Tim Sheens Returns to Tigers

[innsaneink]

As long as he doesn't have too much sway with what Madge does. The last thing needed is a fly in the ointment. I have my fingers crossed that Marshall isn't the next one to show up.

I disagree. The more oversight of Maguire the better. If he doesn't like it, he is free to move on. Win win for WTs.


Thats not a win for anyone. Thats showing no trust in the person that you've entrusted initially to get the job done. Nobody can work under those conditions effectively.

Maybe well played Pascoe? Having Sheens aboard is a big improvement for our club. I can envisage him having a fatherly chat to our younger players just to impart his experience. That has to be good for WTs.


Im not saying theres no upside, but suggesting he should be keeping an eye on the coach - which I think is what you're getting at is a disaster waiting to happen.

If the powers that be were completely satisfied with what Madge was doing, Sheens role would not be required IMO.

I agree with this comment. Mentor, coaching director or whatever you chose to name it, there must be concern where it counts.

Rubbish.
Always room to improve... Roosters & Storm never rest on their laurels

 

[tony soprano]

ATM the system sems to be building fine. If it in't broke why are we fixing it? I'm not against Sheens coming back but..........

Have you seen how many games we won this year. More support across everything the better,

We have been in most games, 4 games have been decided by 4 points or less. We could easily have won another 3 of those which would have put us equal with chooks on the ladder.

Yes would of....


Hahaha, yes, my point is that we’re closer than the number of wins alone suggest. Sure, you could argue that every season we have a few close games, but doesn’t this year look different?

hopefully we turn it around second half of the season and we need all hands on deck for that to happen ??

 

[happy_tiger]

“Tim can also be a sounding board for Madge if Madge wants that,” Pascoe said.


Strange comment to make, as though your trying not to offend Madge.

Side note

- Badger and Tahu were appointed via the Wests Tigers Foundation (Mentioned by General Lee last night)

I think it's to make publically clear that Sheens isn't in charge of madge. Gotta do that or the telegraph "articles" the next day will twist it.

Madge would be a fool if he didn't ask Tim a question or two

why 95 kgs props that were formerly centres

Wingers on the bench for 77 minutes

Why excuses aren't reasons

How many dressing rooms will we need

Should we get Roycie back for the Feng Shui of the COE

Will he get invited to the bingo nights

Power cord for the Fax machine for teams

Should he call Tim Sheenius or the Fonz

What are Tim's KPI's ??

Covers everything

More importantly, what colour should we paint the COE?

isn't Sheenius a Taubmans colour ...maybe Rolf Harris can help us with a colour at British paints ......not PC ??

 

[twentyforty]

ATM the system sems to be building fine. If it in't broke why are we fixing it? I'm not against Sheens coming back but..........

Have you seen how many games we won this year. More support across everything the better,

We have been in most games, 4 games have been decided by 4 points or less. We could easily have won another 3 of those which would have put us equal with chooks on the ladder.

Could've, Should've, didn't....been saying that for the last 9 years

I get your point. Hope is for those who care.

 

[Geo]

As long as he doesn't have too much sway with what Madge does. The last thing needed is a fly in the ointment. I have my fingers crossed that Marshall isn't the next one to show up.

I disagree. The more oversight of Maguire the better. If he doesn't like it, he is free to move on. Win win for WTs.


Thats not a win for anyone. Thats showing no trust in the person that you've entrusted initially to get the job done. Nobody can work under those conditions effectively.

Maybe well played Pascoe? Having Sheens aboard is a big improvement for our club. I can envisage him having a fatherly chat to our younger players just to impart his experience. That has to be good for WTs.


Im not saying theres no upside, but suggesting he should be keeping an eye on the coach - which I think is what you're getting at is a disaster waiting to happen.

If the powers that be were completely satisfied with what Madge was doing, Sheens role would not be required IMO.

I agree with this comment. Mentor, coaching director or whatever you chose to name it, there must be concern where it counts.

Rubbish.
Always room to improve... Roosters & Storm never rest on their laurels

Exactly...why wouldn't you keep trying things to improve..we have the cash available..

