Tigers Talking To Young Union Star Deegan

[supercoach]

Someone has identified this kid as having some talent, now over the past few years our talent spotting of young kids has been first rate, although in saying that we have been lucky having Kreeba High and Ryde Holly Cross to draw talent from.

Anyway lets see what happens and if we do sign him up, lets treat him like any other u20 signing, as his chances of making it to NRL level are not great.Lets face it any U20 signing is a big gamble

 

[LaT]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

This really seems to be a point of major contention for you Happy. They are not talking about this guy as a guaranteed future star. Just as we weren't talking about Austin as a guaranteed future star, there can be a middle ground when we talk about good young kids with potential.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of Deegan before, but some people who may have been following him in lower Union grades might see something they like.

Do you think the ARU will let him go for peanuts ??

That's my point , one position that we are really struggling in is the 10 jersey in rugby union

They can't afford to have anyone with talent leaving

That's my opinion why we won't get him

We would be paying overs for a 17 year old who doesn't play the game

Wouldn't we be far better off finding a 17 year old who has played the game and spend the time and effort developing his talents

What makes you think he is that high up on the ARUs priority list as a schoolboy? Because the Wallabies are struggling for a 10 you think they would have signed or offered Deegan a big dollar contract?

Some absolute geniuses etc.

 

[Goose]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

Rugby dont pay much, academy budgets are significantly less than an NRL club can offer a talented junior. A problem they face all the time.

An NYC contract to a Union Aus schoolboy player is relatively risk free.

I cant think of too many Aus schoolboy union backs over the last 10 years wouldn't make a NYC team.

At that level both are amatuer and part time, most players that swap at that side do fairly well.

Whether he makes the next step is completely another question.

Just for fun, running through a few more rugby players that swapped and went fairly well, Craig Innes, Wally Lewis, Ben Kennedy., Scott Gourlay, Ryan Cross, Matt Duffie, Kevin Proctor, Tohu Harris, Konrad Hurrell, Jarrod Saffy, Taniela Tuiaki, Andrew Walker, Simon Mannering

FYI in the ;last decade I can't think of any players tat switched from the Aus schoolboys union sie th dint make at least an NYC side. I can think of a few that have played NRL. Cronk, Joe Tamane, Taesa Levea, Ryan McGolderick and Luani have all played a bit of NRL. Rocky Elsom was a star at jersey flegg, but only played the 1 year and won the comp before heading back to NRL. If anyone can think of a Aus schoolboy that didnt make it to at least NYC, I stand corrected, but think they have all done at least moderately well.

 

[Newtown]

Tim Brasher played his junior football with Burwood United JRLFC prior to signing with Balmain at the age of 17\. I can remember that in his last year at the club (prior to signing with Balmain) his coach was concerned because Tim would every weekend of his own accord play rugby league on Sundays after playing rugby on Saturdays.

 

[The_Great_Bagsby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVoG7p-cTZs

this is the most recent video of Deegan playing for the Aus Schools team just last week

hopefully he signs!

 

[happy_tiger]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

This really seems to be a point of major contention for you Happy. They are not talking about this guy as a guaranteed future star. Just as we weren't talking about Austin as a guaranteed future star, there can be a middle ground when we talk about good young kids with potential.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of Deegan before, but some people who may have been following him in lower Union grades might see something they like.

Do you think the ARU will let him go for peanuts ??

That's my point , one position that we are really struggling in is the 10 jersey in rugby union

They can't afford to have anyone with talent leaving

That's my opinion why we won't get him

We would be paying overs for a 17 year old who doesn't play the game

Wouldn't we be far better off finding a 17 year old who has played the game and spend the time and effort developing his talents

What makes you think he is that high up on the ARUs priority list as a schoolboy? Because the Wallabies are struggling for a 10 you think they would have signed or offered Deegan a big dollar contract?

Some absolute geniuses etc.

