Wests Tigers Coaches

[finnzo]

IMO if you don’t make the 8 you have a bad season, sure you can say that the teams that are the bottom of the 8 won’t make it to the GF let alone win it, but they still have a chance of doing so, Morris finished both years 7th and 8th and out the first week but having a chance to win it is better than not being able to try at all, I understood sacking Morris meant they were giving up 2021 but Hannay while he was just coaching them last year he didn’t do any better only positive for Sharks last year was they were the best team out of the others that didn’t make it and not coming last too, the point I was trying to make before was sometimes sacking the coach mid year doesn’t always help your team yes it helped Sharks this year but 21 it didn’t ultimately the goal each year is to win the premiership but obviously only 1 team does and for some teams the goal is to get back into finals footy like us.

Ok I can agree that sacking Morris didn’t do them an favours in the short term but did massive favours for them long term if they had waited till the end of the year to sign Fitzgibbon they would have missed out on key signings that have massively benefited them this year. all to say but we made the 8 last year I can see where your comming from it just doesn’t make sense to me there is no way any team other than Penrith eels parra or storm cowboys possibly even broncos consider they are a chance to win it this year so you start planning for the year after weather that means giving yong blokes more minutes or sacking a coach at this time of year if you’re not in the frame for a top 4 finish it’s time to start planning for next year

 

[Cobarcats]

Hey champion @Glenji95 - I liked this post. But I wanna especially say this must rate the longest sentence in WTF history - sure I know there were a few commas, but WOW!

That's definitely some sort of record Glen 👍

 

[Jolls]

Siebold unleashed South's when he took over from Madge,but he had the backline talent to do so

I think you are spot on there. Seibs in the right place at the right time with the right cattle. He was working with a team that had all the basics that he could refine. I think for us Siebs would be a bit like he was with Brisbane - probably only a more square peg than Madge. Don't get me wrong I think Siebs has a football brain about the size of this planet - but the players have to be at the top level to understand it - way too complex for "development" team as we witnessed.

Siebs at SOO would be brilliant!

 

[Newtown]

Gould bites back at latest Bulldogs coach rumour​

Simon Brunsdon - 1h ago

Five weeks after Trent Barrett suddenly quit as Canterbury coach, Phil Gould insists he still hasn't spoken to a single candidate to fill the position.
The Bulldogs have hit a mid-year resurgence of sorts, winning two games in a row under interim head coach Mick Potter before this week's bye round.
But the club is supposedly no closer to securing a permanent coach, despite the logical conclusion that one will need to be in place before November, when the players return for pre-season training.

Gould, in his role as the club's football manager, is tasked with finding and appointing the new coach. But he says he hasn't even started the hunt. "I keep saying this - I haven't spoken to anyone, nor am I going to speak to anyone in the immediate future," a defiant Gould told Wide World of Sports' We're trying to get our club right so that when I do ask someone they say 'yes' immediately, because they can see what we're doing.

 

[Glenji95]

Ok I can agree that sacking Morris didn’t do them an favours in the short term but did massive favours for them long term if they had waited till the end of the year to sign Fitzgibbon they would have missed out on key signings that have massively benefited them this year. all to say but we made the 8 last year I can see where your comming from it just doesn’t make sense to me there is no way any team other than Penrith eels parra or storm cowboys possibly even broncos consider they are a chance to win it this year so you start planning for the year after weather that means giving yong blokes more minutes or sacking a coach at this time of year if you’re not in the frame for a top 4 finish it’s time to start planning for next year

I agree that realistically only the top 4 teams have the best chance of winning the premiership and if you finish outside that you need to consider where and what went wrong, so ultimately Sharks did make a good decision just it cost them a year but I know long term it suited them.

 

[Needaname]

No not entirely. Rather that the performance culture never resembled our desired design/objective and the team's inconsistencies were indicative of this. More that he was perhaps a mismatch and unsatisfactory or not suited, for that specific job.

Madge in my opinion was recruited to put the steel into the Wests Tigers.
Whilst we had the best assembled roster of our available players to start with in 2019 we were playing that way. We were starting to show a resolve in defence. But just like in Cleary’s season the year before it just wasn’t sustainable if you cannot capitalise with attack. You need all the ingredients to be a success. We scored more point in 2019 than 2018 but we played to a more basic structure. Unfortunately it’s the same foundation that all the successful teams are built on. I can’t honestly see that Madge was coaching us in a different style. The difference within the table places was the personnel. Once the foundations are set you can evolve from them and play some footy. But as evidenced most of this year watching Brooks run around, if we wanted to play a game other than 5 hit ups and a kick we would need halves with a dependable kicking games. All of ours don’t have that and unfortunately it’s never been a focus at this club. If we wanted to play an offload focus game we would need forwards that are mobile at the line and can manipulate the defenders to their advantage, once again we don’t have that. If we wanted to play a style like 05 where we start to attack from our 20-30 m line, we would need crisp passing and speed, once again we don’t have that in this NRL team.
I hope, but I can’t see any coach extracting a style out of this roster.
That’s why I’m saying we are better off developing the current squad to play a particular way and recruiting or promoting players from outside or in our ranks that can carry it out.
It is worthwhile to note that only Isaah Yeo that had debuted under Cleary when he first coached Penrith remains in their premiership winning team. The rest have retired or moved on or been moved on.
It’s fair to say with our roster by the time we strike it hot, probably only Doeuihi and Stefano will be there.

