Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou

@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

You can’t say that Paws it’s Doueihis team. Brooks has taken a back seat, his a passenger he doesn’t organise, Doueihi does that. He doesn’t shift the ball, MBye does that. He makes tackles. That how everyone sees him.
They miss all the interchanging of passing and play 2 off the ruck that Brooks creates because we apparently only score tries off Doueihi.
I think a magician gets the ball to Doueihi out wide in space....
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.

He'd get a start at the Cowboys, Broncos, Canterbury, Dragons, Raiders if Williams goes and the new Qld franchise. Mitch Moses may even look over his shoulder. Good player.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354980) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.

He'd get a start at the Cowboys, Broncos, Canterbury, Dragons, Raiders if Williams goes and the new Qld franchise. Mitch Moses may even look over his shoulder. Good player.

I disagree.

Cows with Townsend, Drinkwater and Dearden. Dragons still have Norman, Hunt and a few top young halves. Broncos will go for someone with a more proven track record of making the finals. Canberra are possibles if Williams goes. Dogs will probably be happy with Burton and flanno, who is pretty similar up Brooks at less than half the price. The last two would be his only really options and neither would pay more than 500k for him
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355149) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354980) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.

He'd get a start at the Cowboys, Broncos, Canterbury, Dragons, Raiders if Williams goes and the new Qld franchise. Mitch Moses may even look over his shoulder. Good player.

I disagree.

Cows with Townsend, Drinkwater and Dearden. Dragons still have Norman, Hunt and a few top young halves. Broncos will go for someone with a more proven track record of making the finals. Canberra are possibles if Williams goes. Dogs will probably be happy with Burton and flanno, who is pretty similar up Brooks at less than half the price. The last two would be his only really options and neither would pay more than 500k for him

I don't think the market would be crazy for him but there'd be plenty of coaches who would think they could get more out of him with their coaching and by putting him around better players. Popular sentiment around the league seems to be that we're not using him correctly.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355349) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.
- also he’s not close to being one of highest paid players in the Comp

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355349) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.

I don't have time to go into detail, but you're naive and wrong. Cherry picking stats and using his touching the ball as evidence is laughable. And basing a performance on 5% of his output is ridiculous.

I think if he could find another team easily he'd already be somewhere else.

And at 850k a year, yes he's one of the highest paid players in the comp.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355438) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355349) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.

I don't have time to go into detail, but you're naive and wrong. ***Cherry picking stats and using his touching the ball as evidence is laughable***. And basing a performance on 5% of his output is ridiculous.

The entire season last year Brooks was bagged for his Try Assist stats. Try assists are now "cherry picking"?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355455) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355438) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1355349) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354951) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354947) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354942) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354824) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers need to be Doueihi's team: Tamou](/post/1354531) said:
Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.

I don't have time to go into detail, but you're naive and wrong. ***Cherry picking stats and using his touching the ball as evidence is laughable***. And basing a performance on 5% of his output is ridiculous.


The entire season last year Brooks was bagged for his Try Assist stats. Try assists are now "cherry picking"?

No, they're just one of many tasks he has. Try assists are not Luke's prime objective. Leading the team around the field is. How do people not understand this?
 
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Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.



This is the standard uneducated comments made from brooks haters.

- he would find another team easy! Especially now with player movement and needing halfbacks
- has been consistently one of our best players over the years (last year was a bad year)
- Agee with the confidence, that just comes with being bashed by his own fans even when he was leading try assists and tackle percentage for a half. Also the fact we are getting smashed weekly and for some reason only he is getting abused about it. The guy is playing in 4 game spine with bunch of rookies, instead of thinking he’s at fault, maybe realise the amount of times other players are out of position, not backing up or running angles.
- you have your eyes painted on if you don’t think he was one of our best players last week. He had try assists and forced drop outs. He also created Cinis first try which was ruled a knock on. Also put garner and Talau through but a great tackle stopped both.
-“mostly of the back of Laurie and Adam?” Your kidding right? Those try’s in the corner where because brooks engaged the line and threw the ball early to both of them! He also put Adam through a few holes. The fact you are saying he did nothing shows you have no knowledge of the game.
- those 2 kicks where pin point kicks that where about a metre out from the try line and gave our players a chance to contest? Nothing lucky about it. 3 sceneries with those kicks. try. Drop out. 1st tackle 2ms out. (All great options)
- brooks is 2nd for try assists in the COMP and has the highest tackle percentage for a half in a team that’s coming 13th and gets 30 put on them almost weekly.

