Vlandys clutching at straws or dillusional?

[TigerTownSFS]

It’s a massive deal in junior rugby. Rugby doesnt begin to tackle until U8s and then there is a lot of effort to train good tackle techniques. League kids are playing tackle from u6s

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

It’s not the kids who are playing and then taken out it’s the kids who never play to begin with. I know of a lot of families who would never let their children play rugby league due to it being too rough and head knocks are part of that.

 

[Telltails]

A lot of the big guys are really going to struggle in defence if they have to dip and go low into a tackle and the effectiveness of wrapping up the ball in a tackle will diminish. Opens the opportunity for more attacking play and possible blow out scores.

 

[brian]

It’s not the kids who are playing and then taken out it’s the kids who never play to begin with. I know of a lot of families who would never let their children play rugby league due to it being too rough and head knocks are part of that.

And that's fine, there are always the cotton wool parents. The same parents who don't allow their kids to climb trees .

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

Participation of kids is part of it no doubt, but this is all about future litigation by players. It will send the game broke.
NRL have to take a stand on head and neck contact now. The game is still tough. Even without the punching, stiff arms and spear tackles. Just part of the evolution of becoming professional.

 

[cochise]

Participation of kids is part of it no doubt, but this is all about future litigation by players. It will send the game broke.
NRL have to take a stand on head and neck contact now. The game is still tough. Even without the punching, stiff arms and spear tackles. Just part of the evolution of becoming professional.

How do sports like boxing and UFC survive? The goal of those sports is to inflict brain damage.

 

[nuggetron]

It’s not the kids who are playing and then taken out it’s the kids who never play to begin with. I know of a lot of families who would never let their children play rugby league due to it being too rough and head knocks are part of that.

And that's fine, there are always the cotton wool parents. The same parents who don't allow their kids to climb trees .

bit of a difference between falling out of a tree once and breaking a bone or getting knocked out and playing junior footy without proper tackle technique and getting continual head knocks
my 2 year old runs around, eats dirt etc without me or my wife stopping him, but i have no interest in signing him up to junior nrl and when the time comes to it he probably will play soccer due to the OPs points

 

[brian]

Participation of kids is part of it no doubt, but this is all about future litigation by players. It will send the game broke.
NRL have to take a stand on head and neck contact now. The game is still tough. Even without the punching, stiff arms and spear tackles. Just part of the evolution of becoming professional.

How do sports like boxing and UFC survive? The goal of those sports is to inflict brain damage.

Lmfao!
I'd say it's more about insurance companies current risk assessments and the ability/inability to gain insurance for players now and the future. Maybe the fake news didn't report this part of the process. Insurance companies surprise surprise are in the business of taking ur money not handing it back. Ongoing risk assessments in every industry allow these insurance to do just that.
Future litigation ask Ian Roberts.

 

[Spartan117]

How do sports like boxing and UFC survive? The goal of those sports is to inflict brain damage.

Most Real combat sports are taken on by teenagers or adults who make the decision for themselves as apposed to parents.

 

[cochise]

How do sports like boxing and UFC survive? The goal of those sports is to inflict brain damage.

Most Real combat sports are taken on by teenagers or adults who make the decision for themselves as apposed to parents.

My response was in regard to future litigation.

 

[Spartan117]

The Game has cried out for a Strong leader for years who has the strength to make decisions.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

15_20 year ago my son's played for Quakers Hill junior league.
As a parent often I volunteered groundwork bbq sideline duties etc.
The parents back then were concerned about the up to 50 kg difference between the same age kids and the injuries from the disproportionate weights.
The other concern was the parents behaviour at the grounds, swearing encouraging violence and parents fighting on the sidelines.
Parents have been taking their kids away not one I spoke with had ever mentioned head knocks.
At the same time I also volunteered at Toongabbie demons soccer club. Soccer had already implemented strict behavioural guidelines for players coaches parents and fans. Last week a brutal gang attack on a father in Brisbane on the footy field, last year stabbing at wenty leagues Ringrose . There are dozens more unreported by media .
There is also the fact a soccer player can make in a season more than the league's entire salary cap.
Fantastic initiative to stamp out the head knocks concussion .
But don't just make up ur own bs facts and figures.
Anyone know anyone that has removed a child or opted for soccer due to vlandys claims ?

