Wests Tigers need to settle up with Robbie Farah so the NRL club can settle down

@Cultured Bogan said:
For crying out loud, are people not paying attention? I've not seen one person say he's not entitled to his money.

There's two scenarios:

1\. He'll play out his contract in reggies here; and collect his $900-950K;
2\. He'll land a contract with another club; they'll pay part of what he's owed next year and Wests will cover the balance.

Is there not a third where they just pay him to go? Everyone seems to discount this but surely by playing him in reserve grade, the club is just setting itself up for another media storm at some point in 2017.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
For crying out loud, are people not paying attention? I've not seen one person say he's not entitled to his money.

There's two scenarios:

1\. He'll play out his contract in reggies here; and collect his $900-950K;
2\. He'll land a contract with another club; they'll pay part of what he's owed next year and Wests will cover the balance.

3, if you count his Shoulder injury,he can milk that in many ways,early surgery,surgery next year,it will all depend on what offers he gets from the other Clubs to which way he jumps to my way of thinking.
 
@coopy said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
For crying out loud, are people not paying attention? I've not seen one person say he's not entitled to his money.

There's two scenarios:

1\. He'll play out his contract in reggies here; and collect his $900-950K;
2\. He'll land a contract with another club; they'll pay part of what he's owed next year and Wests will cover the balance.

Is there not a third where they just pay him to go? Everyone seems to discount this but surely by playing him in reserve grade, the club is just setting itself up for another media storm at some point in 2017.

I've posted something like this before so apologies for repeating. The club gets nothing out of paying him out in full. He will turn around and sign for another club as soon as he's released with full pay. Another club will be strengthened by picking him up on the cheap without this club getting any cap relief. Instead of doing that the club can play him in reserve grade and have him available as an option in the event of injury, or in the event that the coach is punted and a new coach actually wants to use him in first grade. He can also be used to train Liddle. Also there remains a good chance that Farah will cave and sign somewhere else to guarantee a continued first grade career.

They've already worn the damage from the media, there's not a lot more to threaten them with.
 
@Nelson said:
@coopy said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
For crying out loud, are people not paying attention? I've not seen one person say he's not entitled to his money.

There's two scenarios:

1\. He'll play out his contract in reggies here; and collect his $900-950K;
2\. He'll land a contract with another club; they'll pay part of what he's owed next year and Wests will cover the balance.

Is there not a third where they just pay him to go? Everyone seems to discount this but surely by playing him in reserve grade, the club is just setting itself up for another media storm at some point in 2017.

I've posted something like this before so apologies for repeating. The club gets nothing out of paying him out in full. He will turn around and sign for another club as soon as he's released with full pay. Another club will be strengthened by picking him up on the cheap without this club getting any cap relief. Instead of doing that the club can play him in reserve grade and have him available as an option in the event of injury, or in the event that the coach is punted and a new coach actually wants to use him in first grade. He can also be used to train Liddle. Also there remains a good chance that Farah will cave and sign somewhere else to guarantee a continued first grade career.

They've already worn the damage from the media, there's not a lot more to threaten them with.

I believe if Farah was to be paid out in full..there would be a condition he couldn't play for another NRL team in 2017…no double dipping....The Club that signed him wouldn't be able to register a contract with the NRL for under's either...

Wests Tigers have already refused that request when he asked for a release in 2016...
 
@Nelson said:
@coopy said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
For crying out loud, are people not paying attention? I've not seen one person say he's not entitled to his money.

There's two scenarios:

1\. He'll play out his contract in reggies here; and collect his $900-950K;
2\. He'll land a contract with another club; they'll pay part of what he's owed next year and Wests will cover the balance.

Is there not a third where they just pay him to go? Everyone seems to discount this but surely by playing him in reserve grade, the club is just setting itself up for another media storm at some point in 2017.

