Western Sydney Wanderers

[Demonborger]

Wanderers have to be careful, already they have a solid core of dickheads in the support that need to be weeded out.
The booing during the presentation is one thing but the bottles thrown onto the field, flares and wrecked seats (lots of seats were ripped out of the concrete setting on the RBB side of the stadium) is ridiculous.

Passion is one thing but for a persons entire identity to be derived through hardcore support of a football team is what causes forced segregation and heavy police presence in places like Poland.

Another thing and a more so a personal opinion is that i find it strange how so many football fans barely watch the actual game, to them it's more like being at a music concert than a football match. Very much caught up in themselves more than anything. Of course this is only a minority but still rather strange.

For the record i am a wanderers fan and a football fan who has played the game for decades.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

People saying RBB have destroyed part of the stadium? Is that true?

Yep, looks like they ripped out seats in the Cove.

I don't care how anyone slices it. A core part of that RBB are bad eggs. The reaction to the legitimate penalty kick awarded off the Polenz handball was disgraceful. Not even one of the security guards attempted to remove that flare, and left it to a Wanderers player to pick it up.

 

[happy_tiger]

People saying RBB have destroyed part of the stadium? Is that true?

Yep, looks like they ripped out seats in the Cove.

I don't care how anyone slices it. A core part of that RBB are bad eggs. The reaction to the legitimate penalty kick awarded off the Polenz handball was disgraceful. Not even one of the security guards attempted to remove that flare, and left it to a Wanderers player to pick it up.

Bloody disgraceful ,how can anyone be proud of that sort of garbage The RBB group should be forced to find the offending members and have them banned for life and handed over to police

Bet your wishing the Roar had won last week now

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Thank christ the garbage is over for another year.

 

[tigerbenji]

They are a Bloody disgrace some of their fans, I was glad CCM won to honest.

 

[system]

You have to laugh.

If it were for instance Bulldogs fans who had acted in this way it would be a League In Crisis multi page spread in that News Ltd rag the Telegraph.

It shouls serve as somewhat of a warning to the A League fans and powers that be how News Ltd work. Right now they are a solely Pay TV entity and the media branches are busy pumping the tyres and heaping praise on their old stooge David Gallop.

Just wait until the new TV rights deal comes around. Watch how they trash the game with a back catalogue on minor incidents to make the codes name mud and attempt to drive the price down. Just be thankful they do not have an ownership stake in your game.

If reports are true about that section chanting and singing during the National Anthem then they are a disgrace, pure and simple

 

[Yossarian]

One of their "fans" also threw what looked like the best part of their drink on McBreen after he scored too. The vast majority of WSW supporters have added a hell of a lot of interest and appeal to the A-League but there is this growing ugly side that seems to be unchecked for the most part.

That flare of the penalty landed in the penalty box. What happens if it hits a player in the head? If that happened at an NRL game I'd have no hesitation in pointing out the clown to security or police.

 

[Newtown]

I doubt that the majority of these fans would attend the matches next season if their team doesn't fire.

 

[Peaches]

I am a member of the RBB and this is a true take of what occurred.

I got to the Woolpack pub at 10:45 where a few hundred fans had congregated. We weren't really singing at all as the band leaders were already in the city.

We marched to Parramatta Station where we were singing to catch the train. TV cameras and photographers everywhere. Whoever led the march took us on the wrong platform which was a little embarrassing. We sung throughout the train ride. There were a few other people from the public on there but only Wanderers fans caught the train after we get on and I think that was a fairly smart move. Hahaha. We were fairly loud.

We marched through Central and had 7 pubs around Central Station to drink at which were organised by RBB leaders. The RBB core and a few guys from the band were at the Aurora Hotel and I managed to join my mates in there. We sung loud and proud as many Wanderers fans waited on the streets to be apart of the march. I saw a few camera crews looking to get interviews and whatnot but there is a general rule amongst the fans that we don't talk in the media after a couple of incidents were very much sensationalised.

The march came and we walked up Foveaux St. We started on the footpath but it become quite clear with the few thousand people matching that the road would be a better option to move the crowd and the police started to close down the roads. I think one or flares were let off as were little bungers but other then that, the locals and those in their cars had many smiles on their faces. It was an awesome sight looking back over the march. Photographers and TV cameras everywhere.

