Well done Taylor and Board

[Paris_Cobbs]

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.
Are you sure it is Farah having a negative effect on the team morale? Or are you basing that on assumption from rumours going around. If so - there is an equally strong rumour that the players fully support Robbie and have the utmost respect for him. And they are far from happy with the clubs decision.

Yes. There is abundant evidence that JT does not handle interpersonal issues well. Here it seems he has gone running to the board with tales of Robbie being impossible to work with. Last Sunday, the players looked united in support of Robbie.

Presumably, both Robbie and JT want the team to be successful, certainly there is plenty of evidence to show hat Robbie does anyway. Grown ups can work out how to resolve personal issues and get on with achieving goals. Children dob to the nearest authority figure and force them to take sides. This seems to have been what happened.

 

[boonboon]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

Are you sure it is Farah having a negative effect on the team morale? Or are you basing that on assumption from rumours going around. If so - there is an equally strong rumour that the players fully support Robbie and have the utmost respect for him. And they are far from happy with the clubs decision.

No I am not sure and neither is anyone else on here that I can guarentee either way but its my read of the most likely situation

 

[TYGA]

Who started this thread Marina Go?

 

[Russell]

When we punted Marshall people applauded and said the tough calls need to be made (since then we have gone further backwards in some respects) ….

Benji's last year was 2013 , we finished 15th on 18 competition points , our f/a was 386/687

with one round to go in 2015 , we're 14th on 20 competition points with a chance to finish 11th , our f/a is 457/530

not exactly backwards .

Ok what about the fact his team are going to make the finals and finished ahead of us in both 2014 and 2015?

And the fact that in 2013 he had a horrendous injury toll that was laughable at times the teams we had to put on the paddock.

We can pull stats your way or my way to suit each respective argument.

The fact he has got himself fit and playing decent football, well why was that not happening at Concord, was it all the players fault or are there bigger issues there?

The issue was he got fat and lazy and just took the money.

 

[Russell]

I am concerned about the direction our club is being steered in at the moment, the recent events show the Board needs to show some communication with the membership and fans about how it has control over what is going on and the subsequent direction for the club. At the moment events have caused major splits amongst supporters of the club and it would be interesting to know what effect this is having on sponsors. By the end of this season there will be few exxperienced players in first grade which is a concern for 2016\. We are broke, lacking leadership, decisions are being made and not executed in a professional manner and I am concerned that the club is being run into the ground. About the only 'good news' that has been circulated of late is a few middle of the road signings and suggestions of a new home base.

Cunno - in my opinion the Board and the coach have just taken back control of the club.

This will be the first time in years that they have actually had control.

Now we might get somewhere.

 

[stryker]

Lol love the line Robbie ran the club lol…..
2 years ago Benji was apparently the culprit.
Once Robbie goes the throng will turn on someone else. Watch your back Luke Brooks.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

 

[NT_Tiger]

When we punted Marshall people applauded and said the tough calls need to be made (since then we have gone further backwards in some respects) ….

Benji's last year was 2013 , we finished 15th on 18 competition points , our f/a was 386/687

with one round to go in 2015 , we're 14th on 20 competition points with a chance to finish 11th , our f/a is 457/530

not exactly backwards .

Ok what about the fact his team are going to make the finals and finished ahead of us in both 2014 and 2015?

And the fact that in 2013 he had a horrendous injury toll that was laughable at times the teams we had to put on the paddock.

We can pull stats your way or my way to suit each respective argument.

The fact he has got himself fit and playing decent football, well why was that not happening at Concord, was it all the players fault or are there bigger issues there?

The issue was he got fat and lazy and just took the money.

By his own admission! Since then he has realised that he really does want to keep playing football and worked on his game and his attitude. That would not have happened if he had stayed here.

 

[fibrodreaming]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

Alas GCT, the display of unity was too little, too late.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

Alas GCT, the display of unity was too little, too late.

What??, are you saying that Farah should've played his own game right from the seasons start.
Got to admit , I sort of agree with you :slight_smile:

 

[guyofthetiger]

At the moment, we are not one of the richer clubs. Full stop.

Starting with a clean slate is therefore going to be different for us in almost every regard.

To state the obvious, it isn't going to mean simply replacing top 20 players with other top 20 players.

Bellamy, Bennett etc can criticise what's happening all they like - they move in a different sphere, so it's hard to see their views as more than passing observations.

Instead of starting with a clean slate previously, we started again with a somewhat polished but still rather smudgey 'clean slate'.

If nothing else, we're truly starting afresh, and we can truly see whether this club can rise from the rubble.

Losing Robbie will be an unfortunate factor, but in any organisation in can be easy to see when someone's been in the same role too long.

And it seems to me there's a bit of that about him unfortunately, not to mention the lingering smoke over the years.

As utterly frustrating that it is, that we will be paying him to play against us.

That's the hardest pill to swallow, and I really hope there's also some economic logic to going down that path in the longer term.

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[fibrodreaming]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

Alas GCT, the display of unity was too little, too late.

What??, are you saying that Farah should've played his own game right from the seasons start.
Got to admit , I sort of agree with you :slight_smile:

That's an interesting point you raise GCT. For the past few seasons Robbie has just about been the only feather the WT had to fly with. He was our most influential playmaker and so many of our tries came off the back of his creativity.