I've posted something like this before so apologies for repeating. The club gets nothing out of paying him out in full. He will turn around and sign for another club as soon as he's released with full pay. Another club will be strengthened by picking him up on the cheap without this club getting any cap relief. Instead of doing that the club can play him in reserve grade and have him available as an option in the event of injury, or in the event that the coach is punted and a new coach actually wants to use him in first grade. He can also be used to train Liddle. Also there remains a good chance that Farah will cave and sign somewhere else to guarantee a continued first grade career.

They've already worn the damage from the media, there's not a lot more to threaten them with.

Very good post all of it is true.
 
Those who keep saying Farah has the upper hand need to wake up.

He is now in reggies and will be there for a long time unless we get a new coach & something drastic changes

Money he will always get but on his terms at what value to play out his career in reserves? I would ve very surprised if Farah is thag stubborn to finish his career that way in reality.
 
At least people can all agree on one thing. Robbie is a divisive figure within the club.
He has divided the fans and possibly team mates. This is toxic and for this reason alone he has got to go.
 
@Mighty Tiger said:
Those who keep saying Farah has the upper hand need to wake up.

He is now in reggies and will be there for a long time unless we get a new coach & something drastic changes

Money he will always get but on his terms at what value to play out his career in reserves? I would ve very surprised if Farah is thag stubborn to finish his career that way in reality.

This may be true however, we are getting a reputation of a club that treats its very few legends terribly i.e.: Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah. We don't have many that even get close to 250 games and we should have celebrated this better and worked something out after football to get Farah to go overseas.

We are a badly managed club and this would not have happened at any strong club. Boneheaded decisions to get someone as stubborn as Farah to play Reggies to leave was only going to end up like this,
 
@TYGA said:
@Mighty Tiger said:
Those who keep saying Farah has the upper hand need to wake up.

He is now in reggies and will be there for a long time unless we get a new coach & something drastic changes

Money he will always get but on his terms at what value to play out his career in reserves? I would ve very surprised if Farah is thag stubborn to finish his career that way in reality.

This may be true however, we are getting a reputation of a club that treats its very few legends terribly i.e.: Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah. We don't have many that even get close to 250 games and we should have celebrated this better and worked something out after football to get Farah to go overseas.

We are a badly managed club and this would not have happened at any strong club. Boneheaded decisions to get someone as stubborn as Farah to play Reggies to leave was only going to end up like this,

How did the club treat Marshall terribly?
 
@Geo. said:
I believe if Farah was to be paid out in full..there would be a condition he couldn't play for another NRL team in 2017…no double dipping....The Club that signed him wouldn't be able to register a contract with the NRL for under's either...

Wests Tigers have already refused that request when he asked for a release in 2016...

They could make that a condition of his release but it would likely be an unenforceable restraint of trade given that it would effectively prevent him from working in his chosen field of employment in this country. He could sign with a rival club and if the Tigers tried to enforce the condition (which would involve taking the matter to court) they would stand a good chance of losing (and copping his legal costs as well). They would be well advised to get advice from an employment law expert before trying to incorporate a condition like that into a release (if they had any intention of trying to enforce it).
 
@Nelson said:
@Geo. said:
I believe if Farah was to be paid out in full..there would be a condition he couldn't play for another NRL team in 2017…no double dipping....The Club that signed him wouldn't be able to register a contract with the NRL for under's either...

Wests Tigers have already refused that request when he asked for a release in 2016...

They could make that a condition of his release but it would likely be an unenforceable restraint of trade given that it would effectively prevent him from working in his chosen field of employment in this country. He could sign with a rival club and if the Tigers tried to enforce the condition (which would involve taking the matter to court) they would stand a good chance of losing (and copping his legal costs as well). They would be well advised to get advice from an employment law expert before trying to incorporate a condition like that into a release (if they had any intention of trying to enforce it).

Gorden Tallis was forced to sit out a year when under contract with the Dragons and signing with the Broncos…
 
@Geo. said:
@Nelson said:
@Geo. said:
I believe if Farah was to be paid out in full..there would be a condition he couldn't play for another NRL team in 2017…no double dipping....The Club that signed him wouldn't be able to register a contract with the NRL for under's either...

