Wests Tigers need to settle up with Robbie Farah so the NRL club can settle down

@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

How have the club destroyed his brand, reputation and name?

By dropping him to reserve grade to force his hand so he quits the club. Its a disgrace I want Farah to move on but the way its being done is terrible. if you are okay with it then that's your prerogative i'm not.

I can see why you'd hate what's being done and I agree that it lacks integrity, but I don't think being played in reserve grade damages his brand, reputation or name.
 
@Nelson said:
@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

How have the club destroyed his brand, reputation and name?

By dropping him to reserve grade to force his hand so he quits the club. Its a disgrace I want Farah to move on but the way its being done is terrible. if you are okay with it then that's your prerogative i'm not.

I can see why you'd hate what's being done and I agree that it lacks integrity, but I don't think being played in reserve grade damages his brand, reputation or name.

I think it does we'll agree to disagree. How you finish is part of a players legacy and we don't have players that have been as good for as long as Farah. Its just badly vindictive and will hurt the ability we have to recruit in the future.
 
@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
How have the club destroyed his brand, reputation and name?

By dropping him to reserve grade to force his hand so he quits the club. Its a disgrace I want Farah to move on but the way its being done is terrible. if you are okay with it then that's your prerogative i'm not.

I can see why you'd hate what's being done and I agree that it lacks integrity, but I don't think beplayed in reserve grade damages his brand, reputation or name.

I think it does we'll agree to disagree. How you finish is part of a players legacy and we don't have players that have been as good for as long as Farah. Its just badly vindictive and will hurt the ability we have to recruit in the future.

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@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
@TYGA said:
@Nelson said:
How have the club destroyed his brand, reputation and name?

By dropping him to reserve grade to force his hand so he quits the club. Its a disgrace I want Farah to move on but the way its being done is terrible. if you are okay with it then that's your prerogative i'm not.

I can see why you'd hate what's being done and I agree that it lacks integrity, but I don't think being played in reserve grade damages his brand, reputation or name.

I think it does we'll agree to disagree. How you finish is part of a players legacy and we don't have players that have been as good for as long as Farah. Its just badly vindictive and will hurt the ability we have to recruit in the future.

There's some irony in there for me, about "legacies" . Many WT supporters feel Farah should go out on a high, finishing his career with Tigers in first grade.

But at least the same proportion of NSW supporters thought Farah and Gallen should have been dropped pre Game 3 because they were a big part of a losing culture.

Supporters of Farah feel he is clearly good enough to be in the top 17 at WT, but that is an opinion - not a fact. Same as many were of the opinion that Farah is no longer the best hooker in NSW, even though Blues management disagreed. In fact many comments re SOO centred around Farah being part of a selfish and ultimately losing culture.

But these are all just opinions, it's the coaches job to coach and player brands or reputations, in my opinion, don't matter.

Because if Farah really is our best option, then by rights we will lose more games without him, the coach's record will diminish and the coach will ultimately lose his job.

In other words, if JT is really wrong about this, we won't have to wait long to find out and his number will be up. Pretty big call to risk your job by demoting a good player, just to spite him for salary cap.

Some would say JT is on thin ice anyway and this is his last big play, but personally I don't buy that, I would think he'd keep Farah if it was going to result in more wins. JT might not even see out his contract for the duration Farah is still contracted anyway.

My other opinion is that for too long players have ruled the roost at WT and not been held accountable enough for the poor results. Same teams getting picked every week.

Some coaches finally have the balls to drop high profile players (Potter w Benji, JT w Farah), and the media get a bit of a frenzy, in turn amplified by some fans.

I'm sad that Farah's career seems to be ending on a sour note, but frankly I am desperate for more wins, and if dropping Farah makes that happen, so be it. We could hardly be a less successful team then we have been during his career.
 
It all feels like Benji all over again….........career ending with us badly.

I think Robbie is so desperate to be just a 1 team player that he'll dig his heels in further and will do so to his own detriment.
 
@Tigerdave said:
It all feels like Benji all over again….........career ending with us badly.

I think Robbie is so desperate to be just a 1 team player that he'll dig his heels in further and will do so to his own detriment.

You mite be right and so be it and if he plays reserves for 950K so be it so many people would love 950K to play reserves..

But I defend the right of the coach to pick the team and if the board and CEO don't think the coach is doing a good job sack him

But to have all this childish B/S about Robbie doing so much for the club is B/S all the players do and Robbie has been one of the best payed players at the club I think people forget that he gets so much money for it when he shopped him self to the gold coast he did that for money he also did the same at Parramatta and he could have gone

What about players who work as hard and get so much less
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The club has to have structure from top to bottom other wise the club will be like Penrith a few years ago just before they got rid of Lewis and Jennings
 
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%
 
@Harvey said:
@foreveratiger said:
Then again why would you even consider doing such a thing after such events ?

Because as Robbie keeps telling us, he loves this club. Bleeds black an gold. Would do anything for the club.

He could announce that he wants to retire at the end of this year. Forgo (supposedly) the last year of his contract and then take on some form of non playing role at the club that he could be paid for. He wants his 950k next year with the option of then signing in super league or elsewhere.

