Tim Sheens Returns to Tigers

[KingRobbie]

I can remember Ben Galea with ball in hand picking someone up and illegally dumping the defensive player on his head. Not illegal he had ball in hand. SHEENS COACHED SIDE. Be happy he is back.

One of the all-time great fends.

Against the Warriors if I remember right.

 

[WT2K]

Mid season Kiama trip returns too 😁😅

 

[Spartan117]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

 

[oldprop]

Mid season Kiama trip returns too 😁😅

Great, I think it actually worked a couple of times.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

 

[BZN]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

 

[TigerWest]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. **What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field?** It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

You can't be serious?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. **What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field?** It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

You can't be serious?

What is so shocking about that? Increased revenue means capacity to bring in assistance where needed to improve on field results and further improve the bottom line. It's a business after all.

 

[BZN]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

 

[Spartan117]

Madge's Hard Work and Discipline and Sheens' Creativity

The Perfect Yin and Yang

Tigers Future is looking bright

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html

 

[twentyforty]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html

Paws, that’s an 8month old piece of gutter journalism. It’s clear Chamas did his own pre-exit interviews on players who were told they’re not needed in 21. Belongs in the gossip section.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html


Paws, that’s an 8month old piece of gutter journalism. It’s clear Chamas did his own pre-exit interviews on players who were told they’re not needed in 21. Belongs in the gossip section.

Many pre-exit interviews are conducted by corporations, Govt bodies and even football clubs. It doesn't make the results any less relevant. In fact, it may make them more relevant as outgoing employees are more likely to provide frank and fearless feedback. If they weren't considered beneficial, why would they be done?

 

[crazycat]

I can remember Ben Galea with ball in hand picking someone up and illegally dumping the defensive player on his head. Not illegal he had ball in hand. SHEENS COACHED SIDE. Be happy he is back.

One of the all-time great fends.

Against the Warriors if I remember right.

Wow:
"I can remember Ben Galea with ball in hand picking someone up and illegally dumping the defensive player on his head. Not illegal he had ball in hand. SHEENS COACHED SIDE."

I have a new definition of the difference between Illegal and Immoral:
Alex McKinnon!

 

[twentyforty]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html


Paws, that’s an 8month old piece of gutter journalism. It’s clear Chamas did his own pre-exit interviews on players who were told they’re not needed in 21. Belongs in the gossip section.

Many pre-exit interviews are conducted by corporations, Govt bodies and even football clubs. It doesn't make the results any less relevant. In fact, it may make them more relevant as outgoing employees are more likely to provide frank and fearless feedback. If they weren't considered beneficial, why would they be done?

Many of those interviews you describe would include employees leaving of their own accord, unlike the Chamas group, who were all basically told they’re not playing well enough and therefore won’t be offered another contract. Big difference. If you want accurate info/data of value you need higher numbers with a variety of reasons for their departure, not 2 or 3 with an axe to grind.

 

[crazycat]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

Well said and right on:
"But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today."

I remember a Commentator saying:
There are only 4 different teams, The Tigers, Manly, <someone else> and the rest are Immitating Melbourne.

Sheens will be like Mal has been to the Gold Coast. Sheens playbook is worth its weight in gold. Sheens and McGuire have worked well together in the past.

Moreover I remember reading about Easts, two things stick out there:
Robinson would talk with Cheika and other code coaches regularly to get ideas and perspective. I think that helped him be a far better coach.

Craig Fitz.. he apparently would wressle with anyone. He would push the players to go harder and tougher....

Farah or Liam Fulton is that kind of player for us. We need that old hand just pushing the guys coming in to go harder.

Getting Sheens by himself, would not do it. Having Sheens and Farah is going to up our training. We need to develop better and having Sheens focus on Long term will help us Develop better!!!

 

[Telltails]

A clubs success is down to more than one individual's input. The club is putting together a great team of people all who are contributing in trying to turn this club around. If it is successful, it will be because of their ability to have the same goals and work together to achieve them, and won't be solely because of one person's contribution.

 

[mike]

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.

Who do people think Sheens will be reporting to in his new role at the club?

Pascoe?

Board

See that is the thing you can't have 4 people reporting to the board, it doesn't work well.

Yeah you probably right reports to ceo who reports to board both I guess.

The way it seems to me to currently run is you have Justin Pascoe as CEO with a focus on the admin side of the organistion, then just under him you have Adam Hartigan as General Manager of Football who is responsible for the football side of things, from my dealings with the club Madge seems to be under Hartigan. **So where Sheens fits in this structure becomes important**, if he is sitting under Hartigan and responsible for the pathways etc then that probably works well and he then has Kimmorley and the other new guy working below him. With this many ego and highly motivated people under one roof it is important to get these things right and clear to everyone.