 

[hank37w]

Ah yes the mail is pointing to us getting toovey

If we get Tooves I won't bother going to any more games, but I will definitely be tuning in to all the press conferences.

 

[hank37w]

What are Marshall and Farah's current roles at the club?

Does WT have specialist Half Back coaches on staff, Maybe forwards need a Mentor and Backs need a sprint coach.

Maybe the support network around the players needs improvement.

Don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.

Should start off with a catching and passing the ball coach.

 

[Needaname]

Don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.

Should start off with a catching and passing the ball coach.

I’d like to see a shoulder and chest contact specialist first.

 

[Demps]

Gould bites back at latest Bulldogs coach rumour​

Simon Brunsdon - 1h ago

Five weeks after Trent Barrett suddenly quit as Canterbury coach, Phil Gould insists he still hasn't spoken to a single candidate to fill the position.
The Bulldogs have hit a mid-year resurgence of sorts, winning two games in a row under interim head coach Mick Potter before this week's bye round.
But the club is supposedly no closer to securing a permanent coach, despite the logical conclusion that one will need to be in place before November, when the players return for pre-season training.

Gould, in his role as the club's football manager, is tasked with finding and appointing the new coach. But he says he hasn't even started the hunt. "I keep saying this - I haven't spoken to anyone, nor am I going to speak to anyone in the immediate future," a defiant Gould told Wide World of Sports' We're trying to get our club right so that when I do ask someone they say 'yes' immediately, because they can see what we're doing.

Guy has a face for radio.

Absolute joke he can attempt to campaign and politic like this whilst being involved in the Bulldogs.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

If you want to believe “inside man” …. CC is no go for WT ….. which if true …. would be a positive outcome on that subject.

 

[Demps]

If you want to believe “inside man” …. CC is no go for WT ….. which if true …. would be a positive outcome on that subject.

He use to post on here.

Worst strike rate than @Eyeofthetiger 0 as I recall.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Whatever …. don’t shoot the messenger.

 

[TSP]

Ffs,tweeked the funny bone,needa hand throwing the dogs.if Assange new our help was coming he would hi tail it to the good ol usa- execution is swifter than a death by a 1000 WT PAPER CUTS

Seeing Noddy emerge from a hole in his cell would be the only time Assange has called out for the guards during his long period in custody.

If our board were in on the rescue attempt, they would no doubt end up emerging in the wrong cell and bring home the wrong prisoner.

…With the accused appointed as head coach soon after.

 

[weststigerman]

If you want to believe “inside man” …. CC is no go for WT ….. which if true …. would be a positive outcome on that subject.

It’s a fairly likely outcome, so I’d say he’s guessing.

 

[Lauren]

He use to post on here.

Worst strike rate than @Eyeofthetiger 0 as I recall.

Haven't heard that name on here for a while. Also remember there was someone name tacky who frequented the forum.

 

[Demps]

Haven't heard that name on here for a while. Also remember there was someone name tacky who frequented the forum.

Yeah, Tacky was a brilliant pest.

Use to run amok on other forums, spreading misinformation 😂

Disappeared unfortunately.

 

[Needaname]

Yeah agree with most of what you've said. The whole balance of the squad has never really been addressed (fixed) but tbh there weren't many positive signs about his ability to modify our attacking structures and given the NRL team would be the bar or blueprint to follow, makes sense the club went another direction.

Yeah I don’t think that style is wanted at the club. We are back to trying to be everyone’s second favourite team but never anyone’s threat. It’s not how you win a comp but oh well.
If there’s a plan it’s a long one a long journey and it involves the current school aged boys. There can be no other way.

 

[tiger_one]

Haven't heard that name on here for a while. Also remember there was someone name tacky who frequented the forum.

Thanks champion @Lauren - you've reminded me:
wasn't tacky the guy who used to go undercover on other fan forums and send them crazy?

 

[liltiger]

We've also tried a few different established coaches now and it has not worked. I can bag the club, but I think a fresh set of ideas, and new-school approach could certainly make a big difference.

As a potential recruit sitting in front of the coach of Wests Tigers, I think Ciraldo asking you to buy into changing a decade of failure with new ideas, is more appealing than a coach such as Madge who has clearly had a losing record thus far.

Fact of the matter is, too, once we start winning games all of the outside noise will start to change.

I don't think we will get Ciraldo, but if he says no, there is no harm in going back with an improved offer to say "we are serious about getting out of this mess".

You make some very good points, established coaches have not worked.