Tigers interested in Beau Scott

[Goose]

He would cost more than he is worth.

He does what he does well, but he is pretty limited.
Poor carrier of the ball these days and definitely aging. He would come at a high price, we would be much better off getting a player without the high profile resume, but the high performance.

 

[underdog]

having said that, i think it could be a nice boost for the forwards for the club to say "we dont need him with the guys we've got here". show some confidence in the squad they have.

so my vote is no.

Huh? Can't Beau Scott play centre? Maybe our club should say "we don't need him" so that we give a nice boost to Lawrence's confidence.

Good call.

We should rather try and boost our players confidence than acquire rep players.

:wtf

Right now we have a centre who can't really play centre. Beau Scott would be no worse.

 

[southerntiger]

He would cost more than he is worth.

He does what he does well, but he is pretty limited.
Poor carrier of the ball these days and definitely aging. He would come at a high price, we would be much better off getting a player without the high profile resume, but the high performance.

Fair assessment. If you are a believer in Moneyball, you wouldnt buy Scott.

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[cattivo]

I have a feeling his not going anywhere I think this has come about to take away all the bad press his been getting for destroying JT

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[Tigerdon]

I wouldn't have loved Scott straight after Ellis left and Dwyer was injured. Evan last year, when Fulton retired.
now that our young second rowers are at debut age, it's not so straight forward.
signing ageing forwards sometimes works out great..sometimes not.
Yes…all comes down to price.

 

[happy_tiger]

Look you need to look at Scott's versatility as well

The bloke played centre in SOO as well as second row

Having someone who can play 2 positions we are not strong in has its benefits

Gotta be at the right price though

 

[Goose]

Look you need to look at Scott's versatility as well

The bloke played centre in SOO as well as second row

Having someone who can play 2 positions we are not strong in has its benefits

Gotta be at the right price though

It wont be the right price, some one will offer him a decent chunk.

His Centre days are behind us.

This is harsh, but the selection of Scott (and blokes like him that are pure defense options) is a big reason we didnt jag a series somewhere in that 8.

 

[Masterton]

So it's a resounding NO from most of you to a current Australian and SOO player in place of a bunch of unproven kids? :unamused:
If he's the right price I don't think our coaching and recruitment team would be thinking the same way.
Apart from his play, his experience alone would be invaluable to the young guys.

I would say yes at the right place, but I think we're no chance of getting him without paying overs.

 

[happy_tiger]

Look you need to look at Scott's versatility as well

The bloke played centre in SOO as well as second row

Having someone who can play 2 positions we are not strong in has its benefits

Gotta be at the right price though

It wont be the right price, some one will offer him a decent chunk.

His Centre days are behind us.

This is harsh, but the selection of Scott (and blokes like him that are pure defense options) is a big reason we didnt jag a series somewhere in that 8.

Yes because Keith Lulia is such a far better option as our back up centre

And if it isn't at the right price we walk away , simple as that

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

He would cost more than he is worth.

He does what he does well, but he is pretty limited.
Poor carrier of the ball these days and definitely aging. He would come at a high price, we would be much better off getting a player without the high profile resume, but the high performance.

Fair assessment. If you are a believer in Moneyball, you wouldnt buy Scott.

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Yeah i bought into the Penrith moneyball thing.

Then they signed Merrin.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Look you need to look at Scott's versatility as well

The bloke played centre in SOO as well as second row

Having someone who can play 2 positions we are not strong in has its benefits

Gotta be at the right price though

It wont be the right price, some one will offer him a decent chunk.

His Centre days are behind us.

This is harsh, but the selection of Scott (and blokes like him that are pure defense options) is a big reason we didnt jag a series somewhere in that 8.

Yes because Keith Lulia is such a far better option as our back up centre

And if it isn't at the right price we walk away , simple as that

As a fellow Queenslander you know full well we were never more comfortable and in control of the game when Beau Scott had the ball as a centre. Inglis was laughing at him.

 

[happy_tiger]

He would cost more than he is worth.

He does what he does well, but he is pretty limited.
Poor carrier of the ball these days and definitely aging. He would come at a high price, we would be much better off getting a player without the high profile resume, but the high performance.

Fair assessment. If you are a believer in Moneyball, you wouldnt buy Scott.

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Yeah i bought into the Penrith moneyball thing.

Then they signed Merrin.

Moneyball ??

Please explain

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

He would cost more than he is worth.

He does what he does well, but he is pretty limited.
Poor carrier of the ball these days and definitely aging. He would come at a high price, we would be much better off getting a player without the high profile resume, but the high performance.

Fair assessment. If you are a believer in Moneyball, you wouldnt buy Scott.

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Yeah i bought into the Penrith moneyball thing.