If we have this right we just need to then improve the structure on the admin and commercial side of the business.

That's already been established... Floater..

Floater suggests a degree of autonomy and is a wonderfully flexible role description.

I would hope there is a more defined job description.


I doubt it. It’s clear they didn’t have any job specs so it would follow there’s no description of tasks and duties to be performed?
I imagine as a floater Tim will write his JD as he adds new layers to it?

That is exactly what we need to avoid.


Precisely! Ambiguity leaves room for a good idea to fall apart and have an opposite effect.
Maybe it’s just Pascoe flying by the seat of his pants? May be that’s all it is?

I don't think so, I think they said this has been in negotiations for 6 weeks. Just a clear job description with clear organisational structures and this has a great chance of being successful.


I meant flying by the seat of his pants announcing the new position and appointment. If there was no advertisement for the position, then it’s possible the recruitment of Sheens came before the job specs, which means that he is left to write his own job description? I think it has all happened too quick for Pascoe with cart before the horse decision making from the board and it shows by his announcement of Sheens’ recruitment.

Not sure they need to advertise the position? But how do you know they didn't?

Maybe they recognised a need, they heard Sheens was coming home and they approached him?

TBH, if he has no direct reporting link to the NRL team, then I can't see a problem?

It would be a pretty powerful meet and greet to a player, having Madge, Hartigan & Sheens front up for a chat?

I don’t know if they advertised the position, that’s my point! But perhaps you’re right, they may have conceived this great idea that a head of football was required, asked the question, what does he do? Or what do we want that person to do? Why do we need that position.? Then filed all that info away, relied on the power of positive thought and suddenly Tim Sheens, the most qualified applicant for the position comes knocking. It’s more likely, by Pascoe’s announcement that Tim told them they need him. He may have been prompted by Madge? Who knows?

We already have a head of football.

Sheens won’t answer to anyone as he still uses post-it- notes .

And still doesn’t know what a KPI is.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over thinking this.

Sheens back in Australia hookong up with one of his old clubs as a consultant and heavyweight in the statesman/ Recruitment area.

This is still the Madge and Hartigan show.

I believe Sheens' influence on the players, especially the younger ones, will be noticeable. His football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching.

"his football was always built around positivity, which cannot always be said about Maguire's coaching" .
It seems to me that you genuinely know more than the average fan, so I'm interested to know why you say that.

I don't know more than the average supporter. But Sheens was and no doubt still is an innovator. His style of free flowing football could be adapted to the game today. Maguire has struggled to adapt his coaching to the pace of the game today.

Pascoe is a winner and has achieved outstanding results off the field. What is to say he doesn't want to help WTs achieve outstanding results on field? It will improve the bottom line as a business. Certainly the appointment of Sheens has been well received. A winner recognises another winner!

Most of all, I cannot wait until Sheens has a chat with our players, especially our youngsters. He from all accounts is an excellent communicator, an area in which we have been lacking.

I dont know if Madge is a good communicator or not.
What makes you say he is not a good communicator?
And it may well be that Madge was the main man in getting Sheens back to Us.
From what I have heard there has been plenty of instances both here in Oz as well as o/s that the best coaches have sought help in coaching or motivating their **team**.
And that to me suggests a sign of a very good coach ie he is not afraid to ask for the best help available to get the best out of his players.
So I agree with you when you say "a winner recognises another winner" :+1: .

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html


Paws, that’s an 8month old piece of gutter journalism. It’s clear Chamas did his own pre-exit interviews on players who were told they’re not needed in 21. Belongs in the gossip section.

Many pre-exit interviews are conducted by corporations, Govt bodies and even football clubs. It doesn't make the results any less relevant. In fact, it may make them more relevant as outgoing employees are more likely to provide frank and fearless feedback. If they weren't considered beneficial, why would they be done?

Many of those interviews you describe would include employees leaving of their own accord, unlike the Chamas group, who were all basically told they’re not playing well enough and therefore won’t be offered another contract. Big difference. If you want accurate info/data of value you need higher numbers with a variety of reasons for their departure, not 2 or 3 with an axe to grind.

The reason for leaving is irrelevant. You don't classify employee's feedback as irrelevant because they are forced out or likely to provide feedback that may highlight inadequacies in part of an organisation or individual. And you are never going to have large numbers departing unless you are the transit lounge. Importantly someone like Reynolds who was known as a club man and with long NRL experience at the top may have insight into the issues in the sheds.