- he does not warrant the hate he cops! Especially from people like yourself who don’t fully understand the game.

I don't have time to go into detail, but you're naive and wrong. ***Cherry picking stats and using his touching the ball as evidence is laughable***. And basing a performance on 5% of his output is ridiculous.


The entire season last year Brooks was bagged for his Try Assist stats. Try assists are now "cherry picking"?

No, they're just one of many tasks he has. Try assists are not Luke's prime objective. Leading the team around the field is. How do people not understand this?


I have no problem with that...my experience is that just as you are accusing Tigerblood of cherry picking stats, Brooks bashers will grasp at whatever stats they can grab to back their narrative.
 
'I gave him permission to get into me’: How Farah fired up Doueihi
Christian Nicolussi
By Christian Nicolussi
May 7, 2021 — 3.56pm

Robbie Farah has made an immediate impact in his on-field return to the Wests Tigers, where his presence as a blue-shirt trainer has forced Adam Doueihi to “stop being lazy” and take his game to another level.

Doueihi was excellent for the Tigers in their shock win over St George Illawarra last week, and the five-eighth thanked Farah for making sure he did not cut any corners.


The Tigers have a second chance to honour the late Tommy Raudonikis properly when they don the Wests Magpies strip on Saturday evening at Campbelltown against the Gold Coast Titans.

Their first attempt at celebrating Raudonikis last month ended in disaster at Leichhardt Oval.

If the Tigers are any hope of winning,Doueihi and fullback Daine Laurie, who spent most of the week on the NSW north coast for a family funeral and missed the captain’s run, will need to fire.

Doueihi said the influence of Farah on the field could not be understated, and the club legend would be out there again making sure there was no mistaking coach Michael Maguire’s instructions.

“Robbie has been with us all year, mainly working with the hookers, but when he was our ‘blue shirt’ last Sunday, he was really good for me,” Doueihi told the Herald.

“I know for me personally I can become lazy in games, but he made sure I was pushing up with the play and not trying to anticipate when the ball comes my way.

“He kept giving me messages that made me wake up. Robbie has always been a dominant figure and someone I’ve looked up to. He tipped me up on a few things after the game, just a few lazy traits I’ve got.


“I actually gave him permission to get into me on the field.″⁣

Doueihi, Laurie and Luciano Leilua have been the three stand-outs for the Tigers, who are chasing their third win of the season.

Doueihi loves watching Laurie at the back and said the little livewire’s toughness had to be admired.

“He’s not scared to cart the ball up from the back, he’s not sacred of who is in front of him,” Doueihi said.

“And when he’s close to the line, he’s so hard with his footwork. He’s been a big boost for us.”

Doueihi has become known for his monster “floaters”, which are sure to cause Titans fullback AJ Brimson all sorts of headaches in Sydney’s south west.

The 22-year-old said he struck the floater kick a little differently to most other players and would only attempt them in games if he hit them well in the warm-up.

“I put the ball flat on the side; most players hold the ball on an angle,” Doueihi said.

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“I’ll then aim for the belly of the ball. They can be more inconsistent if you don’t hit them right. But, if I’m hitting them well before the game, I’ll try to pull them out.”

Tigers winger Zac Cini caused a stir on debut last Sunday, and the images of his friends celebrating in one corner of WIN Stadium will go down as one of the NRL season’s highlights. The Penrith junior with the unmistakable strawberry-blond mullet has kept his spot as centre James Roberts spends up to a month overcoming a chest injury.