I doubt that Robbie would love the "Club" quite as much by now, and I don't blame him for digging his heels in and sticking it up them. Nothing would change with the players as they would know that the same thing would be tried on them if the club changed their minds, the clubs problem is that you should never get into a fight unless you are sure that you can win.hes already said ( again last Saturday) that he's going nowhere. So thhe club is restricted as to what they can do.
The likelihood of them being able to Breach him isn't high, other they would've certainly done that already. The more they try to bang him over the head, the more they damage their own reputation. ( even those in the public, even people in the game, that have agreed that the club has the right to dump him, agree that it's been handled terribly by the club)
Just how many players would be sitting back and mentally crossing this club off their list of possibility?
We had a bad enough reputation as a basket case before this latest debacle, it's in tatters completely now.
 
@Tigerdave said:
It all feels like Benji all over again….........career ending with us badly.

I think Robbie is so desperate to be just a 1 team player that he'll dig his heels in further and will do so to his own detriment.

That says a lot about the clubs inability to manage itself.
 
@helmesy said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%

Well written.
 
@Harvey said:
@foreveratiger said:
Then again why would you even consider doing such a thing after such events ?

Because as Robbie keeps telling us, he loves this club. Bleeds black an gold. Would do anything for the club.

He could announce that he wants to retire at the end of this year. Forgo (supposedly) the last year of his contract and then take on some form of non playing role at the club that he could be paid for. He wants his 950k next year with the option of then signing in super league or elsewhere.

This is crazy. He loves the club and wants to play here.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@helmesy said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%

Well written.

What a load of rubbish …Farah has destroyed his reputation himself ...news flash no other club wants him that is why he is still at the club that told him his services were no longer required over a year ago and yes all these clubs do know brand Farah .The sad part about all of this is every one else knows what's needs to be done except the person it is affecting .
This club owes him nothing !
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@helmesy said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%

Well written.

Exactly. The club is showing a complete lack of integrity.

Interestingly some of the comments from some fans show that they also lack class and character. There are some "fans" who have made up a whole bunch of negative stories around Robbie to justify their hatred for a club great.

I'm not as big a fan as I should be of Robbie because he has had a tendency to hog it at the wrong time. I judge him though based on his on-field performances. I don't though take that well past the the line of rationality and pretend that I know the inner workings of the club, media outlets and inside Robbie's head which all point to him being the devil. Of course this is complete and utter palava but some "fans" actually state that to justify their raging hatred.
 
@stevetiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@helmesy said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%

Well written.

Exactly. The club is showing a complete lack of integrity.

Interestingly some of the comments from some fans show that they also lack class and character. There are some "fans" who have made up a whole bunch of negative stories around Robbie to justify their hatred for a club great.

I'm not as big a fan as I should be of Robbie because he has had a tendency to hog it at the wrong time. I judge him though based on his on-field performances. I don't though take that well past the the line of rationality and pretend that I know the inner workings of the club, media outlets and inside Robbie's head which all point to him being the devil. Of course this is complete and utter palava but some "fans" actually state that to justify their raging hatred.

I agree 100% with you on this call - that is why a year ago I was wondering whether there were ulterior motivations driving the venom. All the melodramatic stuff about him has been completely overblown and over done, I give him some slack about these because of his mother's passing I would only single him out for punishment when I see the rest of the team as effective as himself but that could be salary cap headaches and coaching methods causing those deficiencies.
 
I really do not see the issue, what ever happens Farah gets his money. He is holding a valid contract.

The coach picks the side,so he has the right to pick who he wants. We might all disagree with his selections,but as coach he has the right to pick the team.

Farah has two options for 2017, stay and play in the team he is selected or find a new club,either way he will get at least the amount on his current contract.

My own view is he should be playing in the top grade, but I am not the coach and I only have places like this forum to get my inside goss,in other words I have no idea what really has and is going on behind the scenes
 
Well written supercoach, you are one of the few who look at this rationally and objectively.
 
@supercoach said:
I really do not see the issue, what ever happens Farah gets his money. He is holding a valid contract.

The coach picks the side,so he has the right to pick who he wants. We might all disagree with his selections,but as coach he has the right to pick the team.

Farah has two options for 2017, stay and play in the team he is selected or find a new club,either way he will get at least the amount on his current contract.

My own view is he should be playing in the top grade, but I am not the coach and I only have places like this forum to get my inside goss,in other words I have no idea what really has and is going on behind the scenes

Great post.
 
@Snake said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@helmesy said:
@TYGA said:
Destroying a players brand, reputation and name in order to manage a salary cap shows the lack of integrity within our leadership/management team. Questioning Farahs love for the club after 247 games and a premiership when he could have left many times for bigger dollars is a joke.

Pay the man and lets move on.

Agree 100%

Well written.

What a load of rubbish …Farah has destroyed his reputation himself ...news flash no other club wants him that is why he is still at the club that told him his services were no longer required over a year ago and yes all these clubs do know brand Farah .The sad part about all of this is every one else knows what's needs to be done except the person it is affecting .
This club owes him nothing !

Big on the loyalty thing I see.
 
Did we all forget who took this to the media in the first place?

The media crapstorm that ensued was only the doing of Farah and/or his management. Wests wanted to keep it in house.
 

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