Triple M rumour

[innsaneink]

No…dont lie steve. That isnt true
Robbies service this year has been the worst of his career...a lot more bad passes than usual. many behind the players stalling momentum, dunno how many have gone to ground...many passes to no one.
Its what happens at the end of your career

 

[Harvey]

The difference in treatment between Robbie and Corey Parker is astounding.

Corey is being treated with dignity and respect.
Robbie is being treated like a cancer.

I understand and respect Taylor's courage, but there are better ways that he can do this.

Bit lost on this one. Corey wanted another year or 2 and was told he was not going to get it so retired with dignity. He could have come out and said how he only ever wanted to play for the Broncos, had given them the best years of his life only to be shafted. If they had a less known coach, he could have maybe undermined him and used his influence at the club to get them sacked so he could look after himself, but did not work out that way for him

I think this shows the difference between the way Robbie has been handled and the way Corey has been handled. A simple comment at the end of this season that we wouldn't be resigning Robbie in 2018 and this will be his last year was all that was required.

I don't respect Taylor for how he handled this situation and I'm at a loss why it's considered courageous.

Harvey - it's interesting how you conveniently miss the fact that Robbie is signed for next year. It doesn't fit your story.

Again I am lost. Not sure how announcing at the end of this season that he was no longer required would have helped, he would have stayed next year. We told him much the same at the end of last year, and like a fart in an elevator, he is still hanging around like a bad smell

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The cowboys have Thurston and Morgan who are outstanding attacking halves, they also have a hooker who engages the defence quite regularly, and darts out of dummy half all the time, and bugger me they won the comp last year doing what you say we shouldn't.

It's going to be interesting when the defences start to rush straight to the halves and really start to smash them. They might wish that our Hooker could take a few runs to put the defence in two minds , and take the pressure off.
It's going to be funny seeing how Taylor has to back down on his no run hooker/winger/ back rower/( whoever is the weeks flavour). Simply to give some protection to the halves.
Will he then relegate whoever is the hooker to reserve grade??????
Surely Taylor has too much integrity to have one rule for his " specials", and one for a different player :laughing:

The cowboys also have a pack that almos
t always gets them on the front foot allowing the dummy half room.
We dont have that luxury as often.
Its why JT wants his halves getting quick ball… because unlike the cowboys our PTBs arent usually as quick as theirs due to our innefectiveness in the ruck & wrestle.
As for our halves getting smashed by rushing forwards...they'll relish the thought of that...stand a bity deeper, be patient, bide their time and those rushing forward s will soon be huffing and puffing forwards with Luke & mitch making them look silly

If only it' was that easy, .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The difference in treatment between Robbie and Corey Parker is astounding.

Corey is being treated with dignity and respect.
Robbie is being treated like a cancer.

I understand and respect Taylor's courage, but there are better ways that he can do this.

Bit lost on this one. Corey wanted another year or 2 and was told he was not going to get it so retired with dignity. He could have come out and said how he only ever wanted to play for the Broncos, had given them the best years of his life only to be shafted. If they had a less known coach, he could have maybe undermined him and used his influence at the club to get them sacked so he could look after himself, but did not work out that way for him

I think this shows the difference between the way Robbie has been handled and the way Corey has been handled. A simple comment at the end of this season that we wouldn't be resigning Robbie in 2018 and this will be his last year was all that was required.

I don't respect Taylor for how he handled this situation and I'm at a loss why it's considered courageous.

Harvey - it's interesting how you conveniently miss the fact that Robbie is signed for next year. It doesn't fit your story.

Again I am lost. Not sure how announcing at the end of this season that he was no longer required would have helped, he would have stayed next year. We told him much the same at the end of last year, and like a fart in an elevator, he is still hanging around like a bad smell

No he's still here because this club contracted him to be here,
It must be so easy to forget that fact,isn't it??????

 

[851]

The difference in treatment between Robbie and Corey Parker is astounding.

Corey is being treated with dignity and respect.
Robbie is being treated like a cancer.

I understand and respect Taylor's courage, but there are better ways that he can do this.

Bit lost on this one. Corey wanted another year or 2 and was told he was not going to get it so retired with dignity. He could have come out and said how he only ever wanted to play for the Broncos, had given them the best years of his life only to be shafted. If they had a less known coach, he could have maybe undermined him and used his influence at the club to get them sacked so he could look after himself, but did not work out that way for him

True, but the big thing you over look is, Farah is contracted till the end of 2017, Parker is off contract he is not being pushed out while under contract, Farah is on a back ended contract signed to help the club keep other players that would have left otherwise.

 

[stevetiger]

The difference in treatment between Robbie and Corey Parker is astounding.

