Tigers Talking To Young Union Star Deegan

[Tigersmurf]

All of them I would have thought Happy. They are good players coming at a reasonable price.

 

[Kul]

No thanks, we don't want Joeys boys!

All they can do is wear Pink
soft soft soft!

 

[851]

His contract I assume would be modest,so it is not a big risk.

 

[LaT]

Yeah, it might not work.
So we'd better not try.

And that's one of the clubs biggest problems , we seem to take lots of chances with signings that probably are doomed from the start or the likelihood of success are limited

This is the difference between the top clubs and ourselves

Managing your cap is all about astute purchases

Which of our six signings are astute purchases ??

You recruit at all levels of the game, which is what we have done. We knew we were hamstrung for 2014 due to years of Humpty economics, but we have shored up some solid prospects and protected our future stocks.

People get way to caught up in what other teams are doing, they see some big names moving and suddenly we are small fry because we haven't done the same…..thats a fairly narrow view of the situation IMO.

 

[supercoach]

Iam sure we are talking about a u20's contract so it is no big risk. Also because the kid played schoolboy Rugby dosnt mean he has not got a league back ground also. Anyway Iam happy to recruit from anywhere,if they are young and tick all the boxes. Lets face it most of the Kreeba Park boys come from a rugby back ground in NZ before going to QLd. Also Farah's under study this year at the back end of the season played rugby at Newington Colledge.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Not a huge risk especially at that age, I wouldn't expect you could put him in the union bracket when so young with so much development ahead of him lots of kids play either union or league depending on where they are schooled but may still have a preference toward league.
Who knows could be the next big thing if not can go back to union in a few years.

 

[bp_tiger]

sign him up and get him to bring some large young frowards with him, god nows we need some size in this club.

 

[pHyR3]

Lots of players play union as kids. Almost every NZ player would have played union as a child, Benji played some rep union until his was 15 or 16\. Joel Luani came from Newington, and I saw an article saying a lot of, or all of the Scot's College's Australian Union Representatives were signed to Holden Cup teams, not union. There's a lot of talent there, we just need to find it and Deegan is a good start and hardly a risk….

 

[Newtown]

The following comment was posted in the Green and Gold site in June this year. Could it be a case of Buyer Beware? But then again if the deal favours Wests Tigers what is the risk?

Donj said:

Deegan mystifies me. he isn't even the best 10 at joeys. he is slow, ponderous, telegraphs his passes. someone must see something but i never have.
yeh I know, I have added Deegan to my 1sts GPS pick, but after hearing all the stir about him, i start to re-consider whether Clancy or even Ellis Abrahams could be put in the mix.

GPSrow, Jun 4, 2013

 

[pHyR3]

There's a lotta videos on youtube of the games he's played in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs86_ZBXv4

music's a bit annoying, he's the blonde kid with no headgear i think.

 

[Newtown]

Five eight is a very important position in rugby and this kid from St. Joseph's College looks to been well coached. By the way I attended St. Joseph's but it wasn't at Hunter's Hill but at Newtown. Iit was where Johnny Raper learnt to play rugby league.

 

[The_Great_Bagsby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VftqyoPGeHI

1:10

 

[The_Great_Bagsby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooRJKQpDU-8

the blonde number 10 in this video

 

[magpiecol]

People are really jumping the gun , we are in talks with a bloke who plays a completely different code who more likely than not won't even get a run in NYC and people are ready having him signed and playing NYC

Pretty big risk , especially if it means guys who are established league players moving on

Not many Union converts crack it in the NRL , the Tigers have had their fair share of failures in this area

Michael O'conner
Ray Price( I think came from union)
And of course Brian Smith

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And now post the the failures , the list will be as long as your arm

Here is a couple more.

John Brass, Russel Fairfax, Ken Thornett, Arthur Summons, Kevin Ryan, Jim Lyle.

There are some more but my memory is not what it used to be.

Failures, sure there will be some but there are a lot of failures from kids who grew up playing League. Give the kid a break.

 

[pHyR3]

Ricky stuart was also one i think

 

[happy_tiger]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

 

[balmain boy]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

How are union letting him go if they don't have him? He's a schoolboy, not contracted to anyone.

Manly signed JWH from rugby when he had achieved more than this kid has. And he was on peanuts.

As are practically all nyc players - unless they happen to play for the Roosters or Storm :wink:

 

[LaT]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

This really seems to be a point of major contention for you Happy. They are not talking about this guy as a guaranteed future star. Just as we weren't talking about Austin as a guaranteed future star, there can be a middle ground when we talk about good young kids with potential.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of Deegan before, but some people who may have been following him in lower Union grades might see something they like.

 

[happy_tiger]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

This really seems to be a point of major contention for you Happy. They are not talking about this guy as a guaranteed future star. Just as we weren't talking about Austin as a guaranteed future star, there can be a middle ground when we talk about good young kids with potential.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of Deegan before, but some people who may have been following him in lower Union grades might see something they like.

Do you think the ARU will let him go for peanuts ??

That's my point , one position that we are really struggling in is the 10 jersey in rugby union

They can't afford to have anyone with talent leaving

That's my opinion why we won't get him

We would be paying overs for a 17 year old who doesn't play the game

Wouldn't we be far better off finding a 17 year old who has played the game and spend the time and effort developing his talents

 

[balmain boy]

And if he is as good as everyone says do you think union will let him go cheaply

So then we spend the majority of our NYC cap space on a guy unproven in League

Some absolute geniuses on this Forum ,I'll tell you

This really seems to be a point of major contention for you Happy. They are not talking about this guy as a guaranteed future star. Just as we weren't talking about Austin as a guaranteed future star, there can be a middle ground when we talk about good young kids with potential.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of Deegan before, but some people who may have been following him in lower Union grades might see something they like.

Do you think the ARU will let him go for peanuts ??

That's my point , one position that we are really struggling in is the 10 jersey in rugby union

They can't afford to have anyone with talent leaving

That's my opinion why we won't get him

We would be paying overs for a 17 year old who doesn't play the game

Wouldn't we be far better off finding a 17 year old who has played the game and spend the time and effort developing his talents

Would the ARU have anything to do with a schoolboy? I doubt it. They barely have anything to do with Super Rugby players, as can be seen by the issues with Mowen trying to get a pay rise for appearing for (and even captaining!) the Wallabies. Even the Wallabies captain can't get an upgraded ARU contract. Some kid? Highly doubtful, though I admit I don't know him or his situation in any detail.

The Waratahs or club rugby may offer him a contract but it would be up for him to decide which code. The ARU doesn't have nearly as much money as they used to, hence all the cuts.

He would most likely not cost much more than any other young player. He's a boy living in the local area with some talent why not give him a go. He might even be a tigers fan for all we know.

What is the salary cap for NYC anyway? Never knew there was one. I actually thought most young players would get a standard youth contracts on minimum wage plus assistance finding their apprenticeship/studies, unless they were also deemed worthy of a top up by the NRL/Second tier salary cap.