We cant keep carrying ET
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Spud_Murphy
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Our backrow has been our achilles heel since Ellis left. Recruitment for next season has had to be concentrated on the front row because of the departures of Woods & Ava, but we are going to have to make a play for another strong running second rower besides McQueen very soon, otherwise it will be just be more of the same next year.
I agree with the OP re Taylor - love the guy's commitment and passion, but he is really just a workhorse in the mould of Alan Tongue, whereas most of the lock forwards he listed above are genuine game-breakers.
I agree with the OP re Taylor - love the guy's commitment and passion, but he is really just a workhorse in the mould of Alan Tongue, whereas most of the lock forwards he listed above are genuine game-breakers.
sheer64
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:roll Sharon and Tanya in netball would be better options,
Club_Sandwich
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Respect your opinion but I disagree. ET is one of our best. It's hard for him to do much behind a limp forward pack offering nothing.
I have a better thread title…we can't afford Elijah Taylor to keep carrying the team...
momo_amp_medo
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He is doing so much covering defence for his inept pack …. so it's no wonder his attack is lacking.
I believe that you will find that there is a great improvement in both ET and Lawrence next year with the introduction of a new pack and Reynolds to direct them.
I believe that you will find that there is a great improvement in both ET and Lawrence next year with the introduction of a new pack and Reynolds to direct them.
fergiefurr
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I think carrying him is pretty harsh however to some extent I agree. I'd love to go back to a time where the 13 is guy who makes 40+ tackles and ball plays a bit but sadly that no longer exists. Whilst I love ET and think he brings something to the team we simply can't afford a 13 who doesn't contribute hit ups. A much better balance for the team would be
8\. Woods
10\. Ava
11\. ET
13\. Sue
With 2 props on the bench and ET playing 80 mins on the right edge. Using ET as a wade graham type player who can also ball play would be perfect.
8\. Woods
10\. Ava
11\. ET
13\. Sue
With 2 props on the bench and ET playing 80 mins on the right edge. Using ET as a wade graham type player who can also ball play would be perfect.
It's a fair point tbh. We need his defensive workrate in the 17, especially as the rest of the pack is so poor defensively.
He's also one of the only guys that can actually slow down the play the ball.
Whether he plays 13 or on an edge, he needs to play big mins for said reasons.
But him being a second #6 or whatever JT had him doing was an issue - he can make hard runs and make good metres when needed, but he's too worn out from tackling everything that moves as no one else will.
He's also one of the only guys that can actually slow down the play the ball.
Whether he plays 13 or on an edge, he needs to play big mins for said reasons.
But him being a second #6 or whatever JT had him doing was an issue - he can make hard runs and make good metres when needed, but he's too worn out from tackling everything that moves as no one else will.
Black_n_White
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I can see exactly where you are coming from, but with only Mat and Pack as our only real legitimate props, i think we are short one if not two real pigs.
I think we forget keeping up with the jonses, and play Mcqueen, Sue and Aloia as rotation giving Taylor a rest… Could even trade in Lawrence and swap Sue to the pigs, as Chris is honestly solid working the ruck with speed..... thats alot of thump for most packs to deal with, and frees up Taylor to link with Reynolds.
I honestly, in my heart of hearts, know Josh will entirely change our opinions and style as a 6\. I think many are stuck on the soft D 6 of benji and Moses, and arent calculating for his inclusion thinking forward.
Can't agree, ET is a key man if we are to succeed. Give him a pack to work with and he will shine.
I do not recall a game in recent times where we have rolled up the field on the back of our pack.
We have our wingers and centres taking the first two to three hit ups and then our pack will take 1 or 2 and we throw up the midfield bomb.
Our problem is, Grant, Sue, Ava and the back row.
I do not recall a game in recent times where we have rolled up the field on the back of our pack.
We have our wingers and centres taking the first two to three hit ups and then our pack will take 1 or 2 and we throw up the midfield bomb.
Our problem is, Grant, Sue, Ava and the back row.
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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Can't blame ET it's the balance of the backrow that is the problem. We have no one with any punch to take some heat off the props. The concern is we haven't signed anyone to change it for next year. We need to start giving some young guys a taste of the top grade to start preparing them.
goldcoast_tiger
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There's no one problem in the team . There's a lot of them. And apart from Packer amd maybe Renolds( if he can be controlled) I agree with King Sirro that there are questions over the type of player we are chasing ( if the reports are even partly correct) Picu , LoLo etc
I think that ET has been great for us. But KS stats show a very big downside to his game. The other problem we have has been shown clearly in the last couple of weeks. Unless Tedesco is going well, we don't have anyone who can consistently make line breaks or get over the line.
Nofa is maybe the only the other one likely,
king_sirro
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True
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His role in our team is not to be a taumololo and pump the ball forward. His role in attack is to be a link to the halves and get the halves wider in attack. In defense he is our rock. He is doing his role very well. Our go forward is lacking due to inept forward that go sideways and backwards. For the life of me how edwards and lovett keep getting selected is bewildering. Time to blood marsters, felise and tatola.
king_sirro
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I think this is a good post among many good posts in this thread. Some agree with me, some dont and some see both sides. I can see both sides too. I would certainly like to see how he looks with a more aggressive and bigger pack.