Not everything has an agenda..you can find anything that suits..

 

[happy_tiger]

As long as he doesn't have too much sway with what Madge does. The last thing needed is a fly in the ointment. I have my fingers crossed that Marshall isn't the next one to show up.

I disagree. The more oversight of Maguire the better. If he doesn't like it, he is free to move on. Win win for WTs.


Thats not a win for anyone. Thats showing no trust in the person that you've entrusted initially to get the job done. Nobody can work under those conditions effectively.

Maybe well played Pascoe? Having Sheens aboard is a big improvement for our club. I can envisage him having a fatherly chat to our younger players just to impart his experience. That has to be good for WTs.


Im not saying theres no upside, but suggesting he should be keeping an eye on the coach - which I think is what you're getting at is a disaster waiting to happen.

If the powers that be were completely satisfied with what Madge was doing, Sheens role would not be required IMO.

I agree with this comment. Mentor, coaching director or whatever you chose to name it, there must be concern where it counts.

Rubbish.
Always room to improve... Roosters & Storm never rest on their laurels

Exactly...why wouldn't you keep trying things to improve..we have the cash available..

Not everything has an agenda..you can find anything that suits..

Is it coincidental that Farah and Marshall aren't on the playing roster anymore ......and we can afford him

 

[twentyforty]

As long as he doesn't have too much sway with what Madge does. The last thing needed is a fly in the ointment. I have my fingers crossed that Marshall isn't the next one to show up.

I disagree. The more oversight of Maguire the better. If he doesn't like it, he is free to move on. Win win for WTs.


Thats not a win for anyone. Thats showing no trust in the person that you've entrusted initially to get the job done. Nobody can work under those conditions effectively.

Maybe well played Pascoe? Having Sheens aboard is a big improvement for our club. I can envisage him having a fatherly chat to our younger players just to impart his experience. That has to be good for WTs.


Im not saying theres no upside, but suggesting he should be keeping an eye on the coach - which I think is what you're getting at is a disaster waiting to happen.

If the powers that be were completely satisfied with what Madge was doing, Sheens role would not be required IMO.

I agree with this comment. Mentor, coaching director or whatever you chose to name it, there must be concern where it counts.

Rubbish.
Always room to improve... Roosters & Storm never rest on their laurels

Exactly...why wouldn't you keep trying things to improve..we have the cash available..

Not everything has an agenda..you can find anything that suits..

Is it coincidental that Farah and Marshall aren't on the playing roster anymore ......and we can afford him

It’s a very convenient coincidence. Hahaha!

 

[cochise]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

 

[twentyforty]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Yes I agree. It is the cynic in me which believes it is deliberate.

 

[cochise]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.

 

[cochise]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Yes I agree. It is the cynic in me which believes it is deliberate.

I've had conspiracy theories running through my head all day and we need to avoid all them lol

 

[twentyforty]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.

Precisely! Ambiguity leaves room for a good idea to fall apart and have an opposite effect.
Maybe it’s just Pascoe flying by the seat of his pants? May be that’s all it is?

 

[cochise]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.


Precisely! Ambiguity leaves room for a good idea to fall apart and have an opposite effect.
Maybe it’s just Pascoe flying by the seat of his pants? May be that’s all it is?

I don't think so, I think they said this has been in negotiations for 6 weeks. Just a clear job description with clear organisational structures and this has a great chance of being successful.

 

[gallagher]

I would think Sheens answers to Pascoe but that doesn't mean Hartigan or Madge would answer to Sheens.

 

[Lauren]

Welcome back Tiger Tim looking forward to having you back at the club.
Well done to Justin, Lee and the organisation!!

It's no secret that the club has struggled(over the past decade or so) to change with the times or create a strong performance culture and team identity, so this to me signifies another trailblazing moment from the club.
Ironically it's by appointing someone who helped bring our only success and reuniting him with one of his pupils - and the person currently tasked with taking the team to its pinnacle.