Wests Tigers have already refused that request when he asked for a release in 2016...

They could make that a condition of his release but it would likely be an unenforceable restraint of trade given that it would effectively prevent him from working in his chosen field of employment in this country. He could sign with a rival club and if the Tigers tried to enforce the condition (which would involve taking the matter to court) they would stand a good chance of losing (and copping his legal costs as well). They would be well advised to get advice from an employment law expert before trying to incorporate a condition like that into a release (if they had any intention of trying to enforce it).

Gorden Tallis was forced to sit out a year when under contract with the Dragons and signing with the Broncos…

That's because Gorden Tallis wasn't released from his contractual obligations, like SBW he tried to walk out on a contract. It's a different situation when a club is releasing a player (i.e. they don't want them) but try to stop them from plying their trade elsewhere.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@TYGA said:
@Mighty Tiger said:
Those who keep saying Farah has the upper hand need to wake up.

He is now in reggies and will be there for a long time unless we get a new coach & something drastic changes

Money he will always get but on his terms at what value to play out his career in reserves? I would ve very surprised if Farah is thag stubborn to finish his career that way in reality.

This may be true however, we are getting a reputation of a club that treats its very few legends terribly i.e.: Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah. We don't have many that even get close to 250 games and we should have celebrated this better and worked something out after football to get Farah to go overseas.

We are a badly managed club and this would not have happened at any strong club. Boneheaded decisions to get someone as stubborn as Farah to play Reggies to leave was only going to end up like this,

How did the club treat Marshall terribly?

Off memory we reneged on a handshake deal in 2013 and punted half our team to Cronulla.
 
@TYGA said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@TYGA said:
@Mighty Tiger said:
Those who keep saying Farah has the upper hand need to wake up.

He is now in reggies and will be there for a long time unless we get a new coach & something drastic changes

Money he will always get but on his terms at what value to play out his career in reserves? I would ve very surprised if Farah is thag stubborn to finish his career that way in reality.

This may be true however, we are getting a reputation of a club that treats its very few legends terribly i.e.: Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah. We don't have many that even get close to 250 games and we should have celebrated this better and worked something out after football to get Farah to go overseas.

We are a badly managed club and this would not have happened at any strong club. Boneheaded decisions to get someone as stubborn as Farah to play Reggies to leave was only going to end up like this,

How did the club treat Marshall terribly?

Off memory we reneged on a handshake deal in 2013 and punted half our team to Cronulla.

Sorry MT , but it is Farahs decision whether he goes or not. Not the club and certainly not Taylor. For that sort of money he may very well just say "up you , you can pay me to play reserves for next season"

He still gets the same money, why should he give them anything , Taylor brought this o on Himself.Treat players like this and you will get treated The same way.
Would you let an employer treat you this way?
They picked the wrong bloke to pull this on .Taylor was just too dumb to realise it.
He can now be responsible for us paying top money to a good player, who is needed in first grade.Good work JT
 
If the Tigers are going to pay Robbie they should get something for their money, so it's the reggies next year.
If he leaves then the Tigers pay whatever the other club doesn't, both ways he gets his money.
It's just whether he ways to play reggies or NRL with another club.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@TYGA said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@TYGA said:
This may be true however, we are getting a reputation of a club that treats its very few legends terribly i.e.: Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah. We don't have many that even get close to 250 games and we should have celebrated this better and worked something out after football to get Farah to go overseas.

We are a badly managed club and this would not have happened at any strong club. Boneheaded decisions to get someone as stubborn as Farah to play Reggies to leave was only going to end up like this,

How did the club treat Marshall terribly?

Off memory we reneged on a handshake deal in 2013 and punted half our team to Cronulla.