Corey is being treated with dignity and respect.
Robbie is being treated like a cancer.

I understand and respect Taylor's courage, but there are better ways that he can do this.

Bit lost on this one. Corey wanted another year or 2 and was told he was not going to get it so retired with dignity. He could have come out and said how he only ever wanted to play for the Broncos, had given them the best years of his life only to be shafted. If they had a less known coach, he could have maybe undermined him and used his influence at the club to get them sacked so he could look after himself, but did not work out that way for him

I think this shows the difference between the way Robbie has been handled and the way Corey has been handled. A simple comment at the end of this season that we wouldn't be resigning Robbie in 2018 and this will be his last year was all that was required.

I don't respect Taylor for how he handled this situation and I'm at a loss why it's considered courageous.

Harvey - it's interesting how you conveniently miss the fact that Robbie is signed for next year. It doesn't fit your story.

Again I am lost. Not sure how announcing at the end of this season that he was no longer required would have helped, he would have stayed next year. We told him much the same at the end of last year, and like a fart in an elevator, he is still hanging around like a bad smell

I think you have this completely wrong and you are again conveniently missing the point. Corey's contract is over. Robbie has a year to go on his contract.

We should just tell Robbie in the off-season that he will not be resigned to another contract. Let's try and send you out with some great wins.

 

[NT_Tiger]

By your logic **Farah is a reserve grader** too.

Well, **he technically is** at the moment, the slight difference being that Ballin wasn't vice captain of an Origin team a week earlier and forced into reserve grade by a vindictive coach.
Should add - I quite like Ballin, seems very professional and a nice guy.

….and deservedly so! If he can't, or won't follow coaches instructions, back to reggies with him. The number of people baffled by the fact he gets selected to play in the Origin free for all amazes me. If he plays for the good of the team (WT) all good, otherwise..........Highly paid Reserve grader.

And you know all of this for a fact ?

My take is that JT is just making stuff up. His points are all over the place and make no sense. If I could see the logic then that is cool but I can't.

When Siro was dropped for instance you could see he just wasn't doing enough. Aloiai comes in and I think although it's close Aloiai is playing better than Siro was. I don't see that with Robbie at all. I think we've gone backwards in that position.

Of course you do. Hence all your posts, critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL. I think the relevant quote from your post is "I don't see".

 

[stevetiger]

Well, **he technically is** at the moment, the slight difference being that Ballin wasn't vice captain of an Origin team a week earlier and forced into reserve grade by a vindictive coach.
Should add - I quite like Ballin, seems very professional and a nice guy.

….and deservedly so! If he can't, or won't follow coaches instructions, back to reggies with him. The number of people baffled by the fact he gets selected to play in the Origin free for all amazes me. If he plays for the good of the team (WT) all good, otherwise..........Highly paid Reserve grader.

And you know all of this for a fact ?

My take is that JT is just making stuff up. His points are all over the place and make no sense. If I could see the logic then that is cool but I can't.

When Siro was dropped for instance you could see he just wasn't doing enough. Aloiai comes in and I think although it's close Aloiai is playing better than Siro was. I don't see that with Robbie at all. I think we've gone backwards in that position.

Of course you do. Hence all your posts, critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL. I think the relevant quote from your post is "I don't see".

You think that Taylor is the sole reason behind Moses and Brooks recent good form ? Do you seriously think that ?

Is Tedesco playing well the result of JT ? What about Robbie ? If we lose games is JT the only reason behind that ?

If we are sticking on topic what has caused Robbie to somehow now be a reserve grader whereas a couple of weeks ago he went well at SOO level. Is his poor form all to do with Taylor ? Is Laurie Daley so much better a coach than JT ?

 

[NT_Tiger]

Team performance vs individual performance full stop. Get it or not. Otherwise never mind.

 

[clokan]

critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL.

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

 

[clokan]

critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL.

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

 

[Regan]

If Robbie did not agree to back end his contract and was on 750K next year he would still be gone if Robbie was on 650K he would still be gone everyone is talking about how big his contract is but when the Tigers want to pay 650K to get rid of him there is a problem.
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016

All Robbie problems

 

[NT_Tiger]

critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL.

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

Whatever you say! I seem to recall not very long ago on this forum, members slagging both Moses and Brooks. Polling to see which should be kept and which gotten rid of. Now it appears it was a fait accompli that they would progress to become leaders. 20/20 hindsight?

 

[southerntiger]

critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL.

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

Whatever you say! I seem to recall not very long ago on this forum, members slagging both Moses and Brooks. Polling to see which should be kept and which gotten rid of. Now it appears it was a fait accompli that they would progress to become leaders. 20/20 hindsight?

