"We need to cheat"

[Tigerspirit]

The quicker we get rid of 'gun selector' Bob Fulton the better. Some of those selections over the past 10 years have been ludicrous. Why is he a protected species?

Queensland are a good side, but not 9 out of 10 series better than NSW.

I disagree. Inglis, Thurston, Cronk, smith are way better than any of the 13 players in NSW currently or elsewhere. Thurston is the best half the game has ever seen. Compare that spine to Dugan, Pearce, hodkinson and the myth. It's a no contest.

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Disagree - Thurston is brilliant but imo not the best half the game has ever seen.

Disagree as well, Thurston could claim to be a future immortal not just one of the best halves.

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[Fade_To_Black]

I did hey. I thought it was crazy that Tomato face published it.

If it had been Mal who said it, the DT would have had it on the back and front page calling for him to be thrown out of the game. I was stunned at how it was just casually mentioned like it was no big deal. I couldn't believe it.

Because it is no big deal….someone saying 'we need to cheat'....holy Christ call the cops!

 

[stryker]

Queensland are a good side, but not 9 out of 10 series better than NSW.

Disagree Swordy. One broken arm prevented the full 10.
The squads the Maroons have put out over the past decade would win an international tri series most times during that period.
Go back to the beginning of the run, 2006, you'll find 8 current players in the lineup (Hodgo, GI, JT, Smith, Sammy, Scotty, Slater and Nate). These guys have been mainstays when available the whole time. Add to these names Lockyer, Price, Petro, Hunt, Folau, Tate, Cronk, Bowen, Croker, Boyd, Parker….list goes on and on.

Quite simply we have been blessed to witness such a brilliant ensemble of players ply their trade. NSW have put some strong teams out in opposition but they have been roundly outplayed.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I did hey. I thought it was crazy that Tomato face published it.

If it had been Mal who said it, the DT would have had it on the back and front page calling for him to be thrown out of the game. I was stunned at how it was just casually mentioned like it was no big deal. I couldn't believe it.

Because it is no big deal….someone saying 'we need to cheat'....holy Christ call the cops!

If it's no big deal why do you hate the Storm?

 

[Swordy]

Queensland are a good side, but not 9 out of 10 series better than NSW.

Disagree Swordy. One broken arm prevented the full 10.
The squads the Maroons have put out over the past decade would win an international tri series most times during that period.
Go back to the beginning of the run, 2006, you'll find 8 current players in the lineup (Hodgo, GI, JT, Smith, Sammy, Scotty, Slater and Nate). These guys have been mainstays when available the whole time. Add to these names Lockyer, Price, Petro, Hunt, Folau, Tate, Cronk, Bowen, Croker, Boyd, Parker….list goes on and on.

Quite simply we have been blessed to witness such a brilliant ensemble of players ply their trade. NSW have put some strong teams out in opposition but they have been roundly outplayed.

I will clarify that by saying ' better than the NSW team that was selected? Definitely.

Better than the best team that could have been selected over those years. I believe it should have been more 50-50 or even 60 -40 to QLD, not 90-10.

I certainly agree JT, Smith, Cronk etc are fantastic players and it hurts me to say that. But by NSW constantly picking players that are either out of form in club footy or have been given enough chances in previous year…I think that makes QLD look better than they really are.

Hopoate on the wing in the last few years has never succeeded. Constantly picking Bird and Gallen who get in the way of the team continues to be a mistake. We have seen flashes of Michael Jennings and what he and Morris can do when they get early ball. But alas, never happens. Tamou has played one good half of footy in his origin career, and keeps getting picked. Other stupid selections like Jamie Buhrer a few years back Really? The constant selections of Ennis a few years back, and then selecting him again as Farah's replacement when he is well past his best (which wasn't that good anyway).

Who were our X factor players that could make something from nothing? You guessed it. ZERO. We constantly picked defensive teams and think we can keep Qld at bay.

