Spud_Murphy
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@bbobb said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219293) said:
And to top it all off Matterson will think he is vindicated!
And to top it all off Matterson will think he is vindicated!
I could be wrong here, but isn't being dropped part of taking responsibility poor performances or should I say being forced to take responsibility for your standard of performances. To the best of my knowledge Madge hasn't dropped players for a single bad game, but a pattern of performance issues over several games.
It's true Madge might have to adjust his approach, but i don't want to see a reduction in his commitment or passion. I'm a big fan of Melbourne's honesty sessions straight after the game. In a professional manner players are asked to asses their performance honestly, where they succeeded, where they failed, where they can improve and what they need to do to get right for the team. The rest of the team also provides input if needed. All honest, no BS, all focused on development for the good of the team.
It's true Madge might have to adjust his approach, but i don't want to see a reduction in his commitment or passion. I'm a big fan of Melbourne's honesty sessions straight after the game. In a professional manner players are asked to asses their performance honestly, where they succeeded, where they failed, where they can improve and what they need to do to get right for the team. The rest of the team also provides input if needed. All honest, no BS, all focused on development for the good of the team.
pawsandclaws1
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Communication is fine in the dressing room which suggests Maguire has created an atmosphere conducive to open and frank discussion. I view this as a positive.
But the discussions should remain confidential. If they don't parties may be hesitant to bring forward their concerns in the future.
Most importantly, confidentiality between parties is to me a demonstration of unity, teamwork and respect. It is a bond between coach and players. If someone has broken that bond by speaking to a third party, I would find that breach to be reprehensible.
After a long and frustrating season, players wanting to air their grievances is to be expected. Their concerns should be listened and considered. But all parties should have an expectation of privacy.
The timing is curious.
But the discussions should remain confidential. If they don't parties may be hesitant to bring forward their concerns in the future.
Most importantly, confidentiality between parties is to me a demonstration of unity, teamwork and respect. It is a bond between coach and players. If someone has broken that bond by speaking to a third party, I would find that breach to be reprehensible.
After a long and frustrating season, players wanting to air their grievances is to be expected. Their concerns should be listened and considered. But all parties should have an expectation of privacy.
The timing is curious.
I’m presuming Benji has leaked this stuff. He has heaps of friends in the media. Whenever any network show footage of us losing, they’ll never fault Benjis performance. His defence vs Roosters was horrible, but Cronk and Ennis, and on 9 the next day, Fittler and Johns, hammered the whole sides defence. They don’t mind singling out Darius but Benji is immune from any criticism
Cairnstigers
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Think of it as a long term plan@Cairnstigers said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219334) said:
Because nothing will be fixed in the short term
From my experience, the trouble probably centers on a relative few disgruntled employees. If Maguire doesn't know already who is at the core of the drama, it shouldn't take him long to work it out. The person(s) should be moved on immediately. Basically, if you're not happy playing here we expect that you will find yourself a contract at another club ASAP.
@JoshColeman99 said in [Tigers tell Maguire they’re ‘walking on eggshells’](/post/1219330) said:
In this day and age the players are all connected via social media. The bush telegraph will have spread the different versions of events already. I think whether or not JAC or Staines use this as a basis for their decision will depend more on who is mates with who.
Blocker1963
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To be fair, Madge was given a roster that was not his, and bought by Ivan to have immediate success, and paying overs for players. But to be fair to a player like Brooks, that did win Halfback of the year in 2018, and his defence has improved dramatically. There was a press conference when he was resigned and Madge saying he has worked with plenty of halfbacks and looks forward to Luke improving, well that has not happened and questions need to be asked why. Players to need to be dropped on performance, but then you take somebody like MBye and his game has been terrible all year, and doesn't get dropped, why ? Because he is Captain ? Some things are not adding up. But that's my opinion.
Alot will depend on the character of the players and the involvement of their managers.
If the players want Maguire out and their is a link between players we want and players at the club with the same managers then, the club has a problem.
The days of just backing the coach and the players having to toe the line are long gone. If there are enough contracted players determined to not co- operate with Maguire and managers steer players away from the club, then we are treading water.
The modern players appear to be more loyal to each other than the clubs they play for, - we see that every week after matches - and managers feed off that when dealing with clubs. It has become the biggest blight on the game but not sure how it can be fixed.
If the players want Maguire out and their is a link between players we want and players at the club with the same managers then, the club has a problem.
The days of just backing the coach and the players having to toe the line are long gone. If there are enough contracted players determined to not co- operate with Maguire and managers steer players away from the club, then we are treading water.
The modern players appear to be more loyal to each other than the clubs they play for, - we see that every week after matches - and managers feed off that when dealing with clubs. It has become the biggest blight on the game but not sure how it can be fixed.
The old "he's lost the dressing room" article.
We've backed the playing group through four coaches. How about we try something different this time?
We've backed the playing group through four coaches. How about we try something different this time?
Bunch of Omelette's
GNR4LIFE
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There is enough blame to go around. Yeah, a lot of players in this squad are either overpaid or not up to it, but Maguire hasn’t exactly lived up to expectations either. Everyone was so excited thinking how much of an upgrade he was on the old coach. Yet look where the old coach is sitting.
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