Did I say they were going to offer him a big contract

You need to realise that our NYC cap is limited brainiac and to waste it on a risk is a risk

And to the loud mouths who are sprouting all these names who have switched to league ,take out the ones who have played league previously

Take it from someone who played both schoolboy league at the highest level ,switched to schoolboy union at the highest level for 3 years and then back to league at the highest schoolboy level that it isn't as easy as it seems and I played mainly fullback , let alone playing five eight
I'm not saying dont do it ,just that its a huge risk

If the view isn't to seeing him playing NRL in the future for the Tigers it is a waste in my opinion

You don't sign blokes just to play NYC for Christ sakes

 

[LaT]

NYC is cap limited? Since when???!!!???!!!???##$ Someone call Buzz and let him know!

But seriously, most people seem to be able to discuss these topics in a reasonable manner, can't say the same about you Happy. Fairly liberal use of personal attacks and jibes just aren't needed.

 

[Newtown]

The Roosters have only a very small junior league from which to choose NYC players from. Yet they won the premiership with a team which included a fair number of former NYC players. Would not they have followed a similar plan in signing NYC players who were not in their junior league, rugby, or rugby league?

 

[innsaneink]

Tim Brasher played his junior football with Burwood United JRLFC prior to signing with Balmain at the age of 17\. I can remember that in his last year at the club (prior to signing with Balmain) his coach was concerned because Tim would every weekend of his own accord play rugby league on Sundays after playing rugby on Saturdays.

Its very common kids playing both codes.

This thread sums up off season…arguing over a kid :deadhorse:

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Australian schoolboys five eight and star player including goal kicker. If we have signed this kid then we have made a very good move

The Australian schoolboys outstanding players are Kellaway, Moeroa and Milne, the last two contracted to the Eels and Roosters respectively. Kellaway, out of those three is the most prodigious talent. Deegan is good, but not in the category of those three at the moment. Joeys have not had a great year, the lowlight being the concession of 58 points at home to Newington. That sort of beating at Hunters Hill is unheard of

We have a great young kid called Joel Luani, former New boy and Australian schoolboy

 

[Goose]

Joey Lussick is signed with Parramatta also.
The Newington back rower whose name I can't remember is also signed for Parramatta, id have picked him in the league Aus Schools.
A number of rugby boys will be in league next year.

 

[pHyR3]

Australian schoolboys five eight and star player including goal kicker. If we have signed this kid then we have made a very good move

The Australian schoolboys outstanding players are Kellaway, Moeroa and Milne, the last two contracted to the Eels and Roosters respectively. Kellaway, out of those three is the most prodigious talent. Deegan is good, but not in the category of those three at the moment. Joeys have not had a great year, the lowlight being the concession of 58 points at home to Newington. That sort of beating at Hunters Hill is unheard of

We have a great young kid called Joel Luani, former New boy and Australian schoolboy

Agree, Deegan's pretty good some of those aussie schoolboys…. wow.

We should still try to see if he has potential and look at signing him and by we i mean tiger's junior recruitment.

Most union kids these days play union because of their dad or the school they go to but look up to the GIs and JTs in the comp. It's a dying sport to be honest.

 

[happy_tiger]

Lets just concentrate of the prodigious junior talent we have at our disposal

LaT your probably right , but I just get sick of people thinking it is a piece of piss switching codes

And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him

Maybe if he was the best number 10 that has come out of this seasons batch , but he doesn't even appear to be at that level

 

[Knuckles]

Lets just concentrate of the prodigious junior talent we have at our disposal

LaT your probably right , but I just get sick of people thinking it is a piece of piss switching codes

And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him

Maybe if he was the best number 10 that has come out of this seasons batch , but he doesn't even appear to be at that level

I'm with you HT …. Why promote these sort of players ahead of our own .... Sends the wrong signal.