Now I'm not saying I would have picked Blake Austin (but I could have been talked into it). He was clearly the form player in the NRL at the end of last year and into this year. Playing in a team relatively in form. Doesn't even get a look on the bench. Could have sparked something from nothing - the same as JT, Slater etc. Oh No. Instead we pick Hodkinson who is badly out of form in a team that has been hot and cold.

Now I'm not as down on Pearce as many others, but seriously, He has played in what...6 or 7 LOSING series and has offered nothing. So, we pick him again. Only an idiot does the same thing and expects different results.

What about a Jack Wighton, Frizell, Joel Thompson, ...

Seriously, we have trotted out the same old battered and beaten heads scattered with the boys club selections from Fulton and we expect to win something. FAIL> It wasn't that long ago that we were persisting with Kurt Gidley and guys of those ilk that are not up to it. Who can ever forget Keith Galloway's 9 minutes of fame? Jamal Idris, Another FAIL. What about another classic selection over and over again.....Tony Williams. Gee whiz, he outdoes Dane Carlaw in the 'looks like tarzan and plays like Jane' stakes... but lets repeatedly pick him just to make sure he is useless.

I will go to my grave with the knowledge that NSW have not picked their best side in the last 10 years. Clearly a boys club and not showing any signs of changing with Daley, Parish, Fulton and others at the helm.

I now have a headache and want to break something....

 

[stryker]

Lol of course you are right….but we still would have flogged your best side. They would have put 30 on NZ Thursday night.

As for the rest of the decade...8-2 at worst lol.

 

[Tigersman]

Lol of course you are right….but we still would have flogged your best side. They would have put 30 on NZ Thursday night.

As for the rest of the decade...8-2 at worst lol.

30 ON NZ? :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll Pffft keep dreaming… I reckon either the Maroons would of won by 1-6 or Nz would put on another hiding.

 

[stryker]

Now who's dreaming?

 

[happy_tiger]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

 

[Fade_To_Black]

I did hey. I thought it was crazy that Tomato face published it.

If it had been Mal who said it, the DT would have had it on the back and front page calling for him to be thrown out of the game. I was stunned at how it was just casually mentioned like it was no big deal. I couldn't believe it.

Because it is no big deal….someone saying 'we need to cheat'....holy Christ call the cops!

If it's no big deal why do you hate the Storm?

If you can't tell the difference between a coach saying ' we need to cheat' when referring to the ruck area during a game and an organisation systematically cheating the game's salary cap with 2 sets of books etc then I can't help you. You honestly can't tell the difference?? FMD.

 

[Swordy]

Beat NZ? Qld has dominated the Australian Team selections in the last 3 to 4 years as a result of their origin dominance, and probably rightly so based on the options.

Check out Australia's record in that time….slowly declining.

Further proof that QLD have been made to look 'invincible' by NSW....which they are not.

 

[fergiefurr]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

Ahh but he didn't. That's as good as saying if Nsw didn't pick such crap teams every year they'd win.

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[Tiger_Watto]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

Ahh but he didn't. That's as good as saying if Nsw didn't pick such crap teams every year they'd win.

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Agreed… NSW pick crap TEAMS.

They forget about the 'Team' aspect and continually pick the best players to combat Qld. It works 1-2 games, but get found out in the end when 2-3 of there elite players have poor games. No work gets done!

Mike McLean, Craig Greenhill, Gary Larson, Dallas Johnstone, Michael Croker, Steve McQueen & Jacob Lillyman type players are never on NSW Radar.

Josh Jackson is one of these and now everyone wants him dropped?!

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

Just the same as ' Aunty with penis = Uncle'.

 

[happy_tiger]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

Just the same as ' Aunty with penis = Uncle'.

In your case one and the same I'd guess

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Cronk plays Game 2 last series and its 10 straight to Qld

Just the same as ' Aunty with penis = Uncle'.

In your case one and the same I'd guess

Or burger with fries in your case. Do you want a drink with that two-head? Better get back to work eh.

