Aesopian
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@WT2K said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219998) said:
Hahahajajajhahaha... like looking in the mirror
Hahahajajajhahaha... like looking in the mirror
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@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219999) said:
I wish I had the brainpower and multiple personalities to do that. Would be an absolute menace.
Should have answered this with a separate account LOL
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219983) said:
This has been my only issue with how everything's panned out. Not that it's the wrong choice or anything like that, but where's the leadership from the club? Because I'm not seeing it.
So what they've finally come out and announced his moving on but they don't exactly address the media - and players now it seems.
I'm just finding it extremely hard that they don't seem to have any grasp on anything. Fair enough they can't control all negative media reports but why allow a player to learn their fate in that fashion? That was so very poorly managed IMO.
It's really disappointing to see and it's no wonder that it's so easy for (our) players and coaches to look like scapegoats.
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@Lauren said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220016) said:
Agree ... and the rot starts at the top imo
Pascoe ...is a flog and needs to be punted
@TYGA said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220001) said:
Those are the three who were agreeing with Madge and telling the other players to buy into his style according to reports
My guess is someone on the coaching staff. It couldn’t be a player manager knowing about what’s going on with Benji surely otherwise Benji would’ve known before it’s in the papers
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220043) said:
Higher up the food chain imo not the coaching staff. Anyway, whoever it is, hopefully they're found and punted from the joint.
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219968) said:
Well...that's funny cause my guess would be Mario Tartak
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@Geo said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220050) said:
Who’s he ?
@WT2K said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220048) said:
How many times do I have to reiterate Mediocrity starts from the top and as far as this club is concerned that’s where it lyes and has for decades !
If this was the case about how Benji discovered his fate for next season in the media well there is only so many people that would of know at this juncture! and no players would of known ... so there you have it still divisiveness within the club and types that still have an axe to grind and leaking information on sensitive matters if this was the case !
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@Geo said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220050) said:
Don’t think he manages Marshall different company
These three blokes want to back Madge and surprise surprise all three are in career best form.
These are the blokes who should be in our leadership group next season
These three blokes want to back Madge and surprise surprise all three are in career best form.
These are the blokes who should be in our leadership group next season
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'Can ruin teams': Tiger calls for unity after Madge's honesty session leak
Author - Dan Walsh
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp - Tue 1 Sep 2020, 06:01 PM
David Nofoaluma says the leaking of sensitive discussions from the Wests Tigers playing group is more damaging than players "walking on eggshells" around their positions in Michael Maguire's side.
The Tigers need a mathematical miracle if they're to snap the NRL longest-running finals drought, with Maguire once more ringing changes throughout his 17 for Saturday's clash with Manly.
Maguire's constant chopping and changing of the team in a bid to get the best out of a long-underperforming club came to a head during "an open and honest" team meeting on Monday.
NRL.com understands there are factions of the Tigers camp far more disenchanted with Maguire's famed intensity than others.
Monday's meeting is understood to have touched on numerous issues, including the coaching staff's communication with players, training methods and consistent team changes.
During Tuesday's media commitments, Nofoaluma and props Alex Twal and Josh Aloiai – all players who have flourished under Maguire – pointed to the coach's success at South Sydney, and the Tigers' lack of for the past decade, as cause to back him to the hilt.
Nofoaluma conceded the near-weekly upheaval of the Tigers line-up had players "a little bit worried about their job security", and confirmed the phrase "walking on eggshells" was put to Maguire.
The flying winger went one step further in pointing out the difference between perennial premiership heavyweights like the Roosters and Melbourne, and the Tigers' finals absence which stretches back to 2011.
"'Walking on eggshells' – it got out to the media what was said and it was the truth," Nofoaluma said.
"It was an honest discussion. That 'walking on eggshells', that came from within the group. The players were honest with each other and we were up front. There's a lot of noise happening around the club so we've just got to deal with it.
"For myself I'm pretty disappointed that it even got out because that there can ruin teams.
"For something like that to get out when it's an open and honest conversation amongst the playing group.
"Clubs at the top you never hear anything really coming out of their playing group. If something happens you don't hear of it.
"And I think that's why they're so successful, because they're so tight and rock solid with each other."
The Tigers are still struggling to right a top-heavy salary cap with the likes of Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer understood to have been unsuccessfully shopped to rival clubs for some time.
Tigers icon Benji Marshall has also been told he won't be offered a deal for 2021.