As long as everyone's role/purpose is clearly defined and they can work collaboratively toward a common goal, there should be no issues. Our biggest problem is (re) shaping our identity and culture and I only see that we're bringing some great minds together, to achieve this.


I think the Club for a long time now has been struggling with this position and trying to find a way to make it work and havent been able to. In the end the perfect answer is to say to someone like Sheens..."here you go, you make it work".

The evidence of this has been job titles in the club. Brett Hodgson - "pathways", then he leaves for better pastures. Ronnie Palmer, moved into "pathways", then back on the magic sponge and fairy dust, Brett Kimmorley "pathways". It has seemed a dogs breakfast of half baked efforts from the outside, Im encouraged by this move.

The outlined job specifications seem more an advisor type job but looking to what others are saying on here, I say we're explicitly using him in a role to draw upon for expert/specialist aid in strategy consulting - hence the broad task description - for our junior pathways systems.
Given his previous fortune in this area and Brett Kimmorley's recent return (being a former junior grades coach) it makes it much more conceivable that we're simply focused on establishing more long-term goals and lessening Madge's load.

 

[bathursttiger1]

I would think Sheens answers to Pascoe but that doesn't mean Hartigan or Madge would answer to Sheens.

I don't think Madge or Hartigan would have to answer to Tim, he'd been more likely to have to report to Pascoe.

 

[TigerWest]

Is it similar to a frank ponesi role


I think it’s a mix of what frank and Gould does he will have his hands in development


People firing off sheenius and naming their team list is sad and inaccurate the bloke managed this football club at its darkest days operationally and in terms of money was running on empty fumes and did a fine job and gave us all great memories.

Show some respect.

That's exactly what I see the position is. The NRL coach has enough on his plate without having to manage the coaching staff of every division and age group below as well as the women's program.

You also don't really want the NRL coach to report directly to a CEO, who by rights should be experienced at running the business side not the football team. Having a football person overseeing the entire football department and creating development pathways and being a mentor for all of the coaches across all grades is a necessity in the modern professional game.

This is what Gus has been doing for years, Ponisi also and is what clubs have been chasing Bellamy and Bennett to do post their current NRL coaching jobs

Under our current structure I don't believe the coach reports directly to the ceo.

I am sure it was in the preseason, in a story on Hartigan (it would be on here somewhere) that Hartigan or Pascoe said that Madge reports to Hartigan, though Madge would be involved in all decisions, the final decision is Hartigan's.
I would expect that a decision then goes to Pascoe and maybe he board for final approval?

So, I would think that both Madge (NRL teams) and Sheens (Pathways) both report to Hartigan, who would report to Pascoe?

 

[cochise]

Is it similar to a frank ponesi role


I think it’s a mix of what frank and Gould does he will have his hands in development


People firing off sheenius and naming their team list is sad and inaccurate the bloke managed this football club at its darkest days operationally and in terms of money was running on empty fumes and did a fine job and gave us all great memories.

Show some respect.

That's exactly what I see the position is. The NRL coach has enough on his plate without having to manage the coaching staff of every division and age group below as well as the women's program.

You also don't really want the NRL coach to report directly to a CEO, who by rights should be experienced at running the business side not the football team. Having a football person overseeing the entire football department and creating development pathways and being a mentor for all of the coaches across all grades is a necessity in the modern professional game.

This is what Gus has been doing for years, Ponisi also and is what clubs have been chasing Bellamy and Bennett to do post their current NRL coaching jobs

Under our current structure I don't believe the coach reports directly to the ceo.

I am sure it was in the preseason, in a story on Hartigan (it would be on here somewhere) that Hartigan or Pascoe said that Madge reports to Hartigan, though Madge would be involved in all decisions, the final decision is Hartigan's.
I would expect that a decision then goes to Pascoe and maybe he board for final approval?

So, I would think that both Madge (NRL teams) and Sheens (Pathways) both report to Hartigan, who would report to Pascoe?

I didn't see that article but that is my exact understanding of the current structure, and that is exactly how I would like it to run now Sheens is here as well.