Sorry MT , but it is Farahs decision whether he goes or not. Not the club and certainly not Taylor. For that sort of money he may very well just say "up you , you can pay me to play reserves for next season"

He still gets the same money, why should he give them anything , Taylor brought this o on Himself.Treat players like this and you will get treated The same way.
Would you let an employer treat you this way?
They picked the wrong bloke to pull this on .Taylor was just too dumb to realise it.
He can now be responsible for us paying top money to a good player, who is needed in first grade.Good work JT

Your missing the point, the club will pay him. That really isn't up for debate. It's now a case of if Robbie wants to finish his career in reserves or not.

Robbie doesn't have alot of leverage anymore if he wants to go out on top rather as a forgotten figure of the game.

Despite what some have said the Tigers moving him to reserves after SOO was a calculated move giving Robbie a taste for the remainder of the season especially of the Tigers make the finals. If he wants to stay the club won't stop him, the ball is all in his court as to how he wants this to end now - as a reggies player or a nrl player (via another club) or to the UK.

Again money isn't the debate now the decision and next steps will decide Farah's true character and how he wants to end his career.
 
@Mighty Tiger said:
Again money isn't the debate now the decision and next steps will decide Farah's true character and how he wants to end his career.

This has nothing to do with his true character. What a load of palava. It's a personal decision based upon what he gets offered. There is no righteous option that proves Robbie is a man of character.
 
@bathursttiger said:
If the Tigers are going to pay Robbie they should get something for their money, so it's the reggies next year.
If he leaves then the Tigers pay whatever the other club doesn't, both ways he gets his money.
It's just whether he ways to play reggies or NRL with another club.

Is pretty simple isn't it. Happens dozens of times every year. They all realise the reality of pro football and move on.
 
@Mighty Tiger said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@TYGA said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
How did the club treat Marshall terribly?

Off memory we reneged on a handshake deal in 2013 and punted half our team to Cronulla.

Sorry MT , but it is Farahs decision whether he goes or not. Not the club and certainly not Taylor. For that sort of money he may very well just say "up you , you can pay me to play reserves for next season"

He still gets the same money, why should he give them anything , Taylor brought this o on Himself.Treat players like this and you will get treated The same way.
Would you let an employer treat you this way?
They picked the wrong bloke to pull this on .Taylor was just too dumb to realise it.
Taylor can now be responsible for us paying top money to a good player,(Farah) who is needed in first grade.Good work JT

Your missing the point, the club will pay him. That really isn't up for debate. It's now a case of if Robbie wants to finish his career in reserves or not.

Robbie doesn't have alot of leverage anymore if he wants to go out on top rather as a forgotten figure of the game.

Despite what some have said the Tigers moving him to reserves after SOO was a calculated move giving Robbie a taste for the remainder of the season especially of the Tigers make the finals. If he wants to stay the club won't stop him, the ball is all in his court as to how he wants this to end now - as a reggies player or a nrl player (via another club) or to the UK.

Again money isn't the debate now the decision and next steps will decide Farah's true character and how he wants to end his career.

I didn't miss the point. I never said they wouldn't pay him, but they dont want to pay him the amount that they contracted him for, they want someone else to pay as big amount as possible.
I never mentioned him not getting paid. Which ever way it goes
But the club can't now him to bend over backwards for them after the way they've handled this
Farah for whatever reason doesn't want to go, so as he's getting to the end of his career, maybe he is prepared to play next season in reserves and make the club pay him ALL of his Contract, as you said, the balls in his court.
He'l still put in his usual effort and may enjoy not having to put up with Taylor as much
 
@gallagher said:
@bathursttiger said:
If the Tigers are going to pay Robbie they should get something for their money, so it's the reggies next year.
If he leaves then the Tigers pay whatever the other club doesn't, both ways he gets his money.
It's just whether he ways to play reggies or NRL with another club.

Is pretty simple isn't it. Happens dozens of times every year. They all realise the reality of pro football and move on.

Some will, maybe now some may be realising that they don't have to if they're determined enough
 
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