The march continued all the way to the stadium where stadium management stuffed up big time. It seemed everyone had a ticket for gate C for some reason and people were moving very slowly. I waited outside for over an hour and just got in before kick-off. They were frisking everyone and had 3 or 4 people doing this until they realized the crowd wasn't moving. They had so many police just standing there and they could have helped frisk if they had to and move the crowd along.

Inside the stadium was a cauldron. I had awesome seats a few rows from the front just to the side of the centre of the RBB. I was impressed by the Mariners fans who turned out for the grand final. Their side deserves their support during the season, not just the big game.

The national anthem was sung but we are at the RBB didn't know and were already singing. Once we realised we stopped and we heard the last line only. A bit of a shame there but was just how loud the stadium was.

Then the match was played. The Mariners quite clearly outplayed the Wanderers tonight. The officiating was poor and had the rub of the green gone our way tonight, it could be a 2-1 victory for us. Nonetheless it didn't work out that way and a great season had. I think we won the battle of active support though and it was great to see so many smiling people. A few flares lit off which is never great but no one was hurt.

Those seats at Allianz are just poor quality and quite clearly no where near the strength of Parramatta Stadium. We in the RBB stand on the seats at the game unless its those ones that flip up. And these seats were cracking and breaking off under the weight of a 55 kilogram teenage girl. And there was a lot more heavier people then here there too. Hahaha. We didn't destroy the stadium. It was literally breaking underneath us.

The turning of our backs on the Mariners I thought was a bit of a bad look. They were deserved winners. We didn't have to shut-up but we could of kept chanting while facing forwards.

So all in all a good night not great because of a loss. Most Wanderers fans recognised we were outplayed but were just still so proud of the performance of the boys throughout their debut season. I can't wait for next season now.

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[Peaches]

One of their "fans" also threw what looked like the best part of their drink on McBreen after he scored too. The vast majority of WSW supporters have added a hell of a lot of interest and appeal to the A-League but there is this growing ugly side that seems to be unchecked for the most part.

That flare of the penalty landed in the penalty box. What happens if it hits a player in the head? If that happened at an NRL game I'd have no hesitation in pointing out the clown to security or police.

Both of these instances weren't good looks. We as a support group have a fair bit to learn. I feel sorry for the core leaders who organise these things because the support has just really taken off. There are a few bandwagoners but there are just as many who are keen to be seasoned ticket holders.

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[Peaches]

You have to laugh.

If it were for instance Bulldogs fans who had acted in this way it would be a League In Crisis multi page spread in that News Ltd rag the Telegraph.

It shouls serve as somewhat of a warning to the A League fans and powers that be how News Ltd work. Right now they are a solely Pay TV entity and the media branches are busy pumping the tyres and heaping praise on their old stooge David Gallop.

Just wait until the new TV rights deal comes around. Watch how they trash the game with a back catalogue on minor incidents to make the codes name mud and attempt to drive the price down. Just be thankful they do not have an ownership stake in your game.

If reports are true about that section chanting and singing during the National Anthem then they are a disgrace, pure and simple

We didn't know the national anthem was being sung. And when we did we stopped. We couldn't hear anything in that stadium apart from ourselves and the referee's whistle.

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[Peaches]

I wanna see how their wannabe gangsta, hooligan supporter base react to losing a big game. Will they riot? i'd be very nervous walking out of the stadium in a CC jersey if they win it

As far as I know there were no incidents post match. Many Mariners fans walked amongst us as they had trains and buses to catch too.

Do some of you people think we Wanderers fans are just people who want to fight and punch everyone if we lose?

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[Peaches]

Didnt think much of the fans turning their backs on the victors recieving their medals….show some respect, and dont give me some garbage european tradition.

Got CCM & Country RL up in a 3 leg multi, need Man U to get up in the morning

Bad luck Allan

Thanks mate. Yeah I agree it wasn't a great look. I think we do have areas to improve and this is one of them.

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[system]

It will no doubt get better but to blame stadium seating when it states as a condition of entry that you are not to do it it comes off as just arrogant.

FTR on average 10 seats are replaced each game at Parra Stadium (source: The Stadium Trust)

 

[Peaches]

It will no doubt get better but to blame stadium seating when it states as a condition of entry that you are not to do it it comes off as just arrogant.

FTR on average 10 seats are replaced each game at Parra Stadium (source: The Stadium Trust)

Well when you purchase a ticket in the RBB it says on the ticket it's a restricted view as fans will stand on their seats and flags will be waved.
And those seats were ridiculously poor. I don't know how The Cove don't have this issue. Maybe their crowds just aren't as active?
And being 100% honest I can't remember seeing too many break at Parramatta Stadium. I have a loud crack around me once or twice which suggests that this has happened but I can honestly say I've never seen them broken like yesterday. I can't disagree with facts though.

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[Yossarian]

One of their "fans" also threw what looked like the best part of their drink on McBreen after he scored too. The vast majority of WSW supporters have added a hell of a lot of interest and appeal to the A-League but there is this growing ugly side that seems to be unchecked for the most part.

That flare of the penalty landed in the penalty box. What happens if it hits a player in the head? If that happened at an NRL game I'd have no hesitation in pointing out the clown to security or police.

Both of these instances weren't good looks. We as a support group have a fair bit to learn. I feel sorry for the core leaders who organise these things because the support has just really taken off. There are a few bandwagoners but there are just as many who are keen to be seasoned ticket holders.

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Well let me ask you this Allan. If yourself or one of the RRB leaders became aware of the identity of people who brought flares into the ground would they be thrown out of the RRB?

I'm not trying to pick on your personally but you're easily the best placed person on this forum to answer the question.

Also I'm not trying to criticise the WSW support base or even the RRB (even though some things will never be agreeable to). The team is easily the best thing the FFA has ever done and the fanbase has done great things to raise the A-league's profile. It just seems to me that there is an aspect of the support that is not needed (as you yourself suggest) and that not enough is being done to remove that element from the support base.

 

[stryker]

Allan you certainly strike me as a passionate person which is a quality that I like in people…in fact it is the quality that I most look for when meeting new people.

That said, this thread to me has taken on an aspect of pure propaganda. You appear to be this forums spokesperson - not for soccer as a sport, not the Western Sydney Wanderers as a club but for this group of supporters. The language you use when describing the RBB has taken on a decidedly cultish tone...'we of the rbb', as an example. It seems that those within, including you see yourselves as more important than the club and even the game itself. I have seen this before when I lived in London. I am not saying you guys are as tragic as them...yet, but that certainly seems the destination this little organisation of yours seems headed. You only have to listen to interviews with participants to realise this. There is a glorification of these 'firms' and as someone who has seen these dangerous morons in action, I can tell you there is nothing impressive or cool about them at all.

Showing undying support for your team is great. Doing so by proudly being a part of a large group of fanatics who show no one including the law any respect is another thing entirely. They show no respect to their opposition, no respect for the facilities, nor the general public, very little for the sport in general and most importantly for me, no respect for this country by singing your bull crap songs during our bloody anthem! You as a collective are a disgace and an embarrassment. Your not cool, most of the community, including those involved with soccer think your a bunch tossgods.

If I was a WSW fan and went to the games I would sit as far away from your group as possible because it is fairly obvious that most of you are not true fans of the club or the sport.

 

[Peaches]

One of their "fans" also threw what looked like the best part of their drink on McBreen after he scored too. The vast majority of WSW supporters have added a hell of a lot of interest and appeal to the A-League but there is this growing ugly side that seems to be unchecked for the most part.

That flare of the penalty landed in the penalty box. What happens if it hits a player in the head? If that happened at an NRL game I'd have no hesitation in pointing out the clown to security or police.

Both of these instances weren't good looks. We as a support group have a fair bit to learn. I feel sorry for the core leaders who organise these things because the support has just really taken off. There are a few bandwagoners but there are just as many who are keen to be seasoned ticket holders.

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Well let me ask you this Allan. If yourself or one of the RRB leaders became aware of the identity of people who brought flares into the ground would they be thrown out of the RRB?

I'm not trying to pick on your personally but you're easily the best placed person on this forum to answer the question.

Also I'm not trying to criticise the WSW support base or even the RRB (even though some things will never be agreeable to). The team is easily the best thing the FFA has ever done and the fanbase has done great things to raise the A-league's profile. It just seems to me that there is an aspect of the support that is not needed (as you yourself suggest) and that not enough is being done to remove that element from the support base.

Good question. I'm not a core leader and don't aspire to be. I just find being held responsible for so many people who can just walk in and walk out as they please very tough and unfair. I know the stance of the RBB is those who use flares have to accept that they will be dealt with by the police and security.

If I saw it myself, I don't know how I would react and that's being honest. I see them on the ground lit up but never in someone's hands. I hate the taste of them in my nose and mouth. They've been lit up around me a few times and its often when a group of teenagers are around us. Those 17-19 year old kids mostly.

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[Peaches]

Allan you certainly strike me as a passionate person which is a quality that I like in people…in fact it is the quality that I most look for when meeting new people.

That said, this thread to me has taken on an aspect of pure propaganda. You appear to be this forums spokesperson - not for soccer as a sport, not the Western Sydney Wanderers as a club but for this group of supporters. The language you use when describing the RBB has taken on a decidedly cultish tone...'we of the rbb', as an example. It seems that those within, including you see yourselves as more important than the club and even the game itself. I have seen this before when I lived in London. I am not saying you guys are as tragic as them...yet, but that certainly seems the destination this little organisation of yours seems headed. You only have to listen to interviews with participants to realise this. There is a glorification of these 'firms' and as someone who has seen these dangerous morons in action, I can tell you there is nothing impressive or cool about them at all.

Showing undying support for your team is great. Doing so by proudly being a part of a large group of fanatics who show no one including the law any respect is another thing entirely. They show no respect to their opposition, no respect for the facilities, nor the general public, very little for the sport in general and most importantly for me, no respect for this country by singing your bull crap songs during our bloody anthem! You as a collective are a disgace and an embarrassment. Your not cool, most of the community, including those involved with soccer think your a bunch tossgods.

If I was a WSW fan and went to the games I would sit as far away from your group as possible because it is fairly obvious that most of you are not true fans of the club or the sport.

That's a fair post where you let yourself down.

Firstly I definately feel I have taken on a spokesperson role for the RBB on this forum. I think if there were a few more Wanderers fans on the forum then it would be much more clear to those who haven't been to games just how fun and safe they are. I'm not going to stand back and watch the club I love and a bunch of awesome supporters attacked. I would do the same if someone was attacking the Tigers.

My opinion will always be somewhat centered around the RBB as that's where I've watched every match from. I haven't seen a match from the stands where there is an opportunity to look at the RBB from the outside.

I understand your thought of it being somewhat like a cult. I've heard it before. However I myself have spoken against a couple of things the RBB does and if you go on its forum, you'll see all the discussion amongst all it's fans. Does that sound like a cult? This group has grown rapidly and I myself wasn't there at the start. The volunteers who do all the work are tremendous and they'll be much better for it next season.

Once again I'll type that we did not know the national anthem was on when we were singing chants that support out club. When we did, we shut-up and we heard the last couple of lines of it. If you were at the ground and towards our end, you would know that all that could be heard throughout was us and sometimes the referees whistle.

To attack us a whole and call us a bunch of "tossgods" shows extreme immaturity and a general lack of understanding of who complies the RBB. Amongst the RBB are doctors, lawyers, school principals and a 69 year old retired principal who won FFA supporter of the year. She was so proud to receive that award and she is so respected amongst everyone, especially the core. Amongst the RBB yesterday was a grandfather in his 70s who goes to matches with his grandchildren. Yeah he really is a menace to society.

After the trip to Newcastle, I know personally the core were asked by The Squadron (Jets active support group), how to coordinate our chants and many active fans have asked throughout.

I myself had a great chat with a Mariners fan walking back to the pub after the away game up there, saying he is jealous of our support and how do we do it. I actually saw this bloke on the big screen yesterday and credit to the Mariners as their support bay looked awesome yesterday. It was bright yellow and flags everywhere.

Please come to a Wanderers game and experience it firsthand. Sit or stand wherever you like. Come stand with me if you wish. You just have to sing and chant for 90+ minutes. That's all that is asked and expected of any active support.

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[LaT]

I haven't seen much of an "attack", more like some unkind words with an element of truth behind them.

"You just have to sing and chant for 90+ minutes. That's all that is asked and expected of any active support."

Is this a sporting event or Hillsong?

(KIDDING!)