Watene-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers

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@Masterton said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016242) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016075) said:
Adding to that, the coach who had your team purring at 4th spot has been sent to centrelink and the CEO hires his mate who is also the halfback’s dad. Your team has a horror start to the year and you’re hovering around 15th or 16th spot 11 rounds in. No wonder he’s disenfranchised.

It seems to me that Penrith are trying to "control the narrative" by saying he got a big head being captain of NZ. Which is the opposite of what most clubs say about having their players play rep.

An awful lot has gone wrong at Penrith in the last 6 months, and very little of it has anything to with Dallin.


Good post, i agree
 
@Matto said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016273) said:
@jadtiger I think all our backline players are equal if not better than DWZ so let's not throw ourselves at him just yet


This is gold. The lad can play he would be our best outside back by a mile. Form is temporary class is permanent.
 
@TYGA said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016285) said:
@Matto said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016273) said:
@jadtiger I think all our backline players are equal if not better than DWZ so let's not throw ourselves at him just yet


This is gold. The lad can play he would be our best outside back by a mile. Form is temporary class is permanent.

His defensive reads against us were worse than anything Nofa has served up in the last 5 years
 
@Harvey said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016287) said:
@TYGA said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016285) said:
@Matto said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016273) said:
@jadtiger I think all our backline players are equal if not better than DWZ so let's not throw ourselves at him just yet


This is gold. The lad can play he would be our best outside back by a mile. Form is temporary class is permanent.

His defensive reads against us were worse than anything Nofa has served up in the last 5 years

what better way to get out of your contract......
 
@Harvey said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016287) said:
@TYGA said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016285) said:
@Matto said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016273) said:
@jadtiger I think all our backline players are equal if not better than DWZ so let's not throw ourselves at him just yet


This is gold. The lad can play he would be our best outside back by a mile. Form is temporary class is permanent.

His defensive reads against us were worse than anything Nofa has served up in the last 5 years


That’s a mighty big call. Difference is he is having a bad first few games to a season Nofa has been doing it for years.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016185) said:
@TIGER said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016183) said:
Well at least we've finally got a coach who can see that Packer and ET are has beens that should never see the NRL again.

Hopefully I never have to see either of them carry the ball for 27m again.

Matulino used to under the same category but he has improved alot under Madge.

Matulinos defence v south's was ordinary at times

He definitely had one bad day miss that led to a try may have had another
 
@2041 said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016189) said:
@Balmain_Boy said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016187) said:
If Mbye is on 700k, Nof on 420k, Jennings on 400k, you'd have to think DWZ would get at least 500k. Wouldn't pay more than that for him though. Also a maximum of a 3 year deal. None of this 4-5 year rubbish. He's had some injury issues, 2-3 years is fine!

Maybe if we offered Packer+Nof for DWZ i'd be happy. That's a million out of our cap for a decent player hopefully on 500k and 500k to spend on others. Surely Ivan isn't that stupid though?

Yeah sadly that's not how it works - you can't just give other teams all your lousy contracts in return for their good ones. The possible up side is that if Penrith really think they can't get any more value out of DWZ and therefore he's nothing other than 600k of dead money, they might be willing to pay some freight either by taking a crap contract off us or by eating some of DWZ's money. We can't just say "here's some players, let's swap".

Correct. Players in question have to want to leave as well.
 
@Harvey said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016287) said:
@TYGA said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016285) said:
@Matto said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016273) said:
@jadtiger I think all our backline players are equal if not better than DWZ so let's not throw ourselves at him just yet


This is gold. The lad can play he would be our best outside back by a mile. Form is temporary class is permanent.

His defensive reads against us were worse than anything Nofa has served up in the last 5 years

He was very ordinary that night, he had plenty of mates as well though.
 
@2041 said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016189) said:
@Balmain_Boy said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016187) said:
If Mbye is on 700k, Nof on 420k, Jennings on 400k, you'd have to think DWZ would get at least 500k. Wouldn't pay more than that for him though. Also a maximum of a 3 year deal. None of this 4-5 year rubbish. He's had some injury issues, 2-3 years is fine!

Maybe if we offered Packer+Nof for DWZ i'd be happy. That's a million out of our cap for a decent player hopefully on 500k and 500k to spend on others. Surely Ivan isn't that stupid though?

Yeah sadly that's not how it works - you can't just give other teams all your lousy contracts in return for their good ones. The possible up side is that if Penrith really think they can't get any more value out of DWZ and therefore he's nothing other than 600k of dead money, they might be willing to pay some freight either by taking a crap contract off us or by eating some of DWZ's money. We can't just say "here's some players, let's swap".

Yes you can...... if you have a TRADE RAGE button some think we have..
 
@2041 said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016189) said:
@Balmain_Boy said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016187) said:
If Mbye is on 700k, Nof on 420k, Jennings on 400k, you'd have to think DWZ would get at least 500k. Wouldn't pay more than that for him though. Also a maximum of a 3 year deal. None of this 4-5 year rubbish. He's had some injury issues, 2-3 years is fine!

Maybe if we offered Packer+Nof for DWZ i'd be happy. That's a million out of our cap for a decent player hopefully on 500k and 500k to spend on others. Surely Ivan isn't that stupid though?

Yeah sadly that's not how it works - you can't just give other teams all your lousy contracts in return for their good ones. The possible up side is that if Penrith really think they can't get any more value out of DWZ and therefore he's nothing other than 600k of dead money, they might be willing to pay some freight either by taking a crap contract off us or by eating some of DWZ's money. We can't just say "here's some players, let's swap".

But DWZ is on a lousy contract over there. He's reportedly on 750-800k which is crazy. I'd offer him a 3 year $1.5 million deal with a fen bonuses thrown in regarding tries etc. They can top up the next 1.5 years of his contract to make up the difference between his contract and Packer's so it's effectively a clean swap.

If they just happen to want ET then they can have him, with nothing in return for us except cap space and a roster spot.

I think both ET and Packer are happy to go.
 
@Balmain_Boy Maybe except the reported 700-800K for DWZ is per year.according to Foxsports not the term of his contract....so not so lousy
 
Judging by the comments on Facebook alot of the supporters will be shattered if the DWZ and Packer swap goes though.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016399) said:
Judging by the comments on Facebook alot of the supporters will be shattered if the DWZ and Packer swap goes though.

Honestly if Packer was deserving of first grade, I'm sure the coach would have him playing first grade. And for a guy on that sort of money to be in Reserves, he should be embarrassed.

Swap makes sense, getting rid of Packer makes sense, getting rid of Packer and getting a decent player, how does that not make sense.

Some people just complain for the sake of it.
 
@TigerTiger said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016403) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016399) said:
Judging by the comments on Facebook alot of the supporters will be shattered if the DWZ and Packer swap goes though.

Honestly if Packer was deserving of first grade, I'm sure the coach would have him playing first grade. And for a guy on that sort of money to be in Reserves, he should be embarrassed.

Swap makes sense, getting rid of Packer makes sense, getting rid of Packer and getting a decent player, how does that not make sense.

Some people just complain for the sake of it.

Packer has gone missing in action more than Chuck Norris and that's saying something.
 
I'm finding it hard to think of a reason we won't be the front runners for his services. We have his International coach and he wouldn't have to pack up and move to another state.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Watene\-Zelezniak set to split with Panthers](/post/1016409) said:
I'm finding it hard to think of a reason we won't be the front runners for his services. We have his International coach and he wouldn't have to pack up and move to another state.

One would hope so but stranger things have happened. Bulldogs might be in with a shot also. Fingers crossed 🤞
 
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