Then they signed Merrin.

Moneyball ??

Please explain

The spending of your salary cap in a way that you never really pay overs for players.

"MONEYBALL -

Moneyball is a term describing baseball operations in which a team endeavors to analyze the market for baseball players and buy what is undervalued and sell what is overvalued."

Basically fill your squad with either talented but unproven young players or value for money signing that have a real point to prove.

Not Merrin!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We should be modeling ourselves on how the Panthers mix recruitment with juniors.

 

[happy_tiger]

But the TPA's throws that system out the window

Trying to produce as much home grown talent is far more important and some judicious buys from outside the square is important

You may have to pay overs on occasions to get that one important square peg for the square hole

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

But the TPA's throws that system out the window

Trying to produce as much home grown talent is far more important and some judicious buys from outside the square is important

You may have to pay overs on occasions to get that one important square peg for the square hole

I dont disagree with that but the salary cap is still a leveler. Its not so much about just young and cheap players. Penrith rode their luck on the back of discarded unwanted great value for money guys like Soward and Wallace who had massive points to prove.

Guss went on and on and on about it. Then they signed Merrin on big money and made hypocrites of everything they said they were trying to do.

In the end it was all just publicity fluff

Scott at less than 500k would be great value, over that we are nudging in his favour.

 

[Goose]

We should be modeling ourselves on how the Panthers mix recruitment with juniors.

They did make some astute buys. The coach being the best of them.

It gets little press, but just before Elliot arrived until his second last year, Penrith drastically reduced their junior budget, that steady flow of kids stopped.

They put the money back in about 6 months before Gould came back, and not surprisingly, the steady flow of juniors are back and doing very well again.

There is some wonderful players in that Penrith system, some we have seen, some not yet. Waqa Blake and the Jennings boys will play some NRL this year, as late as the middle of last year internally they were not sure who was the better fullback, Moylan or Moss. Plus a few more that are a little further away, a prop names Oliver Clarke is a few years away but looks a real good player. It is a wonderful nursery that whenever they harness, success follows.

 

[TurnStyle]

But the TPA's throws that system out the window

Trying to produce as much home grown talent is far more important and some judicious buys from outside the square is important

You may have to pay overs on occasions to get that one important square peg for the square hole

i could be wrong, but with a 'Moneyball' methodology TPAs dont throw the system out the window at all; it is an intrinsic element of the overall assessed "value" of a player, what it will take to get him and what you are willing to pay for him (with an emphasis on value for money, if you get me).

also, the idea behind it is that you scour the available talent so that you do get that square peg for that square hole, but do so by snaring a player you see something in that generally others dont; ie; "undervalued", but with regard to your specific needs quite valuable indeed.

so these trades are the judicious ones you mention.

 

[happy_tiger]

But the TPA's throws that system out the window

Trying to produce as much home grown talent is far more important and some judicious buys from outside the square is important

You may have to pay overs on occasions to get that one important square peg for the square hole

i could be wrong, but with a 'Moneyball' methodology TPAs dont throw the system out the window at all; it is an intrinsic element of the overall assessed "value" of a player, what it will take to get him and what you are willing to pay for him (with an emphasis on value for money, if you get me).

also, the idea behind it is that you scour the available talent so that you do get that square peg for that square hole, but do so by snaring a player you see something in that generally others dont; ie; "undervalued", but with regard to your specific needs quite valuable indeed.

so these trades are the judicious ones you mention.

My point is if you can find the right player and someone to cough up the money in the form of TPA they are worth far more than another player of the same value that won't attract a TPA

People seem to get the net worth of a player and the salary cap value worth a player mixed up

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

But the TPA's throws that system out the window

Trying to produce as much home grown talent is far more important and some judicious buys from outside the square is important

You may have to pay overs on occasions to get that one important square peg for the square hole

i could be wrong, but with a 'Moneyball' methodology TPAs dont throw the system out the window at all; it is an intrinsic element of the overall assessed "value" of a player, what it will take to get him and what you are willing to pay for him (with an emphasis on value for money, if you get me).

also, the idea behind it is that you scour the available talent so that you do get that square peg for that square hole, but do so by snaring a player you see something in that generally others dont; ie; "undervalued", but with regard to your specific needs quite valuable indeed.

so these trades are the judicious ones you mention.

My point is if you can find the right player and someone to cough up the money in the form of TPA they are worth far more than another player of the same value that won't attract a TPA

People seem to get the net worth of a player and the salary cap value worth a player mixed up

But that players performance is the only thing that is judged at the end of the day, Paying him more wont make him play better.

Recruiting the right type of guy who is super keen to impress is a part of it.

Someone who has been to the top and is on the way down will always be a risky over priced purchase.