Yep interesting how short memories are here. Moses and Brooks come into grade and show their brilliant talent but it soon becomes clear that they have the flaws of youth. Erratic, inconsistent and a propensity for the championship play every set. Taylor makes it clear from the beginning he wants them to favour consistency and structure over the flair. They don't like it, initially resist but start playing to it. Taylor looses the reins (as he always said he would) and the young guys start to dominate and control like veterans.

But yeh Taylor did nothing.

 

[southerntiger]

A good point of comparison is the development of Marshall.

The freak did the amazing things in '05 but he was still rocks and diamonds for many years. He wasn't until '09 that Marshall learned to control the team and manage a game. 6 years after his debut.

In comparison, Brooks and Moses have made the same journey in 18 months (for Moses) and 24 months (for Brooks). Why? Of course different players but a major reason is that Taylor forced them to develop that side of their game. Sheens, by contrast, never sought to curb Benji's instincts.

Which approach is better? Sheens probably for the excitement but I suspect Taylor's approach will produce better long term success.

 

[cktiger]

critical of a coach that has successfully mentored two young halves to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the NRL.

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

Whatever you say! I seem to recall not very long ago on this forum, members slagging both Moses and Brooks. Polling to see which should be kept and which gotten rid of. Now it appears it was a fait accompli that they would progress to become leaders. 20/20 hindsight?

Yep interesting how short memories are here. Moses and Brooks come into grade and show their brilliant talent but it soon becomes clear that they have the flaws of youth. Erratic, inconsistent and a propensity for the championship play every set. Taylor makes it clear from the beginning he wants them to favour consistency and structure over the flair. They don't like it, initially resist but start playing to it. Taylor looses the reins (as he always said he would) and the young guys start to dominate and control like veterans.

But yeh Taylor did nothing.

You may recall the players asked Taylor to loosen the reins.

 

[southerntiger]

Do you actually believe that? Blind Freddy could have "successfully mentored" Moses and Brooks

Whatever you say! I seem to recall not very long ago on this forum, members slagging both Moses and Brooks. Polling to see which should be kept and which gotten rid of. Now it appears it was a fait accompli that they would progress to become leaders. 20/20 hindsight?

Yep interesting how short memories are here. Moses and Brooks come into grade and show their brilliant talent but it soon becomes clear that they have the flaws of youth. Erratic, inconsistent and a propensity for the championship play every set. Taylor makes it clear from the beginning he wants them to favour consistency and structure over the flair. They don't like it, initially resist but start playing to it. Taylor looses the reins (as he always said he would) and the young guys start to dominate and control like veterans.

But yeh Taylor did nothing.

You may recall the players asked Taylor to loosen the reins.

Yes I do. I also recall Taylor saying at the very start of last season that this would eventually happen but that he wanted them to walk before they ran. The player push was overstated. If anything, it only moved that step forward.

 

[Eddie]

A good point of comparison is the development of Marshall.

The freak did the amazing things in '05 but he was still rocks and diamonds for many years. He wasn't until '09 that Marshall learned to control the team and manage a game. 6 years after his debut.

In comparison, Brooks and Moses have made the same journey in 18 months (for Moses) and 24 months (for Brooks). Why? Of course different players but a major reason is that Taylor forced them to develop that side of their game. Sheens, by contrast, never sought to curb Benji's instincts.

Which approach is better? Sheens probably for the excitement but I suspect Taylor's approach will produce better long term success.

Sheens won 3 comps. With us he had the Top 4 3 times and a 1 comp.

Do you realise how weird it sounds comparing JT favourably to Tim Sheens.

 

[ricksen]

A good point of comparison is the development of Marshall.

The freak did the amazing things in '05 but he was still rocks and diamonds for many years. He wasn't until '09 that Marshall learned to control the team and manage a game. 6 years after his debut.

In comparison, Brooks and Moses have made the same journey in 18 months (for Moses) and 24 months (for Brooks). Why? Of course different players but a major reason is that Taylor forced them to develop that side of their game. Sheens, by contrast, never sought to curb Benji's instincts.

Which approach is better? Sheens probably for the excitement but I suspect Taylor's approach will produce better long term success.

I get your point on Broses - but the Benji comparison is a poor one.
He won a comp in his first full season, and spent the next few years getting injured for the most part. It's no surprise that his form turned in 2009 when he played close to a full season, and then in 10/11 when he was fully fit and close to the best player in the world.
Of course there was a maturing process involved as well, but the guy was a freak talent from the off and his ascent not overly similar to what we've seen from Brooks or Moses.

 

[Eddie]

Sheens got the best out of Marshall.

He was a free wheeler. Always was.

It won us acomp at the end of the day.