fullback, he is not at NRL standard. Jack Attard and Logan Brooks remain highly rated prospects in our pathways systems; however, exposing one of our under developed pathways players to the rigour of the NRL grind poses both short, and long term, risk to the individuals as they lack the size required for, and the exposure to, NRL grind. This is clearly a viable option though.
- Wrap him in cotton wool defensively: The coaching staff need to fix the edge defence so Bula isn't the lone highway patrolman trying to stop a semi-trailer. This is not on Bula, but our three quarters are about as busted as he is so we are in a world of hurt.
- Strap it till he can't move: If it’s psychological, he needs structural reassurance. Strap the shoulder to high heaven and get him some early, easy front-on contact in a controlled training environment to break the mental barrier. Just don’t expect him to catch the high balls; this could potentially result in more points on the wrong side of the ledger.
Look, we can't look at Bula in a vacuum. The blunt reality is that our rehab room looks like a field hospital in the Ukraine. When the senior leadership is compromised, the whole team's defensive line speed drops, the markers are less effective, and opposition teams start rolling through the middle of the ruck for fun.
Because the rest of the team has hit a massive performance dip, Bula is operating behind a beaten pack, meaning he is starting his kick returns from his own ten-metre line with six angry defenders already in his face. It is a confidence killer for a young bloke trying to nurse a dodgy shoulder.
If the club decides to pull the pin on Bula's season early to get the shoulder surgically repaired, we are throwing the kids straight into the meat-grinder.
Recommendation: Book the Surgery Now
- The Upside: Giving Heath Mason a sustained crack at the number one jersey would not be the worst outcome given the season is over. Exposing pathway gems like Jack Attard or Logan Brooks to the NRL grind will builds serious resilience and exposes our depth for 2027.
- The Downside: The NRL is a brutal place for an unconditioned teenager. Throwing Brooks or Attard behind a struggling, beaten pack risks shattering their confidence entirely and exposing them to defensive physical trauma before their bodies are ready for the weekly collisions.
Based on the metrics, the play here is clear: Shut Jahream Bula down for early surgery. We aren’t playing finals footy this year, and trotting a million-dollar asset out every week to play at 60% capacity while hesitating in contact is doing more psychological damage than good.
Send him to the hospital, get the shoulder structurally anchored, and give him a full, unrestricted six-month pre-season. Let Heath Mason take the fullback reps for the rest of the year; he’s physically ready to absorb the punishment, and it protects our long-term investments in Bula and our pathways kids.
While we are at it; it is clear that AD and Makasini are in a similar boat. Their performances since return from injury are clearly below par. It has to be said that this is not through lack of effort.
Madden is a proven performer who can steer the ship and, when Latu comes back from his likely suspension, the next man up gets a crack at steering the ship. Saukuru is on a top 30 contract and has been performing OK in cup so deserves an opportunity to state his case at NRL level. This will give AD the best opportunity to put on the muscle required for him to transition to 13 or to operate as the 6 in 2027 and will allow Makasini time to recover and get a full off season behind him.
Conclusion
When you piece this entire jigsaw together, the story is clear: Jahream Bula didn't just forget how to play footy the minute he signed his new contract extension. The data doesn't lie; his raw work rate and running meters are identical to his early-season form. The slump isn't a lack of effort; it's a structural and psychological roadblock. The combination of a fragile left shoulder joint and a completely disjointed Tigers defensive line has forced him to adapt his game to survive, leading to a drop in line-break assists and hesitation in both defence and attacking the line.
Slogging through the rest of a dead-end season will only entrench those bad habits and risk a catastrophic structural blowout. By shutting him down now, blooding the next generation of pathway kids (in KoE), and fixing the defensive spacing across the park, Benji can ensure that when a fully fit Bula runs out for Round 1 next year, he’ll be ready to justify every single dollar of the new contract. We should take exactly the same approach with AD and Makasini.
What do you blokes reckon?
Drop your thoughts below.
Latu looked great when he came on...just the silky hands and the change of tempo when he engages th defenders, he is a quality half and we need to get him in either the 7 or 6 asap.I know @Jolls has long been advocating Douehi to play 13 as has quite a few Wests Tigers fans.
I could never see it working as I was not confident Douehi would embrace it and I was of the opinion that whatever advantage it could provide us in attack would be far outweighed by what we lose in defence.
There is still every chance this may be the case, but I think the continued emergence of Latu Fainu and the rapid rise of Javon Andrews has now surely forced our hand into this being the plan moving forward.
As most know I am not a big fan of Bula and not much has changed, but what I can see is a halves combination of Fainu and Andrews really creating space and utilising Bula’s speed to advantage.
For this to work we will need a 13 who is a running threat with much more speed and attacking flair than what we normally have at 13 and more importantly be able to play confidently as a 1st receiver and provide good crisp service to the halves when required.
IF and at this stage it could be a big IF, but a 13 combination of Doueihi and a switched on and committed Josh Schuster could help transform us from attacking dummies into attacking geniuses.