Maguire said he had seen an attitude shift amongst the players in recent weeks and that wearing the Wests Magpies strip was a good chance to respond to the boos hurled their way after their first tribute to Raudonikis.

“That’s definitely in our hands,” he said of the shot at redemption. “It’s a great opportunity to show what we are capable of and I will let the boys doing the talking on that one.”

“There’s always a difference when you’re on the right side of the scoreboard. I saw the attitude in a really good place throughout the game [against the Dragons]. They looked after each other ... that was the most pleasing point from my end.”

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-gave-him-permission-to-get-into-me-how-farah-fired-up-doueihi-20210507-p57pt2.html
 
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Writing on the wall for Brooks. The current captain saying he needs to take a back seat as he can't do his job well enough for the team.

It's a team game and every player plays a role which best meets the team's needs. As we've seen with Brooks over the years he is a loyal player for WTs. This contrasts to Tedesco who couldn't wait to get out of the joint.

Loyalty is useless if the quality isn't there.

Look at Nof. If he wasn't a local boy there's slim chance he'd be with us still and if he was he'd be on a lot less coin.

Same with Brooks, as a local junior we overpaid him after his first strong season. Since then his kicking, running and passing games have disintegrated and he's now a shadow of his former self. Realistically it's his defence keeping him in first grade.

Brooks would be in huge demand if he was on the market. He created how many try scoring opps against the Dragons?

Huge demand? Not sure about that. Maybe if we were chipping in 500k. He's been a consistent failure for many years, is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's a headless chook out there, he's lost all confidence and looks like he doesn't have a clue what he's doing most of the time.

Opportunities? Maybe one at most? We only created 3-4 chances all game. Mostly off the back of Doueihi and Laurie. Brooks did nothing.

He put in two kicks that the Dragons fumbled, not sure that counts as him contributing. The Magpies probably would have beaten the Dragons by a bigger scoreline that WT did on the weekend.

He'd get a start at the Cowboys, Broncos, Canterbury, Dragons, Raiders if Williams goes and the new Qld franchise. Mitch Moses may even look over his shoulder. Good player.

I disagree.

Cows with Townsend, Drinkwater and Dearden. Dragons still have Norman, Hunt and a few top young halves. Broncos will go for someone with a more proven track record of making the finals. Canberra are possibles if Williams goes. Dogs will probably be happy with Burton and flanno, who is pretty similar up Brooks at less than half the price. The last two would be his only really options and neither would pay more than 500k for him

Knights as well. He'd be showered with offers and $.
 
Honesty the best policy for a Tiger turnaround: Doueihi
Author - Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp - Fri 7 May 2021, 06:01 PM

Wests Tigers players identified defence and resilience as two areas which needed to improve at an honesty session that they hope can be the catalyst for claiming a place in the top eight with a win over Gold Coast on Saturday.

The Tigers were under siege before last Sunday’s 16-8 defeat of St George Illawarra, with officials forced to guarantee the future of coach Michael Maguire after just one win in the opening seven rounds.

Star five-eighth Adam Doueihi revealed that the players responded by coming together to talk about what had been going wrong and how they planned to turn their season around.

“Honesty builds clubs and we had some honest conversations, and picked out a few things we think we can improve,” Doueihi said. “Resilience was a big piece of that and obviously defence. They are the two things we are working on.

“You need to do stuff like that and those honest conversations are good to have. I know I took a lot out of it and the other boys did. We rested after that and came into training the next day and we were going pretty good.”

The match against the Dragons was the first this season in which the Tigers have held an opposition team to single figures and they did not concede a point in the second half.

The previous weekend they had conceded 40 points against Manly, as they did in round two against Sydney Roosters, while Parramatta, Canberra and North Queensland had all put 30 or more points on the Tigers.

“We are building on our defence and we know we have leaked a fair amount of points in the first two months of footy so we are working on that,” Doueihi said.