The upheaval continues on the field against the Sea Eagles with captain Moses Mbye reverting back to fullback for the first time in 12 months, with Adam Doueihi switching to the centres and Tommy Talau dropped for AJ Kepaoa.Nofoaluma referenced both the on and off-field uncertainty for yet another fade out from finals contention, reiterating his belief that Maguire is the man to finally turn the Tigers around.
"Why do I believe he's the right guy? How many premierships has he won? That's the only reason," Nofoaluma said.
"He's won comps, you can't argue with that.
"You've always got to buy into a coach, he's the head coach.
"But I think with certain things that have happened throughout the year, maybe it effected the team's performance, being consistent, it didn't help.
"We'd do well after players have been dropped or return from being dropped. We'd play a few good games and then fall straight back down.
"I think that's a mindset of the players being a little bit worried about their job security. It would effect anyone.
"When Madge turned up you've got to realise that he's only signed a few of his players.
"A lot of players here he had to come in and take over. It is a tough job to be a head coach. From my perspective I get along with him and I'm sure he knows what decisions to make."
Author - Dan Walsh
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp - Tue 1 Sep 2020, 06:01 PM
David Nofoaluma says the leaking of sensitive discussions from the Wests Tigers playing group is more damaging than players "walking on eggshells" around their positions in Michael Maguire's side.
The Tigers need a mathematical miracle if they're to snap the NRL longest-running finals drought, with Maguire once more ringing changes throughout his 17 for Saturday's clash with Manly.
Maguire's constant chopping and changing of the team in a bid to get the best out of a long-underperforming club came to a head during "an open and honest" team meeting on Monday.
NRL.com understands there are factions of the Tigers camp far more disenchanted with Maguire's famed intensity than others.
Monday's meeting is understood to have touched on numerous issues, including the coaching staff's communication with players, training methods and consistent team changes.
During Tuesday's media commitments, Nofoaluma and props Alex Twal and Josh Aloiai – all players who have flourished under Maguire – pointed to the coach's success at South Sydney, and the Tigers' lack of for the past decade, as cause to back him to the hilt.
Nofoaluma conceded the near-weekly upheaval of the Tigers line-up had players "a little bit worried about their job security", and confirmed the phrase "walking on eggshells" was put to Maguire.
The flying winger went one step further in pointing out the difference between perennial premiership heavyweights like the Roosters and Melbourne, and the Tigers' finals absence which stretches back to 2011.
"'Walking on eggshells' – it got out to the media what was said and it was the truth," Nofoaluma said.
"It was an honest discussion. That 'walking on eggshells', that came from within the group. The players were honest with each other and we were up front. There's a lot of noise happening around the club so we've just got to deal with it.
"For myself I'm pretty disappointed that it even got out because that there can ruin teams.
"For something like that to get out when it's an open and honest conversation amongst the playing group.
"Clubs at the top you never hear anything really coming out of their playing group. If something happens you don't hear of it.
"And I think that's why they're so successful, because they're so tight and rock solid with each other."
The Tigers are still struggling to right a top-heavy salary cap with the likes of Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer understood to have been unsuccessfully shopped to rival clubs for some time.
Tigers icon Benji Marshall has also been told he won't be offered a deal for 2021.
The upheaval continues on the field against the Sea Eagles with captain Moses Mbye reverting back to fullback for the first time in 12 months, with Adam Doueihi switching to the centres and Tommy Talau dropped for AJ Kepaoa.Nofoaluma referenced both the on and off-field uncertainty for yet another fade out from finals contention, reiterating his belief that Maguire is the man to finally turn the Tigers around.
"Why do I believe he's the right guy? How many premierships has he won? That's the only reason," Nofoaluma said.
"He's won comps, you can't argue with that.
"You've always got to buy into a coach, he's the head coach.
"But I think with certain things that have happened throughout the year, maybe it effected the team's performance, being consistent, it didn't help.
"We'd do well after players have been dropped or return from being dropped. We'd play a few good games and then fall straight back down.
"I think that's a mindset of the players being a little bit worried about their job security. It would effect anyone.
"When Madge turned up you've got to realise that he's only signed a few of his players.
"A lot of players here he had to come in and take over. It is a tough job to be a head coach. From my perspective I get along with him and I'm sure he knows what decisions to make."
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220103) said:
Pick a captain from those 4 and the rest in the leadership group.
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@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1220102) said:
I’ve never been Nofa’s biggest fan. But this year he has tried as hard as anyone and had a good season because of it. Nofa, Aloiai, Twal, Luciano and AD are the guys you want moving the club forward.
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