Top 25 contracted playing squad / Elijah Taylor - Farah.

[GNR4LIFE]

That assumes he's motivated by loyalty.

Ok, educate me, what is it motivated by. What other reason could he have to stay and risk finishing his career in reserve grade?

Vindictiveness
Competitiveness
Legacy building

Canning the club in the media doesn't sit comfortably with loyalty for mine.

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

 

[tigerap]

I would assume that the re-signing priority would be:-

1\. Teddy
2\. Woods
3\. Moses
4\. Brooks

 

[cochise]

Ok, educate me, what is it motivated by. What other reason could he have to stay and risk finishing his career in reserve grade?

Vindictiveness
Competitiveness
Legacy building

Canning the club in the media doesn't sit comfortably with loyalty for mine.

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

 

[innsaneink]

Yeh… You don't get it
He can discuss problems..... that's a fine working relationship .. You do it in house.
You DON'T get your manager and his colleague to smear the club with mud in the media

 

[cochise]

Yeh… You don't get it
He can discuss problems..... that's a fine working relationship .. You do it in house.
You DON'T get your manager and his colleague to smear the club with mud in the media

That's your assumption that he has done that. So a coach is allowed to state publically that he is un-cohesive for the team but he has to discuss it in-house?

 

[gallagher]

No player has the right to criticise the coach, player or club to the media. That's what being in a team is all about.
Farah doesn't get it, nor do some fans.

 

[innsaneink]

Yeh… You don't get it
He can discuss problems..... that's a fine working relationship .. You do it in house.
You DON'T get your manager and his colleague to smear the club with mud in the media

That's your assumption that he has done that. So a coach is allowed to state publically that he is un-cohesive for the team but he has to discuss it in-house?

Yep. Coach is the senior figure.
You're getting it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Vindictiveness
Competitiveness
Legacy building

Canning the club in the media doesn't sit comfortably with loyalty for mine.

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

The difference between player and supporter is a supporter is not a paid employee of the club. We don't have to work with those we criticise that potentially harm team morale.

 

[cochise]

Yeh… You don't get it
He can discuss problems..... that's a fine working relationship .. You do it in house.
You DON'T get your manager and his colleague to smear the club with mud in the media

You like any of us in this situation have no idea what has occurred to get the player and the club to this point, you have no idea of the inner workings. It is time for Robbie to move on, this is has played out in the media terribly for all 3 parties involved. But to say he as no right to speak publically and then do the same thing is hypercritical, I don't care who is paid. Loyalty is not about being paid, it is defined as strong support or allegiance, if Robbie is being disloyal then so are the people criticising the club, it really is that simple.

 

[Nelson]

Vindictiveness
Competitiveness
Legacy building

Canning the club in the media doesn't sit comfortably with loyalty for mine.

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

Look I'm not trying to tell you how you should see the situation, I'm just telling you that others look at the same body of information and see things differently. That's life.

I don't think I'm being hypocritical. I'm commenting on a small distribution forum of club supporters who will likely have their own dyed in the wool views. I'm not an employee of the club. It's not the same as commenting to mainstream media as an employee & you strike me as too smart to think otherwise.

 

[cochise]

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

Look I'm not trying to tell you how you should see the situation, I'm just telling you that others look at the same body of information and see things differently. That's life.

I don't think I'm being hypocritical. I'm commenting on a small distribution forum of club supporters who will likely have their own dyed in the wool views. I'm not an employee of the club. It's not the same as commenting to mainstream media as an employee & you strike me as too smart to think otherwise.

I 100% agree that Robbie has said things that he shouldn't have.

 

[diedpretty]

Vindictiveness
Competitiveness
Legacy building

Canning the club in the media doesn't sit comfortably with loyalty for mine.

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

You can't be serious in suggesting that fans who fork out money to a club have no rights to question that club yet a contracted employee on big money of the same club has every right to do so without any comeback on him. Robbie has earnt nothing other than to abide what the club decides to do with him. He happily signed a lucrative contract to do just that.