 

[Tigermama]

Queensland are a good side, but not 9 out of 10 series better than NSW.

Disagree Swordy. One broken arm prevented the full 10.
The squads the Maroons have put out over the past decade would win an international tri series most times during that period.
Go back to the beginning of the run, 2006, you'll find 8 current players in the lineup (Hodgo, GI, JT, Smith, Sammy, Scotty, Slater and Nate). These guys have been mainstays when available the whole time. Add to these names Lockyer, Price, Petro, Hunt, Folau, Tate, Cronk, Bowen, Croker, Boyd, Parker….list goes on and on.

Quite simply we have been blessed to witness such a brilliant ensemble of players ply their trade. NSW have put some strong teams out in opposition but they have been roundly outplayed.

I will clarify that by saying ' better than the NSW team that was selected? Definitely.

Better than the best team that could have been selected over those years. I believe it should have been more 50-50 or even 60 -40 to QLD, not 90-10.

I certainly agree JT, Smith, Cronk etc are fantastic players and it hurts me to say that. But by NSW constantly picking players that are either out of form in club footy or have been given enough chances in previous year…I think that makes QLD look better than they really are.

Hopoate on the wing in the last few years has never succeeded. Constantly picking Bird and Gallen who get in the way of the team continues to be a mistake. We have seen flashes of Michael Jennings and what he and Morris can do when they get early ball. But alas, never happens. Tamou has played one good half of footy in his origin career, and keeps getting picked. Other stupid selections like Jamie Buhrer a few years back Really? The constant selections of Ennis a few years back, and then selecting him again as Farah's replacement when he is well past his best (which wasn't that good anyway).

Who were our X factor players that could make something from nothing? You guessed it. ZERO. We constantly picked defensive teams and think we can keep Qld at bay.

Now I'm not saying I would have picked Blake Austin (but I could have been talked into it). He was clearly the form player in the NRL at the end of last year and into this year. Playing in a team relatively in form. Doesn't even get a look on the bench. Could have sparked something from nothing - the same as JT, Slater etc. Oh No. Instead we pick Hodkinson who is badly out of form in a team that has been hot and cold.

Now I'm not as down on Pearce as many others, but seriously, He has played in what...6 or 7 LOSING series and has offered nothing. So, we pick him again. Only an idiot does the same thing and expects different results.

What about a Jack Wighton, Frizell, Joel Thompson, ...

Seriously, we have trotted out the same old battered and beaten heads scattered with the boys club selections from Fulton and we expect to win something. FAILIt wasn't that long ago that we were persisting with Kurt Gidley and guys of those ilk that are not up to it. Who can ever forget Keith Galloway's 9 minutes of fame? Jamal Idris, Another FAIL. What about another classic selection over and over again.....Tony Williams. Gee whiz, he outdoes Dane Carlaw in the 'looks like tarzan and plays like Jane' stakes... but lets repeatedly pick him just to make sure he is useless.

I will go to my grave with the knowledge that NSW have not picked their best side in the last 10 years. Clearly a boys club and not showing any signs of changing with Daley, Parish, Fulton and others at the helm.

I now have a headache and want to break something....

Great post Swordy. Love it. Totally agree about the boys club. Daley needs to put his big boy pants on, grow a backbone and start making the tough decisions when it comes to selections.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Good on Daley to stick to his guns, he wasn'tgonna throw a rookie in to debut in game 3 and rightly so. The series was lost but so what, a few blokes got a good go at it that will be mainstays of the NSW team for many seasons and a couple like Hopoate, Hodkinson will never be seen in Origin again you would think. Unless NSW won the series then the team for game 3 was always on a hiding to nothing. Give it 2 or 3 years once champs likeThurston retire and the tide will turn. The caneturds got their arses flogged by 40 points many moons ago and it wasn't the end of the world

 

[Yossarian]

How ordinary was Hodkinson? Blake Green would have been better… The players are there but as Swordy suggests the selections are terrible. Will Hopoate offers little - he's not the player he was before he went on mission. Meanwhile Josh Mansour can't get a look in. If Adam Reynolds isn't in the halves next year there has to be an investigation Geoff Toovey style.