Soccer can be just as bad. My youngest plays goalkeeper in a high grade. He fielded a standard shot kneeling down with his body behind the ball. The striker deliberately collided with him using his elbow to the forehead in front of parents from both teams. Our parents naturally were upset and some of theirs, especially mothers, were worried about repercussions. Most parents from the opposing team believed it funny until the striker and my son, who had been concussed, collided in a fair contest for the ball. We didn't know this until after the game. My son is made for contact and hit this kid with a 150 watt tackle. He was down writhing on the ground and my son demonstrated fair play by asking the referee to stop the game.

 

[Spartan117]

My response was in regard to future litigation.

You're right there, especially

 

[voice_of_reason]

My response was in regard to future litigation.

They'll get crushed - it's only a matter of time. Litigation (or fear of) will kill a lot of sports. You'd have to think participants will need to sign waivers but they'll probably be as meaningful as a current NRL contract.

There'd be an awful lot of ex-NRL players already brain damaged (although they might not know it yet) and it can't be allowed to continue. I'm genuinely torn between loving the game and wanting them to be protected.

 

[brian]

My response was in regard to future litigation.

You're right there, especially

My original question does anyone know of parents who have removed children from footy re vlandys claims. Lol
We got off track a bit , and I appreciate all comments and opinions. I guess nobody knows any of these parents vlandys is so called talking about.

 

[hobbo1]

Sign a waiver
Bring back the biff

 

[brian]

It’s not the kids who are playing and then taken out it’s the kids who never play to begin with. I know of a lot of families who would never let their children play rugby league due to it being too rough and head knocks are part of that.

And that's fine, there are always the cotton wool parents. The same parents who don't allow their kids to climb trees .

bit of a difference between falling out of a tree once and breaking a bone or getting knocked out and playing junior footy without proper tackle technique and getting continual head knocks
my 2 year old runs around, eats dirt etc without me or my wife stopping him, but i have no interest in signing him up to junior nrl and when the time comes to it he probably will play soccer due to the OPs points

Soccer is a fantastic sport for children. My tongue in cheek response was not meant to upset but again my original question anyone know any parents who removed kids from footy. Not people who will never allow kids to play footy I know hundreds of parents who won't allow it. And I understand and respect that. I played footy on Sundays soccer on Saturdays my whole childhood. 40 years ago u5's we were taught correct tackling technique, head to the side around the hips with the arms then slide arms down the legs closing tighter to stop the player . I believe they still teach it the same way. Coaches in top grade who manipulate rules create loopholes to win should be removed from the game.
Nothing wrong with eating dirt leaves or worms either. !

 

[happy_tiger]

15_20 year ago my son's played for Quakers Hill junior league.
As a parent often I volunteered groundwork bbq sideline duties etc.
The parents back then were concerned about the up to 50 kg difference between the same age kids and the injuries from the disproportionate weights.
The other concern was the parents behaviour at the grounds, swearing encouraging violence and parents fighting on the sidelines.
Parents have been taking their kids away not one I spoke with had ever mentioned head knocks.
At the same time I also volunteered at Toongabbie demons soccer club. Soccer had already implemented strict behavioural guidelines for players coaches parents and fans. Last week a brutal gang attack on a father in Brisbane on the footy field, last year stabbing at wenty leagues Ringrose . There are dozens more unreported by media .
There is also the fact a soccer player can make in a season more than the league's entire salary cap.
Fantastic initiative to stamp out the head knocks concussion .
But don't just make up ur own bs facts and figures.
Anyone know anyone that has removed a child or opted for soccer due to vlandys claims ?

A brilliant summary of the "genuine" issues throughout rugby league and why it may deter parents. Yes, Vlandys is delusional ....... and dictatorial, blinkered, egomaniacal, autocratic, stubborn, thugish and bullying, with unfettered power to turn a thought bubble into rule changes. He is better suited to leading the CCP than the NRL.

Peter Vlandys, will be remembered as the great destroyer of rugby league as we knew it.

He is right though

Basically there is nothing stopping footballers from probably the last 2 generations of footballers (last 15 years ) of suing the game for not taking enough responsibility for the protection of players from concussions and CTE

If that was continue the game would destroyed financially ...we are a tiny market ...nothing even remotely like the NFL

Does everyone get that

They will make changes ..I like the thoughts of Robinson with 3 levels

But the game had to take a powerful stance and will continue to have to take a powerful stance on head high tackles