 

[stevetiger]

Yet again I'm hearing all this bad stuff on here that Robbie has done. What did he say ? I thought he said basically a bunch of stuff that was spot on. It definitely was nothing to get your panties in a knot over.

 

[Geo]

Yet again I'm hearing all this bad stuff on here that Robbie has done. What did he say ? I thought he said basically a bunch of stuff that was spot on. It definitely was nothing to get your panties in a knot over.

Don't really understand Team Sport huh steve…

 

[Harvey]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

Where did I mention the cap, I said cough up the extra from what we are paying Taylor and get Cleary.

From memory, Cleary's winning percentage is less than 50%. How does that justify him putting himself in the Bennett and Bellamy pay scale. Has never won a premiership, but has a massive reputation. Sort of like Brian Smith, but with a worse record

 

[Eddie]

There the people that have not liked Farah and really want him out but have and managed to stay constructive about things throughout. They understand that a guy who has played 247 games at this club deserves some respect.

Then where are those that are happy to call him names, abuse him every thread, cheap jokes, bag him at every opportunity etc. These same fans hate some apparent traits in Farah behave similarly themselves in this forum.

 

[cochise]

But canning players and the club on a public forum is loyal behaviour on behalf of a supporter? If he shouldn't be discussing the problems with the club due to loyalty, then neither should you. He has a major larger right than you do to discuss the problems at the club.

If you don't get the difference you probably won't understand the explanation.

No I get it fully, Nelson and anyone else here has every right to be critical of the club or players, I don't have a problem with that. I do however find it hypercritical of a supporter to say that a player can not discuss the problems they see in the club when in the exacts same post they are criticizing the player for being disloyal for doing the same thing. If it is disloyal for a club captain, premiership winner to criticize then it's disloyal for supporter to do same. And this I pay money, he gets paid argument is just crap. Robbie has earnt the right to discuss this club's future and to defend himself.

You can't be serious in suggesting that fans who fork out money to a club have no rights to question that club yet a contracted employee on big money of the same club has every right to do so without any comeback on him. Robbie has earnt nothing other than to abide what the club decides to do with him. He happily signed a lucrative contract to do just that.

Not what I suggested at all, what I am saying, is that the fans do have right to question the club and players but if they want to exercise that right then it is hypercritical for them to bag a player and call him disloyal for doing the same thing.

 

[Kavi]

There the people that have not liked Farah and really want him out but have and managed to stay constructive about things throughout. They understand that a guy who has played 247 games at this club deserves some respect.

Then where are those that are happy to call him names, abuse him every thread, cheap jokes, bag him at every opportunity etc. These same fans hate some apparent traits in Farah behave similarly themselves in this forum.

I wasn't going to reply but… he basicly said the coach is trash, our defence is trash, our attack isn't a problem and it aint got nothing to do with me

"I'll try not to do anything wrong because I think that's what they're trying to get me to do, but I'm a bit smarter than that."

i wonder why people don't like him that much anymore, does robbie work at a gun shop cause he's giving away free ammo :wink:

 

[Eddie]

Kavi I have always said Farah is not perfect. I have not defended him all the time. Far from it, I have been critical of him on a number of occasions. People though have the blinkers on and only seem to see my comments where i defend him in certain instances.

However I don't take the opportunity to constantly bag, joke about and call names of a bloke who has dedicated 13/14 years to this club and won a premiership at this club. Some have revelled in his misery, they have enjoyed his demise. I find it poor form but thats just my opinion.

You couldn't resist a cheap gag like many others. There a few that have argued constructively and fairly against all things Farah and I have no issue with that.

 

[hammertime]

There the people that have not liked Farah and really want him out but have and managed to stay constructive about things throughout. They understand that a guy who has played 247 games at this club deserves some respect.

Then where are those that are happy to call him names, abuse him every thread, cheap jokes, bag him at every opportunity etc. These same fans hate some apparent traits in Farah behave similarly themselves in this forum.

I think it's that people love the club, first and foremost, then the players in it from time to time.

When you attack the club, that's when the people who bleed black and gold get upset. That's what Robbie and ayoub have done with their media campaign. It should never happen by one of our own.