 

[The_Great_Bagsby]

Lets just concentrate of the prodigious junior talent we have at our disposal

LaT your probably right , but I just get sick of people thinking it is a piece of piss switching codes

And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him

Maybe if he was the best number 10 that has come out of this seasons batch , but he doesn't even appear to be at that level

can you not read? did you not watch the video of him playing for the Australian Schoolboys team, as the starting number 10? he is quite evidently the best number 10 of this seasons batch, and I agree we have much prodigious talent at our disposal, but not all of it will be playing in the under 20s next season! and is there anything wrong with acquiring more talent?

 

[Goose]

Lets just concentrate of the prodigious junior talent we have at our disposal

LaT your probably right , but I just get sick of people thinking it is a piece of piss switching codes

And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him

Maybe if he was the best number 10 that has come out of this seasons batch , but he doesn't even appear to be at that level

he is the best 10 in the selectors minds. .. I didn't see much this year so don't know if he was the best, what I did see I believe he is NYC standard. I don't think he is better than that, he is certainly no Cooper Cronk.
In general I reckon buying union Aus School boys is a great tactic, they will be less in demand than the league equivalent and have good upside.

 

[pHyR3]

"And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him"

So far from the truth happy, as others have said he played for the AUS u18 team at 10\. He's a great talent, but he doesn't seem to have the markings of a cronk, joey johns or kurtley beale. I'm all for purchasing him at a reasonable price and seeing how he goes. What's the worst that could happen? if someone is better than him and we are about to purchase them we will do so, most NYC players would be worse than him in any case.

Players don't always have to dominate junior levels to dominate senior levels, and i'm willing to take a chance on him. And by 'take a chance' i mean pay him 10, 20 k on a 1 or 2 year contract in Holden Cup….. not a big risk at all.

 

[T-REXX]

"And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him"

So far from the truth happy, as others have said he played for the AUS u18 team at 10\. He's a great talent, but he doesn't seem to have the markings of a cronk, joey johns or kurtley beale. I'm all for purchasing him at a reasonable price and seeing how he goes. What's the worst that could happen? if someone is better than him and we are about to purchase them we will do so, most NYC players would be worse than him in any case.

Players don't always have to dominate junior levels to dominate senior levels, and i'm willing to take a chance on him. And by 'take a chance' i mean pay him 10, 20 k on a 1 or 2 year contract in Holden Cup….. not a big risk at all.

Nick far jones player 3rd grade for gps. Never cracked 1s

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[Anthism]

"And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him"

So far from the truth happy, as others have said he played for the AUS u18 team at 10\. He's a great talent, but he doesn't seem to have the markings of a cronk, joey johns or kurtley beale. I'm all for purchasing him at a reasonable price and seeing how he goes. What's the worst that could happen? if someone is better than him and we are about to purchase them we will do so, most NYC players would be worse than him in any case.

Players don't always have to dominate junior levels to dominate senior levels, and i'm willing to take a chance on him. And by 'take a chance' i mean pay him 10, 20 k on a 1 or 2 year contract in Holden Cup….. not a big risk at all.

Nick far jones player 3rd grade for gps. Never cracked 1s

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He didn't even play 1st Grade for his school, same with Kearns.

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[happy_tiger]

"And if the bloke isn't even cracking it at GPS rugby level why are we even worrying about him"

So far from the truth happy, as others have said he played for the AUS u18 team at 10\. He's a great talent, but he doesn't seem to have the markings of a cronk, joey johns or kurtley beale. I'm all for purchasing him at a reasonable price and seeing how he goes. What's the worst that could happen? if someone is better than him and we are about to purchase them we will do so, most NYC players would be worse than him in any case.

Players don't always have to dominate junior levels to dominate senior levels, and i'm willing to take a chance on him. And by 'take a chance' i mean pay him 10, 20 k on a 1 or 2 year contract in Holden Cup….. not a big risk at all.

Kurtley Beale is seriously junk I would prefer Cooper over Beale and I reckon Cooper is garbage

Genia is the only quality half we have