This season, however, he has been nowhere near as influential. Some suggest that he is playing to instructions, but I find it difficult to believe that JT (who lives or dies based on results) would instruct Robbie not to attempt to set-up tries. I find it all very puzzling and very sad that it has come to this.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Is this the clean up Sheens was talking about ?
Benji gone, Robbie nearly gone

And Molzten Gone

 

[Russell]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

Alas GCT, the display of unity was too little, too late.

I think it was because he was going rather than most of them liking him.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The board don't need a great deal of football knowledge - although I believe they do have it.

If you Head Coach comes to you and says the captain is not a player we need, he is dragging down the morale of the club, he is ruining the workplace atmosphere then any board or ceo worth thier salt in any industry says get rid of him because culture is always more important then skill or talent.

That head coach would look pretty stupid if he did that after the display of unity that was shown on Sunday by the players and crowd. Don't you think? Real bad morale
I think the CEO would be more likely to tell the coach to look at bettering his management skills, and stop wasting his time.

Alas GCT, the display of unity was too little, too late.

I think it was because he was going rather than most of them liking him.

That's got to be a joke , as even you couldnt believe that for a moment.

 

[clokan]

This season, however, he has been nowhere near as influential. Some suggest that he is playing to instructions, but I find it difficult to believe that JT (who lives or dies based on results) would instruct Robbie not to attempt to set-up tries. I find it all very puzzling and very sad that it has come to this.

Did you watch us against Newcastle, I cannot believe that the players chose to play that way.

 

[cktiger]

Forwards taking never ending hit ups and then someone bombing the middle of the field on the last - set after boring set.
Can **anybody** really think Farah and two young halves lauded for their attacking ability chose to play like this for nearly an entire season?

 

[fibrodreaming]

Fair points clokan and cktiger. As I said in my earlier post, I am puzzled by this and I don't know what to believe.

I can't reconcile our performances and approach against, say, Canterbury and Souths on the one hand with our performance against, say the Cowboys and Newcastle on the other.

Some have suggested that the team ignored the game plan in the first two matches I mentioned but followed the game plan in the latter two matches. But this raises other questions; such as, why does the team decide to ignore the game plan for some matches, but not for others? Why don't they ignore the game plan in every match, particularly when , as some suggest, they have so much success doing so?

There must be a rational explanation for our up and down performances over the course of the season. If anyone has an explanation I would be glad to hear it.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

This season, however, he has been nowhere near as influential. Some suggest that he is playing to instructions, but I find it difficult to believe that JT (who lives or dies based on results) would instruct Robbie not to attempt to set-up tries. I find it all very puzzling and very sad that it has come to this.

Did you watch us against Newcastle, I cannot believe that the players chose to play that way.

A look back to 2009\. Read with interest.

Mark Ellison was popular with Souths players. Taylor was not. Taylor sacked him but Ellison was
re-hired by John Lang who took over from Taylor. Ellison is now Football Manager under Maguire. What do we make of that? Taylor was under pressure and there was a rumour of a player revolt. Read between the lines.
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The Rovere Report
Written by: Adrian Rovere
June 18th 2009 12:16 AM

JASON NOT TAILOR-MADE FOR COACHING

If there is a coach whose "under the pump" more than Jason Taylor at South Sydney than I'd like to know who. For the quality of the roster, the Rabbitohs are the most under-performing team in the competition and the head coach should be held accountable.

The combination of curious selections and even more curious match tactics, has severely dimmed the confidence of Souths' supporters who went into the season feeling their side were genuine title contenders after solid recruitments over the off-season and the bonus of picking up star backrower Michael Crocker.

Former player and radio personality Peter Tunks has been highly critical of Taylor's coaching methods and calls from Souths' fans to his show, Talkin Sport on 2SM, suggests the ground swell of discontent is growing by the week.

Tunks says the suprise sacking of assistant coach Mark Ellison - considered part of the fabric at the Rabbitohs - was he felt an indication that Taylor was unwilling to take ownership for his team's poor performances and a style of play which the former Test prop says badly lacking in imagination.

Souths' "tragic" Darren, a regular caller to the Talkin Sport program who travels to games as far away as Townsville, has been another vocal critic of Taylor's handling of his beloved club.

With a forward talent full of internationals and a backline boasting both speed and talent, anything less than a semi-final's berth and it can be considered a failed season by the Rabbitohs leaving many questions to be asked of the club.

And the one at the top of the list should be:- "Is Jason Taylor the coach who can bring us a premiership within the next two years?

If the team misses out on the Top Eight, it won't by just Peter Tunks and Darren whose unequiviocal answer to that question will be a definitive "no'.
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[innsaneink]

Oh god quoting adrian is bottom of the barrel…desperate times indeed.

Tunks says the suprise sacking of assistant coach Mark Ellison - considered part of the fabric at the Rabbitohs - was he felt an indication that Taylor was unwilling to take ownership for his team's poor performances and a style of play which the former Test prop says badly lacking in imagination.

Part of the fabric. Rings a bell.
Lets looke at Ellisons time prior to his sacking
2008 souths came 14th, 2007 they made the semis coming 7th, 2006 - last, 2005 = 13th, 2004 = last, 2003 = last, 2002 - 14th...great work Ellison

Id hazard a guess Tunks is sticking up for his former team mate too