Top 25 contracted playing squad / Elijah Taylor - Farah.

[Geo]

Storm just re-signed Coops…perhaps we could throw in a tinny as goodwill...(not quite a boat)

 

[GNR4LIFE]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

Tedesco signed before round 13 when contracts officially are registered. JAC didn't.

 

[851]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

 

[Geo]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

Tedesco signed before round 13 when contracts officially are registered. JAC didn't.

Round 13 rule no longer exists since the DCE fiasco..Contracts can be signed after Nov 1 preceding the year a player is off contract… .Players and Clubs then have a 10 day cooling off period once a contract is signed to back out...Once that period ends...no backflips...A release will need to be granted...

 

[supercoach]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

I realise that, but Taylor is reported to be on a pretty basic contract. My point if we are paying Brooks and co around 600g year surly it is not unreasonable to pay your coach around the same if not a little more and I guess that is the sort of money Cleary is looking for… and as you said it is not coming out of any cap so basically if we can scrape the cash together we can pay the coach what ever we can afford.

I suppose Pascoe and Oniell think Taylor can get the job done for cheaper

 

[Flippedy]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

I agree about the petition X2, Addo-Carr will be a very good player he has that X factor, I know it's early stages but I can see a lot of potential in this kid. Only negative about him is how he gets man handled in his kick returns but he'll grow with age and get bigger and stronger with experience as well.

With the Tedesco situation, I'm pretty sure he back flipped before the deadline so it's legal just like the DCE situation. Time ran up on JAC and its Storms choice whether to let him go or not!

Yeah he is still pretty raw, but the X factor potential is very obvious - I hope we can keep him somehow.

Thanks for the info re Teddy's contract, I wasn't sure about the timing of his back flip.

 

[851]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

Where did I mention the cap, I said cough up the extra from what we are paying Taylor and get Cleary.

 

[Sco77y]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

I realise that, but Taylor is reported to be on a pretty basic contract. My point if we are paying Brooks and co around 600g year surly it is not unreasonable to pay your coach around the same if not a little more and I guess that is the sort of money Cleary is looking for… and as you said it is not coming out of any cap so basically if we can scrape the cash together we can pay the coach what ever we can afford.

I suppose Pascoe and Oniell think Taylor can get the job done for cheaper

Does anyone have any stats on Cleary's career so far? What makes you think he'd be any better than JT? He would be coming in at square one and with different views and opinions on how things should run within the playing group. It would take a season or two for the team to adapt.. Again. Can't see signing Cleary or similar being of any benefit whatsoever.

 

[cochise]

Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

 

[Nelson]

Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

 

[cochise]

Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

It has only being incorrectly made 365 times over the past year. Not a good look for comprehension of football fans.

 

[cochise]

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

It has only being incorrectly made 365 times over the past year. Not a good look for comprehension of football fans.

I'm not a Farah fanboy at all but this really annoys me, by now the people doing it are either purposely distorting the situation or are really really dumb as they have been corrected so many times.

 

[VanillaThunder]

So with Blake Green off to Manly and Rankin wanting to play halves, any chance we can ship him off to Melbourne to cover some of the compo for JAC? I know Bellamy is probably too smart to accept it, but I'd assume with them losing a half and a winger, Rankin might pique some interest?

 

[tiger_one]

So with Blake Green off to Manly and Rankin wanting to play halves, any chance we can ship him off to Melbourne to cover some of the compo for JAC? I know Bellamy is probably too smart to accept it, but I'd assume with them losing a half and a winger, Rankin might pique some interest?

Please! Please! Please!

 

[newtiger]

I would assume that the re-signing priority would be:-

1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. ET
4\. Brooks

I think it would be:
1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. Woods
4\. Brooks

 

[stevetiger]

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

It has only being incorrectly made 365 times over the past year. Not a good look for comprehension of football fans.

I'm not a Farah fanboy at all but this really annoys me, by now the people doing it are either purposely distorting the situation or are really really dumb as they have been corrected so many times.

I'm pretty confident that it's a combination of purposely distorting the situation and being really really dumb.

 

[cochise]

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

It has only being incorrectly made 365 times over the past year. Not a good look for comprehension of football fans.

I'm not a Farah fanboy at all but this really annoys me, by now the people doing it are either purposely distorting the situation or are really really dumb as they have been corrected so many times.

I'm pretty confident that it's a combination of purposely distorting the situation and being really really dumb.

Yep, that is how I see it too.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

Once again he is not being paid $950K for next season, he is being paid for previous years. He is on a backended contract.

Probably because he'll be putting a $950K dent in our salary cap however you look at it.

No kidding, but it is unfair to claim he is not worth $950K when he is not being paid that based on being a player worth paying 950K. He is being paid that because they club got themselves in a salary cap mess and he accepted less money on the condition it will be paid back at the end of his contract. This is not his fault and to say he is not playing to the standard of a $950K player is a stupid argument made by bitter people.

It's like bashing your head against a wall,
No matter how many times some are shown that their whole argument is based on a determination to not see( or admit that they see) that Farahs cost to the club is only because shonky club officials back ended his contract, probably because they thought they'd be able to get out of paying the last couple of years, by doing exactly what current Club officials , and "Coach "are trying to do now.
Understanding why we have such a big amount owing to Farah isn't hard, if they put aside their hatred of him and look at the facts.
It's the clubs fault that they owe him so much. :brick: