Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor gives halves Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses licence to entertain

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Some interesting quotes here from both Brooks and Moses.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-coach-jason-taylor-gives-halves-luke-brooks-and-mitchell-moses-licence-to-entertain/news-story/c91ee6cd054a75759fc9f7a9d2a80d91?from=public_rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

WESTS Tigers’ young halves Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses have been handed back their licence to entertain — and they couldn’t be happier.
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The pair revealed the structures introduced by Jason Taylor last year didn’t suit their natural games, especially Moses, but the coach had since allowed them to revert to the exciting off-the-cuff style that worked so well for a decade before they arrived in the NRL.
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Moses went as far to say Taylor’s structures didn’t allow him to ‘’show the best player I could be’’.
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“Playing what we see in front of us, that’s how we’ve played footy all of our careers, and I think it will benefit us this year,’’ Moses told The Daily Telegraph.
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“Towards the end of last year JT saw us playing a bit of a different style of footy, JT was open to that, he let us do it, and this year I think you’ll see a different style of footy from the Tigers.
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“You’ll see a lot more entertainment than last year, more freestyling footy, and everyone working for each other. We’re a tight group, we’re sick of losing, we want to make the eight, and that’s our goal.
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“We’re definitely a lot more relaxed group this year, everyone knows what we have to do now. Coming in playing structured footy (last year), the Tigers had never played structured footy before, and you could see why we struggled a bit.
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“But JT has opened himself up, and I think you’ll see a different team.’’
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Moses and Brooks, both 21, have played together for a decade, and are seen as the long-term halves the joint venture can build their future success around.
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However, fans were worried when they both delayed a decision to take up an option for 2017.
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Moses and Brooks made it clear Taylor was not the reason for putting their contract talks on the backburner.
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“I didn’t want to go through contract talks in January and wanted to focus on footy and go from there,’’ Moses said.
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As for playing with Brooks, Moses said: “I know his game and he knows mine. If I see him I’ll follow him. On the field I react to things he does, and he reacts to things I do. If we see something now we’ll do it instead of holding back.’’
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Brooks said he was keen to run the ball more this season.
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“There will be more playing what we see, looking up at the defence and seeing what they’re doing,’’ Brooks said.
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“You have to have a structure to fall back on, but being able to play outside that structure is what’s key, and that’s what well do.’’
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Robbie Farah praised the arrival of attacking coach Craig Sandercock, who made a point of asking Farah, Brooks and Moses what plays they wanted to embrace. Farah, like Brooks, hopes to adopt more of a running game again.
 
SO are we all going to bag the hell out of Moses and Brooks for speaking honestly and openly? Becuase thats what we would do if it were Farah.

Anyway, I for one am looking forward to this. I think Taylor came over with way too many structures and systems geared towards an international, Big lineup at The Roosters. You have to play to your own teams strengths.

Now Mitch, Luke and Robbie have had their say its time to back it up with some Wins and some great displays.

They start dropping the ball and completing 50% of sets and losing and they will look like mugs.

So whilst this is exciting and I think beneficial, its time to back it up on the field.
 
Im saying its a pretty big call from young guys like Moses and Brooks to come out and openly question the coaches tactics.

They need to come out and back it up now.

Im looking forward to the changes though.
 
Just some basic communication, working together…., looks like things are falling into place nicely, a good season ahead
 
Just as long as they know when to play what they see.
I wonder how the rest of the team know what they'll be doing when they play what they see…. Hopefully not kicks with no chasers etc.
Platforms need to be set because this footy Is high risk
 
Looks like the coach is getting the players to buy into a game plan designed around the strengths of the squad. I like JT's move as once the new bard is appointed and if we are struggling, playing boring footy his bags will be packed. If we fire playing attacking footy he may hang on. Well played.
 
I do like the bullishness of Moses though.

I like a play maker with a bit of a swagger about them.

He has got to back it up but he seems like he has the fire in him.
 
@innsaneink said:
Just as long as they know when to play what they see.
I wonder how the rest of the team know what they'll be doing when they play what they see…. Hopefully not kicks with no chasers etc.
Platforms need to be set because this footy Is high risk

Disagree strrretch?
 
@innsaneink said:
Just as long as they know when to play what they see.
I wonder how the rest of the team know what they'll be doing when they play what they see…. Hopefully not kicks with no chasers etc.
Platforms need to be set because this footy Is high risk

Exactly right Ink

The team still needs to be on the same page when they play what they see , especially Farah and Tedesco they are the links to the forwards and backs

I still want to see us running better angles in attack and hitting the line at speed

This is where I thought Sironen would excel , but maybe the lack of quality NRL centres hurts him as opposition defences know they just sit on Sirro and / or Tedesco
 
The other question I'm interested to hear is what do people think Brooks strength is

Running game or passing game ??

Look I think his running game has potential as he is quite strong when he runs the ball

Early in games I'd love to see him run at the defence when he has room to move

It really puts defences in two minds if your 7 runs early and will help Moses's running game as well , particularly if Moses runs straight after

I've always been a big believer that close to the line that your halves running one after the other can be devastating if they get reasonably quick play the balls
 
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…
 
@willow said:
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…

We would've definitely won the spoon if we did

“You have to have a structure to fall back on, but being able to play outside that structure is what’s key, and that’s what well do.’’
 
@innsaneink said:
@willow said:
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…

We would've definitely won the spoon if we did

“You have to have a structure to fall back on, but being able to play outside that structure is what’s key, and that’s what well do.’’

Not so sure about that Ink. We came very close to getting to spoon playing the same type of game as teams that do it better than us. Going back to Our style of play is where will worry teams. Not playing their game
 
@innsaneink said:
@willow said:
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…

We would've definitely won the spoon if we did

“You have to have a structure to fall back on, but being able to play outside that structure is what’s key, and that’s what well do.’’

As I said in an earlier thread,last year was all about teaching the young guns about DEFENSE,it was hard to watch,however if the young ones have learnt to score points and defend the lead,then we can make the 8 with reasonable confidence…let's see if they have learnt much from last year,and yes a combination of brilliant attack backed up by brutal defense will be outstanding to see....I will reserve my judgement until they show us on the field what they can do,not just talk it up and give us a false sense of excitement .....
 
At this time of the season every year we get bombarded with articles like this. Its all about generating interest and getting people talking about the up coming season.

To think Taylor has gone out said to his six and seven just go out there and throw the ball around and do what you like and have fun is madness. Of course there are structures in place and always will be. All Taylor has probably said to his six and seven, if you think something is on go for it, but 90% of the time they will be playing to a structured game plan. The structure might be to play a expansive game plan but there will be a plan
 
@willow said:
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…

Tigers Footy will always be tigers footy
 
The footy we played last year was absolute boring.
The structures he implemented just didn't work and made our players play game plans that just weren't in them.
Don't know what part of our defence improved cause there was no improvement on the 2nd half of the Season.

JT realises that another year like last year in pushing through his structured footy could have a massive bearing on Brooks, Moses and even Tedesco. I think his bitten the bullet and is allowing them to do what there natural instincts tells them to do.
What they need to learn is how to close out a game and fall back on a structured game plan so other sides don't get a sniff when we go out to a healthy lead.

I'm glad that JT is going to allow this to occur cause it was painful to watch 2 kids play a brand of Footy that was foreign to them.
The 1st half of the Season when Potter was Coaching them in 2014…..I remember being at the Titans vs Wests Tigers game in 30+ degree heat and it was the Tedesco and Brooks show and a week later the same thing vs Souths.....that is how these kids play the game.
 
@Tigerdon said:
@innsaneink said:
@willow said:
This is how they should have been allowed to play from round 1 last year, except Taylor wanted us to play like the Chooks. Hopefully we're a bit more exciting to watch with ball in hand this year. It would be great to see Simona get more quality ball as I don't think I've seen him this fit, and Nofoaluma looked sharp in the Storm trial. Here's hoping…

We would've definitely won the spoon if we did

“You have to have a structure to fall back on, but being able to play outside that structure is what’s key, and that’s what well do.’’

Not so sure about that Ink. We came very close to getting to spoon playing the same type of game as teams that do it better than us. Going back to Our style of play is where will worry teams. Not playing their game

We wouldve gotten the spoon by a mile without the base JT is trying to get the boys to lay….
Too many do not seem to understand the basis of a defensive foundation and what we were trying to achieve last year....it still remains to be seen if we have moved forwrd in this area if at all
"Our style"...whatever that is....has seen me watching other teams year in year out come september
You cant just go out and play ad lib touch footy...its suicide
 
@supercoach said:
At this time of the season every year we get bombarded with articles like this. Its all about generating interest and getting people talking about the up coming season.

To think Taylor has gone out said to his six and seven just go out there and throw the ball around and do what you like and have fun is madness. Of course there are structures in place and always will be. All Taylor has probably said to his six and seven, if you think something is on go for it, but 90% of the time they will be playing to a structured game plan. The structure might be to play a expansive game plan but there will be a plan

I agree sc. I don't buy it that 2015 was about straight-jacketing players and 2016 is about letting them off the leash. It's always a balance, about doing the smart and boring play at the right time, then the attacking flair play when you've earned that right.

Also there is this idea amongst some fans of "I wish coach would let his halves play their natural game", as if results are mostly attributed to the game plans put in place, ignoring other important factors like actual execution of those plans or individual halfback performance.

You can have the greatest structures in the world, but they are meaningless if you can't hold the footy, or your forwards get dominated, or the halfback has a dip in form.

I am also wary of players wanting to be "let off the leash" - let us not quickly forget Benji Marshall, arguably one of the all-time great "off leash" footballers, who could win you a game in an instant, just as simply as he could miss an important tackle or put a kick out on the full in the 78th minute. WT have historically been an attacking-focused, natural instincts side, and we know that does not produce consistent results. I'm all for trying to change up the team mindset and playing style to get different results.

There is also something to be said about forcing players out of their comfort zone, to encourage improvement and maturation of performance. Sean Johnson, for example, is a fantastic attacking weapon, but he's not a complete player, and I would not be telling him just to do whatever he wants on the field. That's why we have coaches in the first place.

People also seem to overlook the experience of the two halves at the time we set certain structures in 2015\. This time last year Brooks had played 22 games and Moses 10\. That is the exact kind of experience level where you set simple game plans, repetitive structures and allow the players to grow into their roles. You don't send these inexperienced kids out against seasoned opposition, to play like they did in the junior grades.

Some fans comment that JT must have "realised the errors of his ways" towards season end 2015 and unleashed the players, but those same players were also now 20 games more experienced (i.e. doubling or tripling their experience). Perhaps it was more about shackling the players until they proved they could play tough, then let them open up their skillset some more.
 
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