Tim Simona - Deregistered

@Newtown said:
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Tim Simona stood down over betting scandal

By WWOS staff
2 hours ago

Wests Tigers back Tim Simona is facing being rubbed out of the game after becoming embroiled in a betting scandal.

The NRL said they had issued Simona with a notice to cancel his registration after he was alleged to have broken rules relating to gambling on the game.

Simona has the right to appeal but has been stood down from training and will not be allowed to play before the matter is finalised.

He will be given a chance to respond to the allegations before a final determination is made.

The NRL will not be commenting further until the matter is resolved.

More to come …

Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/02/17/13/58/tigers-stand-down-tim-simona-over-gambling#tUOuphYst6FdZUUG.99

So until the matter is resolved i guess he remains in our cap - which puts us behind the 8 ball - we have a player on i guess 350 - 400k and he is not allowed to play and we can't look at a replacement until the mess is sorted - lets hope the NRL don't drag this out over the season.
 
@magpiecol said:
@bp tiger said:
so why is he sack now, I thought u where innocent till proven guilty. yet that knuckle head Lovett gets done and is still here, something stinks in tiger land.

So without knowing all he facts, you put the boot into the club. It would seem that the NRL has de-registered Simona. So something is not right.

Let's wait and see what the facts are before jumping to judgement.

:bash

are u a dill I never mentioned the club, it says that the NRL stood him down. so its good for u to verbal me, ur always looking too put people down.
 
@bp tiger said:
@magpiecol said:
@bp tiger said:
so why is he sack now, I thought u where innocent till proven guilty. yet that knuckle head Lovett gets done and is still here, something stinks in tiger land.

So without knowing all he facts, you put the boot into the club. It would seem that the NRL has de-registered Simona. So something is not right.

Let's wait and see what the facts are before jumping to judgement.

:bash

are u a dill I never mentioned the club, it says that the NRL stood him down. so its good for u to verbal me, ur always looking too put people down.

Without picking sides BP it does appear as though you are putting the boot in to the tigers - maybe you worded it wrongly.
 
@Tiger4life said:
@Enmoretiger said:
What an incredible disappointment.
This guy had talent and speed to burn. What has happened here?
There is a large moral issue to be answered about betting in sport and it is a social evil. I cringe every time I saw someone provide the odds about a game before kick off and during half time. I am not a betting person, but I do not condone it either; horse for course as they say. It has got in too deep into peoples lives.

I think its disgraceful. We wont go anywhere near cigarette companies, but we are happy to promote gambling which to me is a disease and we do it while our young kids are sitting down with their families watching the footy. There is no morals there at all, all about the dollar signs which is disgraceful.

Gambling isnt a disease
Addiction can be classed as a disease.
People get addicted to gambling, and many other varied things, drugs, booze, sex, food, work, shopping

I agree its making young people think gambling AND sport is the norm, when its not….I dont like how they prey on vulnreable people, offering fancy inflated odds on high profile events just to get people to d/l the app....not much different to a drug dealer handing out a few freebies to try and create some regular clients
Just another thing thats reducing my interest in the game
 
The NRL betting code states "no NRL employee, NRL club employee, player, player manager or game official is allowed to participate, or be directly or indirectly involved in any way, in gambling in relation to rugby league.

"Or be involved directly or indirectly, in the provision of information not already in the public domain that might assist another person to gamble in relation to rugby league."

In 2014, the NRL banned five players including Manly's David Williams and North Queensland's Ethan Lowe after they were found guilty of betting on games involving their clubs. Then NRL chief operating officer Jim Doyle promised a zero tolerance policy on betting and the governing body vowed to implement strict counter measures.
 
There is no excuse for Simona.

Even if it was a $20 bet (Which I doubt by the sound of things) players get the education.

They know the risks.
 
@bp tiger said:
@magpiecol said:
@bp tiger said:
so why is he sack now, I thought u where innocent till proven guilty. yet that knuckle head Lovett gets done and is still here, something stinks in tiger land.

So without knowing all he facts, you put the boot into the club. It would seem that the NRL has de-registered Simona. So something is not right.

Let's wait and see what the facts are before jumping to judgement.

:bash

are u a dill I never mentioned the club, it says that the NRL stood him down. so its good for u to verbal me, ur always looking too put people down.

Maybe BP should have said "Something stinks in NRL land". They support wholesale betting to take place in NRL yet don't think that it provides a huge temptation to anyone associated with the game.
 
My understanding is he had minor bets on a couple of games. This does not make the guy the spawn of satan. To suggest that a player caught in possession of drugs isn't as bad as a punter is crazy.

It is legal for all of us to bet, It is against the law for anyone to be in possession or use drugs.

So one commits a crime against a sporting code gets sacked, the other our countries laws and the NRL code but is ONLY suspended for two weeks. :crazy

If you are going to sack a man for a couple of small bets on games that were not his own (there is no suggestion of match fixing), then you must sack a man who is in possession of drugs.

Just doesn't make sense.
 