Bula's output, as with most fullbacks, is directly tied to the output of the forwards.2026 Deep Dive 9. Is Jahream Bula a Million Dollar Myth?
PART 1
G'day legends,
Grab a cold one and let's look at Jahream and determine what is going on. I’ve spent this morning digging into the NRL tracking data after @Merlot’s request to do a deep dive on Bula’s general play. He is not the only one that is left wondering if our boy Jahream has looked a bit off since he signed the "Million Dollar"deal.
We all know the narrative doing the rounds on social media: “He got his million-dollar payday and put his feet up.” But is that fair? Or is his busted shoulder doing a number on his head?
I’ve tried to strip out the emotion and break the analysis down into the hard, cold facts; but there has to be some subjectivity here as I don’t have any inside knowledge. To make it clear in the analysis I have identified what is fact and what is subjective.
So here’s the “definitive” deep dive into what is going on with our number one.
[FACT] The Timeline & The Hard Numbers
Let's clear up the timeline first, to avoid conflating the injury and the contract extension. Relying on memory is simply a bad place to start.
Offensive Output. Now, if you look at his raw running stats on NRL.com, you’d think nothing has changed. He was averaging about 150m–160m a game before the injury, and his season average right now sits at 161m. On paper, the he is still eating up meters.
- The Injury: Bula copped a left shoulder subluxation (partial dislocation) in April against the Raiders and missed 5 weeks.
- The Cash: He signed his shiny new 4-year extension (rumoured to be around the $1 mil a season) on 5 May; while he was doing his rehab.
- The Return: He laced his boots back up on 31 May against the Dogs.
But when you look at his Line Break Assists (LBAs), the cliff is obvious:
Pre and Post-Injury Defensive Overview (I have had to take a couple fo data sources to pull this together so in may not be 100% accurate).
- Pre-Injury (Rounds 1–7): 5 Line Break Assists (0.71 per game)
- Post-Injury (Rounds 12–20): 3 Line Break Assists (0.42 per game)
- Pre-Injury Period (Rounds 1–7): Using data pulled from the NRL Deep Dive, across his first 6 appearances of the 2026 season, Bula maintained a 95% tackle efficiency rate, successfully executing 19 out of 20 tackle attempts.
- Current Seasonal Baseline: As documented on the official Wests Tigers 2026 Profile Page, his complete defensive output over 14 appearances stands at 72 tackles made and 12 missed tackles, reducing his overall tackle efficiency to 85.7%.
- Post-Injury Segment (Rounds 12–20): Subtracting his early clean record reveals that since returning from his left shoulder subluxation, Bula has made 53 tackles but missed 11 tackles. This drops his post-injury tackle efficiency down to 82.8%.
[BEST GUESS] The Eye Test & What the Stats Actually Mean
Here is where we need to read between the lines. If his running meters are exactly the same, why does he look like he’s playing in third gear?
1. "Cheap" Metres
The 161-metre average is an optical illusion. Pre-injury Bula was stepping past defenders, busting tackles, and exploding into gaps and setting up his supports. Post-injury Bula is taking a combination of uncontested kick return meters where he appears to dawdle towards the defensive line and he’s taking conservative lines to avoid the absolute car-crash impacts that come with trying to bust a line open. So to me he looks to be protecting his left shoulder.
2. He's Passing Early
Look at the drop in Line Break Assists. To set up his support he needs to take on the line, look the defender in the eye, absorb the hit, and get the ball away at the last second or once his has created the half gap in contact. Right now, Bula is passing from the car park. He’s still making the effort but his commitment to the line is not as direct and our attack looks a little sideways and easy to slide against. Add this to AD doing similar and crabbing a lot to get around defenders instead of go through them and we have an attacking catastrophe on our hands. Latu, in the minutes he spent on the field on Saturday straightened us up well.
3. The Defensive Meat-Grinder
It’s not all on Jahream. Our spine has been musical chairs all year. Luai's knee, Api's suspension/injury AD’s injuries, combined with injuries to KPP, Sam F, Taylan and young Makasini on our edges has our defensive line leaking like a sieve.
- The Post-Injury Volatility: A plunge from 95% down to 82.8% in tackle success isolates the structural damage done to his game. Pre-injury, a missed tackle from Bula was an absolute rarity (just 1 miss in his opening block). Post-injury, he is averaging nearly 1.4 missed tackles per game.
- Technique Modification: The numbers back up the eye test; the 11 missed tackles post-injury are a direct result of shoulder protection. Fullbacks usually tackle by throwing their bodies completely across the attacker's line. Because Bula's left shoulder is a "ticking time bomb", he is sliding off tackles or hesitating, opting for low-percentage arm grabs rather than driving with his chest and shoulders.
Bula is being forced into high-velocity, desperation scrambling tackles because our front line is folding. With a dodgy shoulder, the last thing your brain wants to do is stick your arm out to trip up a 105kg lump of meat flying down the sideline. He’s hesitating defensively because his subconscious is screaming at him not to dislocate the joint again.