“Defence is our main focus for the next few weeks and everyone has been turning up at training ready to rip in and work hard.”

The Lebanon international, who admitted he was still developing combinations with halfback Luke Brooks, new fullback Daine Laurie and rookie hooker Jake Simpkin after making the switch to five-eighth this season, said the speculation about Maguire had been disappointing.

“To see the stuff said about Madge hurt me personally and I know it hurt the boys, so we wanted to play for him, play for our club and play for our fans,” he said.

“You are only as good as your last performance so if we don’t back it up this week it means nothing.”

The Titans are currently in eighth position but if the Tigers win at Campbelltown they will join them on six points and could find themselves in the top eight for the first time this season.

“We obviously have a young spine and new combos and we haven’t played much footy together but I think we are building nicely, we are putting in the effort at training and working hard on our game and where we can improve,” Doueihi said.

“I am building well with Brooksy, we are starting to find out each other’s games and know where we want to be.

“It’s knowing when to kick, when to run and who to hit, and when to link up with Brooksy or just go myself. I guess the more games I can get under my belt [at five-eighth] the better it is going to be but I feel like it is coming along nicely.”
 
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Perhaps Douehi could one day pass to his centre

You know statistically Brooks and Doueihi run about the same amount per game... I'd argue Doueihi is more effective with his running game as well averaging more metres a game. He's also 7th in the league for linebreak assists.
 
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Was at the game and watched AD closely (have always been interested in his development).

What stood out to me most to the point where it was visibly obvious - towards the end of the game he was sucking in the big ones, looked genuinely exhausted - but the very next play would back it up with a big break, good line speed or barking orders to take control of the set.

When we win he is always one of the most animated and when we lose he is always distressed. That is future captains material - leaving it all on the field and playing with passion for the jersey. It contagious and I know if I was a player that's who I would go to war with.

I wasn’t at the game but I watched it on Fox
And I agree, he was spent but he never stopped.

That’s what it means, when Madge asks players to play for each other.

AD led by example
I loved what he did at Fullback, when he filled in at centre against Manly.
Young but powerful and determined.

Can not teach passion for the jersey and Adam has it.

Honestly the side look like they are responding as best they can. They care about each other and the coach. The more Cini's we can bring in with good attitudes and to give the other boys someone to rally around the better. The spirit is there, they just need to build systems and execute.

Still entirely unsold on Maguire as a tactician though.

One thing McGuire is not is a tactitian.
Trainer, sure.
Coach, yes. Mentor, yes.

He is 100% not a tactitian. Sheens was the best tactitian coach we had, and that had really mixed results. Long term it did leave us underdeveloped.
 
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Was at the game and watched AD closely (have always been interested in his development).

What stood out to me most to the point where it was visibly obvious - towards the end of the game he was sucking in the big ones, looked genuinely exhausted - but the very next play would back it up with a big break, good line speed or barking orders to take control of the set.

When we win he is always one of the most animated and when we lose he is always distressed. That is future captains material - leaving it all on the field and playing with passion for the jersey. It contagious and I know if I was a player that's who I would go to war with.

I wasn’t at the game but I watched it on Fox
And I agree, he was spent but he never stopped.

That’s what it means, when Madge asks players to play for each other.

AD led by example
I loved what he did at Fullback, when he filled in at centre against Manly.
Young but powerful and determined.

Can not teach passion for the jersey and Adam has it.

Honestly the side look like they are responding as best they can. They care about each other and the coach. The more Cini's we can bring in with good attitudes and to give the other boys someone to rally around the better. The spirit is there, they just need to build systems and execute.

Still entirely unsold on Maguire as a tactician though.

One thing McGuire is not is a tactitian.
Trainer, sure.
Coach, yes. Mentor, yes.

He is 100% not a tactitian. Sheens was the best tactitian coach we had, and that had really mixed results. Long term it did leave us underdeveloped.

You missed the most important before tactician and that is person management skills. Sheens A plus, Maguire No
 
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