Australia is reputed to be the highest gambling country in the world, loses per person around $1,288.00 per person. Governments are addicted to gambling revenue. NSW was one of the earliest when Bob Carr gave Pubs poker machines to keep them off his back when he brought in RBA's to curb the totally unacceptable road tolls. Sporting clubs are also addicted to it, it is for the moment social accepted, then again so was cocaine in the late 1800 century. It is insidious, and I hate how it has wormed itself into my lounge room when I want to watch footy. It is easy to blame the individual, harder to look at the big picture. Timmy what happened to you?
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
My understanding is he had minor bets on a couple of games. This does not make the guy the spawn of satan. To suggest that a player caught in possession of drugs isn't as bad as a punter is crazy.

It is legal for all of us to bet, It is against the law for anyone to be in possession or use drugs.

So one commits a crime against a sporting code gets sacked, the other our countries laws and the NRL code but is ONLY suspended for two weeks. :crazy

If you are going to sack a man for a couple of small bets on games that were not his own (there is no suggestion of match fixing), then you must sack a man who is in possession of drugs.

Just doesn't make sense.

If he has bet against the WT's he is worse than the spawn of Satan
 
@Enmoretiger said:
Australia is reputed to be the highest gambling country in the world, loses per person around $1,288.00 per person. Governments are addicted to gambling revenue. NSW was one of the earliest when Bob Carr gave Pubs poker machines to keep them off his back when he brought in RBA's to curb the totally unacceptable road tolls. Sporting clubs are also addicted to it, it is for the moment social accepted, then again so was cocaine in the late 1800 century. It is insidious, and I hate how it has wormed itself into my lounge room when I want to watch footy. It is easy to blame the individual, harder to look at the big picture. Timmy what happened to you?

Id bet China or another Asian country has more gambling than us
 
@Newtown said:
@happy tiger said:
@wd in perth said:
A good step by the NRL would be to get rid of all betting advertising. That's a complete no brainer. It's kind of ironic that a player has an issue with the very product they promote.

I know, I know….there's no issue with things in moderation, but some might say the same about booze, smokes or whatever.

Too much money is tipped into sport from the betting agencies

Look at the EPL , every 2nd team is backed by a betting agency

The NRL are a hypocritical example of the worst kind. They won't ban betting agencies because of cash offshoot and fan interest due to betting.

I can't really blame the NRL for taking the gambling industry's money, because if it's not them then the money will go to some other sport. The government needs to take it out of their hands and legislate a ban on gambling advertising. At the very least, advertising should not be seen anywhere at the ground, on TV, or any official sporting websites.
 
If the guy wants a couple of 20 buck bets he should get a mate to place them but you would have to think this is bigger than that, but as others have said at this point time he is guilty of nothing
 
Kieran Foran anyone?

Wonder if Todd Greenburg feels compelled to reinstate Tim Simona on the same basis that Kieran has come back?
 
@TigerWoods said:
I read this as "Rankin earns spot in starting 17".
DAMMIT!!!

Oh the humanity

The prospect of Kev in the centres is much much worse than Rankin plodding on the wing.
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
My understanding is he had minor bets on a couple of games. This does not make the guy the spawn of satan. To suggest that a player caught in possession of drugs isn't as bad as a punter is crazy.

It is legal for all of us to bet, It is against the law for anyone to be in possession or use drugs.

So one commits a crime against a sporting code gets sacked, the other our countries laws and the NRL code but is ONLY suspended for two weeks. :crazy

If you are going to sack a man for a couple of small bets on games that were not his own (there is no suggestion of match fixing), then you must sack a man who is in possession of drugs.

Just doesn't make sense.

What is worse is what the West Tigers management was doing. They obviously new about Simona gambling issues and I would probably say Lovett's drug issue as well yet they tried to fob them off to others clubs before it became public knowledge. A very poor effort by our management probably dishonest would be a better word.
But I'm sure it will be covered over and nothing done about it. The NRL should investigate what our management new about this and what they were doing.
 
@happy tiger said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
My understanding is he had minor bets on a couple of games. This does not make the guy the spawn of satan. To suggest that a player caught in possession of drugs isn't as bad as a punter is crazy.

It is legal for all of us to bet, It is against the law for anyone to be in possession or use drugs.

So one commits a crime against a sporting code gets sacked, the other our countries laws and the NRL code but is ONLY suspended for two weeks. :crazy

If you are going to sack a man for a couple of small bets on games that were not his own (there is no suggestion of match fixing), then you must sack a man who is in possession of drugs.

Just doesn't make sense.

If he has bet against the WT's he is worse than the spawn of Satan

If he did bet against us then he certainly is. And he would be done for match fixing as well.

But at this stage there is no suggestion that he has.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@TigerWoods said:
I read this as "Rankin earns spot in starting 17".
DAMMIT!!!

Oh the humanity

The prospect of Kev in the centres is much much worse than Rankin plodding on the wing.

I appreciate that the rankin bashing can be nauseating, but Kev in the centres is a lot better than rankin on the wing. Rankin offers nothing in defense or attack. He's not even a top shelf goal kicker. While Kev can be caught out of position in defense, at least he is a threat in attack
 

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