But more importantly NSW needs to match Qld for game speed early on. Some of those Qlders could have held Time Share presentations with the time they had with the ball. Zero pressure on playmakers, forwards allowed to run and run while on the opposite side our guys are under all sorts of pressure.

 

[Russell]

Queensland are a good side, but not 9 out of 10 series better than NSW.

Disagree Swordy. One broken arm prevented the full 10.
The squads the Maroons have put out over the past decade would win an international tri series most times during that period.
Go back to the beginning of the run, 2006, you'll find 8 current players in the lineup (Hodgo, GI, JT, Smith, Sammy, Scotty, Slater and Nate). These guys have been mainstays when available the whole time. Add to these names Lockyer, Price, Petro, Hunt, Folau, Tate, Cronk, Bowen, Croker, Boyd, Parker….list goes on and on.

Quite simply we have been blessed to witness such a brilliant ensemble of players ply their trade. NSW have put some strong teams out in opposition but they have been roundly outplayed.

I will clarify that by saying ' better than the NSW team that was selected? Definitely.

Better than the best team that could have been selected over those years. I believe it should have been more 50-50 or even 60 -40 to QLD, not 90-10.

I certainly agree JT, Smith, Cronk etc are fantastic players and it hurts me to say that. But by NSW constantly picking players that are either out of form in club footy or have been given enough chances in previous year…I think that makes QLD look better than they really are.

Hopoate on the wing in the last few years has never succeeded. Constantly picking Bird and Gallen who get in the way of the team continues to be a mistake. We have seen flashes of Michael Jennings and what he and Morris can do when they get early ball. But alas, never happens. Tamou has played one good half of footy in his origin career, and keeps getting picked. Other stupid selections like Jamie Buhrer a few years back Really? The constant selections of Ennis a few years back, and then selecting him again as Farah's replacement when he is well past his best (which wasn't that good anyway).

Who were our X factor players that could make something from nothing? You guessed it. ZERO. We constantly picked defensive teams and think we can keep Qld at bay.

Now I'm not saying I would have picked Blake Austin (but I could have been talked into it). He was clearly the form player in the NRL at the end of last year and into this year. Playing in a team relatively in form. Doesn't even get a look on the bench. Could have sparked something from nothing - the same as JT, Slater etc. Oh No. Instead we pick Hodkinson who is badly out of form in a team that has been hot and cold.

Now I'm not as down on Pearce as many others, but seriously, He has played in what...6 or 7 LOSING series and has offered nothing. So, we pick him again. Only an idiot does the same thing and expects different results.

What about a Jack Wighton, Frizell, Joel Thompson, ...

Seriously, we have trotted out the same old battered and beaten heads scattered with the boys club selections from Fulton and we expect to win something. FAILIt wasn't that long ago that we were persisting with Kurt Gidley and guys of those ilk that are not up to it. Who can ever forget Keith Galloway's 9 minutes of fame? Jamal Idris, Another FAIL. What about another classic selection over and over again.....Tony Williams. Gee whiz, he outdoes Dane Carlaw in the 'looks like tarzan and plays like Jane' stakes... but lets repeatedly pick him just to make sure he is useless.

I will go to my grave with the knowledge that NSW have not picked their best side in the last 10 years. Clearly a boys club and not showing any signs of changing with Daley, Parish, Fulton and others at the helm.

I now have a headache and want to break something....

Great post Swordy. Love it. Totally agree about the boys club. Daley needs to put his big boy pants on, grow a backbone and start making the tough decisions when it comes to selections.

Disagree 0 Loz needs to be first to go and then Fulton. Start again I think without misplaced loyalty.